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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1681
...Ok this is officially the second time I've ever muted the stream because I couldn't take the casters anymore.

User was temp banned for this post.
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cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
September 07 2011 11:48 GMT
#1682
On September 07 2011 20:47 coko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:47 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


If Losira wins and Jjakji wins, isn't this a 3 way tie?


No, Jjakji beat Losira.


You're forgetting that in that scenario Check > Jjakji > Losira > Check. So it would be a three way time for first and they would have to play off.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
ShiFTy_
Profile Joined July 2011
30 Posts
September 07 2011 11:49 GMT
#1683
On September 07 2011 20:47 coko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:47 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


If Losira wins and Jjakji wins, isn't this a 3 way tie?

Edit:

You are right, then it is a three way tie with Losira, Check and Jjakji.


Check > Jjakji > Losira > Check
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 11:49:13
September 07 2011 11:49 GMT
#1684
On September 07 2011 20:48 d6Mesh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:44 Mike15xp wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:40 Gary Oak wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 chocopaw wrote:
Just checked liquipedia. GSL October already has 17 terrans... I want to puke.

More like Code T.

well code A looks better...


smh next season is going to be rough code S is going to have lots of TvT code A is going to have to be watched muted (as always) ... entertainment value

Tastosis casting TvT's for 5 hours every code S day? Yes please!

i agree, TvT is awesome :D
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
September 07 2011 11:49 GMT
#1685
On September 07 2011 20:45 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:45 flodeskum wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:43 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match.

Why isn't anyone saying this?
It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix..


what the...

So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden?

Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah.


What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?

Not as much. But it has everything to do with riskiness. You have that forge and cannons next to your base, and you have 1 sentry. That Nydus play will never work.

That must be one hell of a sentry.

You hold long enough for 1-2 more sentries (MC had 2 out at that point in the game, if he had done the standard FFE, he would have held), and then your cannons and Voids will do the rest.


Except 2 forcefields is not even enough to hold for 1 more sentry. And do you really think 1 voidray will cleanup an endless stream of lings before kill a nexus or 2?
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
September 07 2011 11:49 GMT
#1686
cmon check... don't let there only be 5 protoss in code S... hope MC and JYP make it...
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
September 07 2011 11:49 GMT
#1687
On September 07 2011 20:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Could someone please explain to me where the term "Holy Check!" came from?
Over night everybody started using it.
A forum search pointed that its first usage came some time in May 2011.


CellaWerra. Someone sent him a huge donation while streaming in which he said HOLY CHECK. That's where it came from.
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 11:50:10
September 07 2011 11:49 GMT
#1688
This is really funny. PART THREE!

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.

Yes, people I've updated!
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
September 07 2011 11:49 GMT
#1689
On September 07 2011 20:47 coko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:47 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


If Losira wins and Jjakji wins, isn't this a 3 way tie?


No, Jjakji beat Losira.

But Jjakji lose to check, check lose to losira. They are all 3-1.
ThePieRate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States263 Posts
September 07 2011 11:49 GMT
#1690
On September 07 2011 20:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Could someone please explain to me where the term "Holy Check!" came from?
Over night everybody started using it.
A forum search pointed that its first usage came some time in May 2011.


It is Cella's catch phrase.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
September 07 2011 11:49 GMT
#1691
Why do they keep using the same joke over and over and over?
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#1692
ZvZ on daybreak?

I can only presume this will go to an epic Hive tech clash.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
September 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#1693
On September 07 2011 20:49 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:45 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:45 flodeskum wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:43 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match.

Why isn't anyone saying this?
It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix..


what the...

So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden?

Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah.


What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?

Not as much. But it has everything to do with riskiness. You have that forge and cannons next to your base, and you have 1 sentry. That Nydus play will never work.

That must be one hell of a sentry.

You hold long enough for 1-2 more sentries (MC had 2 out at that point in the game, if he had done the standard FFE, he would have held), and then your cannons and Voids will do the rest.


Except 2 forcefields is not even enough to hold for 1 more sentry. And do you really think 1 voidray will cleanup an endless stream of lings before kill a nexus or 2?

Cannons, pylons, zealots... the point is he was in a more defendable position. Use your imagination.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
September 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#1694
On September 07 2011 20:48 hewley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:46 JKira wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:45 hewley wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match.

Why isn't anyone saying this?
It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix..


what the...

So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden?

Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah.


What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?


This specific building placement guaranteed an easy 3rd, thats why it was greedy as fuck. Imagine if he built his wall and his natural. MC could have protected his cannons with probes and sentries.


This is false.


So why, care to explain?


No matter your building placement you die the moment the nydus pops, because 1 sentry and 2-3 cannons won't kill that many lings before they run into the main and kill that off. The way to defend it is to just keep the nydus from popping up.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
September 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#1695
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


The two bolded scenarios are incorrect. It will be a 3-way tie. Jjakji beat LosirA, who (in the bolded situation) beat Check, who beat Jjakji. All of them beat Kyrix and MC in this scenario.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#1696
all i gotta say...thank god we didn't have liquibet today
Ryuuka
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden87 Posts
September 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#1697
come on, check!! WIN!!!!!!!! :D
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
September 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#1698
On September 07 2011 20:49 Corrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Could someone please explain to me where the term "Holy Check!" came from?
Over night everybody started using it.
A forum search pointed that its first usage came some time in May 2011.


CellaWerra. Someone sent him a huge donation while streaming in which he said HOLY CHECK. That's where it came from.


aka Slayers_Cella
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
September 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#1699
my face is melting due to people not understanding who can still go through and who can't and what a 3 way tie is, even though 5 different people spell it out competently, this is even worse than the usual balance whine

btw: if jiakji makes it through and taeja/mkp win tomorrow, we get 20 terrans in code s
bisu
Mike15xp
Profile Joined December 2010
United States595 Posts
September 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#1700
On September 07 2011 20:46 Sc2Null wrote:
this has too be the most volatile format i've ever seen lol..


seriously ... why did they change it ... bo1 is never the way to go when trying to determine the better players ... mc might not have made it either way since he's slumping a bit but check? i know hes gotten better but seriously?
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