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Please keep the following things out of this topic:

-Caster/Stream/player bashing;
-Imbalance/race whine;
-Preemptive GGing;
-any other assorted offtopic negativism and arguments.

This topic for talk about the games, not your general dislike for a certain matchup or SC2 in general. Enjoy this free event that has been provided to you. Share your enthusiasm for the games!

Feel free to shoot me a PM or query me on IRC for any questions or comments. Have fun! ~Nyovne
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 06 2011 09:32 GMT
#281
On September 06 2011 18:30 itsjuspeter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:29 Qikz wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it?


4 zealots melt, I don't know the actual number but having the nexus up for x amount of time profits you more than 400 minerals.


Depends how many probes you are able to get out earlier to transfer to your expansion. I think it is around 1 minute in-game to pay for itself. I'm sure someone else has a better number though.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
PikaXchU
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore379 Posts
September 06 2011 09:33 GMT
#282
On September 06 2011 18:32 Jinsho wrote:
Another two pages of whining, cut it out damn it, this is LR not balance discussion.


People whine instead of finding solutions and trying stuff instead of just listening to what others say. Explains a lot :D
Carrier has arrived.
itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
September 06 2011 09:33 GMT
#283
On September 06 2011 18:28 Q8_Devil wrote:
Show nested quote +

Are you another one of those people who don't understand you need the income of 2 bases to stop a 1 base terran? get educated please.

lol, except he didn't even get any income from that second base and the only thing it did is losing 400 minerals and delaying coloss.


Alicia still did the correct thing, your point is?
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
September 06 2011 09:34 GMT
#284
leenock coinflip going roach bust. if byun doesn't build a bunker and a tank he may get a free win
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
September 06 2011 09:34 GMT
#285
On September 06 2011 18:31 PikaXchU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:30 itsjuspeter wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:29 Qikz wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it?


4 zealots melt, I don't know the actual number but having the nexus up for x amount of time profits you more than 400 minerals.


Then how do you expect to hold your expansion against someone out to just fking kill you with everything he has? And with lesser units?

Point is not to hold the expo but to get enough money from it to pay for itself and for some units until it dies. Also terran killing expo nexus delays his attack on your main.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 06 2011 09:34 GMT
#286
is leenock going july style?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 06 2011 09:34 GMT
#287
6:45
Byun going BFH with reactor fac.
Leenock making roaches
2base v 2base
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
September 06 2011 09:34 GMT
#288
To those whining and those whining about whining:

Leenock vs Byun. Roach pressuring byun's natural
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
September 06 2011 09:34 GMT
#289
I'm going to laugh a lot if another terran does 1 base vs Alicia.
PvT is totally ruined in GSL. I'm not saying it's imba, it's just depressing/brutal/you name it.
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
September 06 2011 09:34 GMT
#290
Gogo leenock, could be a perfect timing
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
September 06 2011 09:34 GMT
#291
On September 06 2011 18:31 PikaXchU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:30 itsjuspeter wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:29 Qikz wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it?


4 zealots melt, I don't know the actual number but having the nexus up for x amount of time profits you more than 400 minerals.


Then how do you expect to hold your expansion against someone out to just fking kill you with everything he has? And with lesser units?


Delay the push like Alicia tried to do. And make more units a bit later thanks to the natural income.

When 4gate was viable in PvT 1 base vs 1 base was not insta-lose for protoss, but with mass marines + siege tanks you can't hope to win with 1 base at all.
Revolutionist fan
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 06 2011 09:35 GMT
#292
Leenock pulling a july this warms my heart
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s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
September 06 2011 09:35 GMT
#293
If you don't want to see 1 Baseplay then don't play stupid Maps like Dualsight . You know where stuff like that happens ? On small Maps , don't freaking play them.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12047 Posts
September 06 2011 09:35 GMT
#294
My bets on the Leenocktopus. I don't mind who wins this game though.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11091 Posts
September 06 2011 09:35 GMT
#295
On September 06 2011 18:33 PikaXchU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:32 Jinsho wrote:
Another two pages of whining, cut it out damn it, this is LR not balance discussion.


People whine instead of finding solutions and trying stuff instead of just listening to what others say. Explains a lot :D


Ironic posts. Well I guess it's good for Gom that someone finds terran entertaining and the matchups still legitimate.

BFH hellions tho leenock has some roachies out. Early ling roach poke at the FE. Roach contain until seige mode finishes.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 06 2011 09:35 GMT
#296
On September 06 2011 18:31 PikaXchU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:30 itsjuspeter wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:29 Qikz wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it?


4 zealots melt, I don't know the actual number but having the nexus up for x amount of time profits you more than 400 minerals.


Then how do you expect to hold your expansion against someone out to just fking kill you with everything he has? And with lesser units?


Expanding gets you more units generally.

Remember this is the 9 minute or more mark we are talking about here.
twitch.tv/medrea
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
September 06 2011 09:36 GMT
#297
6 roaches a small investment?

Zerg doesn't make free money :X
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 06 2011 09:36 GMT
#298
On September 06 2011 18:34 FuzzyJAM wrote:
6:45
Byun going BFH with reactor fac.
Leenock making roaches
2base v 2base

9:10
Leenock pushes with roaches and lings, forces CC lift and contains Byun. Takes out a tank before losing the force and is getting Lair.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
September 06 2011 09:36 GMT
#299
sacrificing 6 roaches and giving up contain for 1 siege tank = small investment doa says
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
September 06 2011 09:36 GMT
#300
On September 06 2011 18:31 PikaXchU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:30 itsjuspeter wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:29 Qikz wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it?


4 zealots melt, I don't know the actual number but having the nexus up for x amount of time profits you more than 400 minerals.


Then how do you expect to hold your expansion against someone out to just fking kill you with everything he has? And with lesser units?


Thing is if you cancel the nexus, the terran will just go for a contain, expand and kill you 10 minutes later.
That said, Alicia played poorly and probably would have lost against a macro build as well, but 1-1-1 continues to be a problem. Not so much balance-wise, but for us spectators. To me at least.
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