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Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
September 07 2011 11:45 GMT
#1641
So many people are posting misinformation about what will happen if certain people win.
No relation to Monsieur J.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
September 07 2011 11:45 GMT
#1642
On September 07 2011 20:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I don't like the up/down format either. I can understand round robin in group stages to advance in the tournament, but for something that's essentially prelims to be this volatile? It's good entertainment value, but for something like staying in code S/making it into code S it shouldn't be like that.

I understand how there is some volatility, but it is similar to a normal group stage in that regard. A round robin is a pretty damn good way of pulling the best players out of a group. If there's some awesome theories I didn't consider, let me know.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 11:46:22
September 07 2011 11:45 GMT
#1643
On September 07 2011 20:45 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:43 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match.

Why isn't anyone saying this?
It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix..


what the...

So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden?

Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah.


What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?

Not as much. But it has everything to do with riskiness. You have that forge and cannons next to your base, and you have 1 sentry. That Nydus play will never work.

That must be one hell of a sentry.

You hold long enough for 1-2 more sentries (MC had 2 out at that point in the game, if he had done the standard FFE, he would have held), and then your cannons and Voids will do the rest.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 07 2011 11:45 GMT
#1644
On September 07 2011 20:44 Mike15xp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:41 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:40 Gary Oak wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 chocopaw wrote:
Just checked liquipedia. GSL October already has 17 terrans... I want to puke.

More like Code T.

well code A looks better...


smh next season is going to be rough code S is going to have lots of TvT code A is going to have to be watched muted (as always) ... entertainment value


I must be biased (I play T) but of all mirrors, TvT is by far the most entertaining (Byun vs Supernova?)
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
beute
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany197 Posts
September 07 2011 11:45 GMT
#1645
On September 07 2011 20:40 GhostFall wrote:
what incentive does check have for actually to try in this game. He's guaranteed Code S

if losira wins against check and Jjakji wins against MC, then they are tied 3:1 and have to play out who is the unlucky guy to drop out of the top two and thus not getting code S.

Is it that hard to actually put 1 and 1 together?
GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
September 07 2011 11:46 GMT
#1646
On September 07 2011 20:43 Drygioni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:41 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 dmnum wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:32 rareh wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:29 pAzand wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:28 MrCon wrote:
If losira wins he's 3-1 and jjakji can be 3-1 too and he beat Losira, so jjakji will qualify.


No. Check beat jjaki, Losira beat Check and jjaki beat Losira. 3 way tie


check didn't lose a game, so there is no 3 way tie.

he said if losira wins, and the last losira's game is versus check


But Check has defeated both losira and jjakji so he goes through and then the tie is between losira and jjakji. losira beat jjakji so hes through.

Therefore if all are 3-1 losira and check will advance


Is this correct? I'm a little confused about whether it's a 3 way tie or this atm.


No its not

Sorry I confused myself
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 07 2011 11:46 GMT
#1647
I like SC2 a lot but, all this TvT is getting stale. I hope something amazing happens and the race has a one third presence in GSL as it should be.
twitch.tv/medrea
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
September 07 2011 11:46 GMT
#1648
okay let check win now plz
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
September 07 2011 11:46 GMT
#1649
On September 07 2011 20:44 Mike15xp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:41 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:40 Gary Oak wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 chocopaw wrote:
Just checked liquipedia. GSL October already has 17 terrans... I want to puke.

More like Code T.

well code A looks better...


smh next season is going to be rough code S is going to have lots of TvT code A is going to have to be watched muted (as always) ... entertainment value

wolf doa is quite good IMO... i don't really dislike moletrap... i just mute after the game as their after game commentary is not tastosis standard
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 07 2011 11:46 GMT
#1650
this has too be the most volatile format i've ever seen lol..
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
September 07 2011 11:46 GMT
#1651
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


Just to keep this in the chat so you all can see what happens.
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 07 2011 11:46 GMT
#1652
On September 07 2011 20:45 beute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:40 GhostFall wrote:
what incentive does check have for actually to try in this game. He's guaranteed Code S

if losira wins against check and Jjakji wins against MC, then they are tied 3:1 and have to play out who is the unlucky guy to drop out of the top two and thus not getting code S.

Is it that hard to actually put 1 and 1 together?


dude the numbers here go all the way up to 4
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
September 07 2011 11:46 GMT
#1653
On September 07 2011 20:45 hewley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match.

Why isn't anyone saying this?
It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix..


what the...

So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden?

Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah.


What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?


This specific building placement guaranteed an easy 3rd, thats why it was greedy as fuck. Imagine if he built his wall and his natural. MC could have protected his cannons with probes and sentries.


This is false.
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
September 07 2011 11:46 GMT
#1654
On September 07 2011 20:46 Sc2Null wrote:
this has too be the most volatile format i've ever seen lol..

its hard to go up and easy to go down...
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 11:47:23
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1655
On September 07 2011 20:45 coko wrote:
This is really funny.

Losira is kind of fucked here...

If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.

MC.

If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.

Jjakji.

If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.


If Losira wins and Jjakji wins, isn't this a 3 way tie for 2 spots in code S?
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1656
this all comes down to losira winning
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1657
(Z)Check
vs
(Z)LosirA
on
Daybreak
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1658
On September 07 2011 20:45 xN.07)MaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:44 Mike15xp wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:41 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:40 Gary Oak wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:39 chocopaw wrote:
Just checked liquipedia. GSL October already has 17 terrans... I want to puke.

More like Code T.

well code A looks better...


smh next season is going to be rough code S is going to have lots of TvT code A is going to have to be watched muted (as always) ... entertainment value


I must be biased (I play T) but of all mirrors, TvT is by far the most entertaining (Byun vs Supernova?)


Watching sky terrans mass units for 20 realtime minutes every game only goes so far.
twitch.tv/medrea
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1659
FOR THE RECORD

Check 3-0
Losira 2-1
JJaki 2-1
MC 1-2

Kyrix Doesn't Matter



If Check wins against Losira
Check 4-0
Losira 2-2
Jjaki 2-1
MC 1-2

Then if MC beats Jjaki... 3 way tie 2--2 for 2nd.
If Jjaki wins... JJaki and Check advances.

If Losira wins against Check
Losira3-1
Check 3-1
JJaki 2-1
MC 1-2

MC would be eliminated if Losira wins... so he may not try... but JJaki would have to win to force a 3 way tie for 1st with no one guaranteed a spot.

IF MC Wins Losira and Check.
If Jjaki wins 3 way tie for top 2 spots.
Phats
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia534 Posts
September 07 2011 11:47 GMT
#1660
cmon Losira Nestea student!
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