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coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 11:48:29
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1661
On September 07 2011 20:47 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


If Losira wins and Jjakji wins, isn't this a 3 way tie?

Edit:

You are right, then it is a three way tie with Losira, Check and Jjakji.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1662
so check need to beat Losi, and Mc needs to beat jkaki to three way and head to head will put them in a round robin again? as all beat each other?
Live and Let Die!
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1663
GO GO GO CHECK! Please beat losira.
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1664
On September 07 2011 20:45 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:43 Asha` wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match.

Why isn't anyone saying this?
It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix..


what the...

So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden?

Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah.


What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?


Well for one he had absolutely 0 cannon coverage anywhere near his nat as a result of it so he had to run all his probes to his walls and his nexus were basically free kills. Compounded by the fact that everyone knows MC always goes Stargate and that deals terrible with lings in your base and Check really had completely free reign.


Seriously, he was only gonna have 1 cannon up when the nydus came up regardless of where it was. Check would've just ran all his lings up the ramp to kill the main nexus first instead, which would also have resulted in a win for him.


well you should scout for a third and if you don't see it you should have 2-3 cannons
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Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1665
Cmon check win for MC
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1666
So if Losira wins, MC has to throw his last game in order to have a chance at Code S? Someone didn't quite think this format through.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1667
On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match.

Why isn't anyone saying this?
It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix..


what the...

So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden?

Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah.


What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?

hahaha lol.
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flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1668
On September 07 2011 20:45 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:45 flodeskum wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:43 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match.

Why isn't anyone saying this?
It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix..


what the...

So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden?

Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah.


What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?

Not as much. But it has everything to do with riskiness. You have that forge and cannons next to your base, and you have 1 sentry. That Nydus play will never work.

That must be one hell of a sentry.

You hold long enough for 1-2 more sentries (MC had 2 out at that point in the game, if he had done the standard FFE, he would have held), and then your cannons and Voids will do the rest.

Well, a sentry and a cannon will never hold that amount of lings. They'd just die. And even if they did he'd lose his main, a ton of probes and a lot of mining time.

He was dead as soon as the nydus got up.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1669
if Check loses I hope MC just throws the game (or is 111'd)
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1670
On September 07 2011 20:43 Drygioni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:41 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 dmnum wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:32 rareh wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:29 pAzand wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:28 MrCon wrote:
If losira wins he's 3-1 and jjakji can be 3-1 too and he beat Losira, so jjakji will qualify.


No. Check beat jjaki, Losira beat Check and jjaki beat Losira. 3 way tie


check didn't lose a game, so there is no 3 way tie.

he said if losira wins, and the last losira's game is versus check


But Check has defeated both losira and jjakji so he goes through and then the tie is between losira and jjakji. losira beat jjakji so hes through.

Therefore if all are 3-1 losira and check will advance


Is this correct? I'm a little confused about whether it's a 3 way tie or this atm.

jjakji beat losira
lets say losira beats check
and check beat jjakji

three way tie :p
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1671
On September 07 2011 20:47 Probe1 wrote:
(Z)Check
vs
(Z)LosirA
on
Daybreak

2:00
hatch first for both players
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CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1672
On September 07 2011 20:46 coko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


Just to keep this in the chat so you all can see what happens.

Actually, if both Losira and Jjakji win, it is a different 3-way tie, but with Check instead of MC.
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1673
On September 07 2011 20:47 coko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:47 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


If Losira wins and Jjakji wins, isn't this a 3 way tie?


No, Jjakji beat Losira.

Yes, Check 3-1 Losira 3-1 jjakji 3-1
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1674
On September 07 2011 20:47 coko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:47 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


If Losira wins and Jjakji wins, isn't this a 3 way tie?


No, Jjakji beat Losira.


It will be a 3 way tie. Check Jjakji Losira 3-1. Check > Jjakji > Losira > Check
d6Mesh
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands445 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1675
On September 07 2011 20:44 Mike15xp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:41 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:40 Gary Oak wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 chocopaw wrote:
Just checked liquipedia. GSL October already has 17 terrans... I want to puke.

More like Code T.

well code A looks better...


smh next season is going to be rough code S is going to have lots of TvT code A is going to have to be watched muted (as always) ... entertainment value

Tastosis casting TvT's for 5 hours every code S day? Yes please!
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1676
Could someone please explain to me where the term "Holy Check!" came from?
Over night everybody started using it.
A forum search pointed that its first usage came some time in May 2011.
moo...for DRG
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1677
On September 07 2011 20:46 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:45 hewley wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match.

Why isn't anyone saying this?
It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix..


what the...

So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden?

Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah.


What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?


This specific building placement guaranteed an easy 3rd, thats why it was greedy as fuck. Imagine if he built his wall and his natural. MC could have protected his cannons with probes and sentries.


This is false.


So why, care to explain?
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1678
I believe there is no way Losira can make it without playing a 3-way tie.

If he wins, is very unlikely MC will win with no motivation = 3-way tie
If he loses, then needs MC to win to a 3-way tie, otherwise he is out.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Drygioni
Profile Joined February 2011
Japan379 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1679
On September 07 2011 20:46 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:45 hewley wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match.

Why isn't anyone saying this?
It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix..


what the...

So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden?

Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah.


What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?


This specific building placement guaranteed an easy 3rd, thats why it was greedy as fuck. Imagine if he built his wall and his natural. MC could have protected his cannons with probes and sentries.


This is false.


Well you could explain why atleast. From what I understand if he had built his wall at his nat he could have FF'd the lings off and held.
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1680
On September 07 2011 20:48 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:47 coko wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:47 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


If Losira wins and Jjakji wins, isn't this a 3 way tie?


No, Jjakji beat Losira.


It will be a 3 way tie. Check Jjakji Losira 3-1. Check > Jjakji > Losira > Check


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