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On September 06 2011 18:30 itsjuspeter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 18:29 Qikz wrote:On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote: See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die.. How is this guy good? I'm baffled... If you cancel Nexus you lose. I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it? 4 zealots melt, I don't know the actual number but having the nexus up for x amount of time profits you more than 400 minerals.
Depends how many probes you are able to get out earlier to transfer to your expansion. I think it is around 1 minute in-game to pay for itself. I'm sure someone else has a better number though.
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On September 06 2011 18:32 Jinsho wrote: Another two pages of whining, cut it out damn it, this is LR not balance discussion.
People whine instead of finding solutions and trying stuff instead of just listening to what others say. Explains a lot :D
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On September 06 2011 18:28 Q8_Devil wrote:Show nested quote + Are you another one of those people who don't understand you need the income of 2 bases to stop a 1 base terran? get educated please.
lol, except he didn't even get any income from that second base and the only thing it did is losing 400 minerals and delaying coloss.
Alicia still did the correct thing, your point is?
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leenock coinflip going roach bust. if byun doesn't build a bunker and a tank he may get a free win
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On September 06 2011 18:31 PikaXchU wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 18:30 itsjuspeter wrote:On September 06 2011 18:29 Qikz wrote:On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote: See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die.. How is this guy good? I'm baffled... If you cancel Nexus you lose. I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it? 4 zealots melt, I don't know the actual number but having the nexus up for x amount of time profits you more than 400 minerals. Then how do you expect to hold your expansion against someone out to just fking kill you with everything he has? And with lesser units? Point is not to hold the expo but to get enough money from it to pay for itself and for some units until it dies. Also terran killing expo nexus delays his attack on your main.
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is leenock going july style?
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6:45 Byun going BFH with reactor fac. Leenock making roaches 2base v 2base
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To those whining and those whining about whining:
Leenock vs Byun. Roach pressuring byun's natural
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I'm going to laugh a lot if another terran does 1 base vs Alicia. PvT is totally ruined in GSL. I'm not saying it's imba, it's just depressing/brutal/you name it.
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Gogo leenock, could be a perfect timing
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On September 06 2011 18:31 PikaXchU wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 18:30 itsjuspeter wrote:On September 06 2011 18:29 Qikz wrote:On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote: See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die.. How is this guy good? I'm baffled... If you cancel Nexus you lose. I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it? 4 zealots melt, I don't know the actual number but having the nexus up for x amount of time profits you more than 400 minerals. Then how do you expect to hold your expansion against someone out to just fking kill you with everything he has? And with lesser units?
Delay the push like Alicia tried to do. And make more units a bit later thanks to the natural income.
When 4gate was viable in PvT 1 base vs 1 base was not insta-lose for protoss, but with mass marines + siege tanks you can't hope to win with 1 base at all.
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Leenock pulling a july this warms my heart
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If you don't want to see 1 Baseplay then don't play stupid Maps like Dualsight . You know where stuff like that happens ? On small Maps , don't freaking play them.
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My bets on the Leenocktopus. I don't mind who wins this game though.
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On September 06 2011 18:33 PikaXchU wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 18:32 Jinsho wrote: Another two pages of whining, cut it out damn it, this is LR not balance discussion. People whine instead of finding solutions and trying stuff instead of just listening to what others say. Explains a lot :D
Ironic posts. Well I guess it's good for Gom that someone finds terran entertaining and the matchups still legitimate.
BFH hellions tho leenock has some roachies out. Early ling roach poke at the FE. Roach contain until seige mode finishes.
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On September 06 2011 18:31 PikaXchU wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 18:30 itsjuspeter wrote:On September 06 2011 18:29 Qikz wrote:On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote: See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die.. How is this guy good? I'm baffled... If you cancel Nexus you lose. I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it? 4 zealots melt, I don't know the actual number but having the nexus up for x amount of time profits you more than 400 minerals. Then how do you expect to hold your expansion against someone out to just fking kill you with everything he has? And with lesser units?
Expanding gets you more units generally.
Remember this is the 9 minute or more mark we are talking about here.
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6 roaches a small investment?
Zerg doesn't make free money :X
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On September 06 2011 18:34 FuzzyJAM wrote: 6:45 Byun going BFH with reactor fac. Leenock making roaches 2base v 2base 9:10 Leenock pushes with roaches and lings, forces CC lift and contains Byun. Takes out a tank before losing the force and is getting Lair.
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sacrificing 6 roaches and giving up contain for 1 siege tank = small investment doa says
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On September 06 2011 18:31 PikaXchU wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 18:30 itsjuspeter wrote:On September 06 2011 18:29 Qikz wrote:On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote: See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die.. How is this guy good? I'm baffled... If you cancel Nexus you lose. I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it? 4 zealots melt, I don't know the actual number but having the nexus up for x amount of time profits you more than 400 minerals. Then how do you expect to hold your expansion against someone out to just fking kill you with everything he has? And with lesser units?
Thing is if you cancel the nexus, the terran will just go for a contain, expand and kill you 10 minutes later. That said, Alicia played poorly and probably would have lost against a macro build as well, but 1-1-1 continues to be a problem. Not so much balance-wise, but for us spectators. To me at least.
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