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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
Terran wins again. Bunker and both tanks survive. I think a few ancillary marines are about too. Major notabl mistake. Failure ot pop gateways down immediately after he lost them. Probably cost him 2-4 zealots he could have had. Would he have broken out against that positioning? Dunno. Without an airunit. Sentries should have been able to hold the ramp and more units could have been macroed out. Still didn't look particularally hard to execute. | ||
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PikaXchU
Singapore379 Posts
On September 06 2011 18:25 Barkziee wrote: Need the economic advantage to stand a chance. Need to delay the attack to stand a chance. How are you in a position to be judging it in such a biased manner? I'm baffled... Delay the attack? From so far away? It's not like the sentries were already there, and he takes the risk to send units from so far and HOPES your opponent doesn't move out? Why use the HOPE strategy? A ranged colossus is probably what he needs and more units. That observer isn't an illusion. | ||
Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On September 06 2011 18:27 itsjuspeter wrote: Are you another one of those people who don't understand you need the income of 2 bases to stop a 1 base terran? get educated please. Wat? Please refer to various threads on TL which pretty much prove you need to fast expand in order to get more units out in TvP to hold 1-1-1. Unless your saying less units is better than more units? | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
On September 06 2011 18:28 Oboeman wrote: I have a question. all this talk of talk needing an expansion to have enough income to power enough gateways to hold this off... does protoss need to be up a base against terran too? lol no, but you have to hold the terran outside your natural or he'll turtle up outside your base until your starved out | ||
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Q8_Devil
United Kingdom63 Posts
Are you another one of those people who don't understand you need the income of 2 bases to stop a 1 base terran? get educated please. lol, except he didn't even get any income from that second base and the only thing it did is losing 400 minerals and delaying coloss. | ||
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bbQ4Aiur
Hong Kong2752 Posts
 shouldnt have moved out, if he went for 1 base collosi or maybe tried to hold the natural while teching to collosi, he might be okay | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
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ThePieRate
United States263 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On September 06 2011 18:28 Oboeman wrote: I have a question. all this talk of talk needing an expansion to have enough income to power enough gateways to hold this off... does protoss need to be up a base against terran too? Only the natural needs to be taken but taking a nexus first loses to various other terran 1 base shenanigans. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it? | ||
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itsjuspeter
United States668 Posts
On September 06 2011 18:28 Oboeman wrote: I have a question. all this talk of talk needing an expansion to have enough income to power enough gateways to hold this off... does protoss need to be up a base against terran too? against this build yes, normally we don't need to but because of the vulnerability of the early game to marine/tank, we need enough "buffer" units to clear out the terran 1 base, in other words, we cannot be cost effective to hold this, thus we need a second base.  | ||
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laee
Germany137 Posts
On September 06 2011 18:27 Fig wrote: that is why colossi are not the answer =/ no colossi + ff ramp (+ warpprism harass) is. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
It's like MKP put a curse on him. | ||
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
On September 06 2011 18:28 Oboeman wrote: I have a question. all this talk of talk needing an expansion to have enough income to power enough gateways to hold this off... does protoss need to be up a base against terran too? Not in the same way zerg does. But you can't beat terran 1 base with P or Z 1 base. | ||
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
this match will just decide who is first and second in the group. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
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