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-Imbalance/race whine;
-Preemptive GGing;
-any other assorted offtopic negativism and arguments.

This topic for talk about the games, not your general dislike for a certain matchup or SC2 in general. Enjoy this free event that has been provided to you. Share your enthusiasm for the games!

Feel free to shoot me a PM or query me on IRC for any questions or comments. Have fun! ~Nyovne
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 09:28:53
September 06 2011 09:28 GMT
#241
Both collosi die. All the zealots melt.

Terran wins again. Bunker and both tanks survive. I think a few ancillary marines are about too.

Major notabl mistake. Failure ot pop gateways down immediately after he lost them. Probably cost him 2-4 zealots he could have had.

Would he have broken out against that positioning?

Dunno. Without an airunit. Sentries should have been able to hold the ramp and more units could have been macroed out. Still didn't look particularally hard to execute.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
PikaXchU
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore379 Posts
September 06 2011 09:28 GMT
#242
On September 06 2011 18:25 Barkziee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...


Need the economic advantage to stand a chance.
Need to delay the attack to stand a chance.
How are you in a position to be judging it in such a biased manner? I'm baffled...


Delay the attack? From so far away? It's not like the sentries were already there, and he takes the risk to send units from so far and HOPES your opponent doesn't move out? Why use the HOPE strategy? A ranged colossus is probably what he needs and more units. That observer isn't an illusion.
Carrier has arrived.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 06 2011 09:28 GMT
#243
So many TvP matches look so, so brutal.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 06 2011 09:28 GMT
#244
On September 06 2011 18:27 itsjuspeter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


Are you another one of those people who don't understand you need the income of 2 bases to stop a 1 base terran? get educated please.


Wat?

Please refer to various threads on TL which pretty much prove you need to fast expand in order to get more units out in TvP to hold 1-1-1.

Unless your saying less units is better than more units?
twitch.tv/medrea
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 09:29:06
September 06 2011 09:28 GMT
#245
On September 06 2011 18:28 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


I have a question.

all this talk of talk needing an expansion to have enough income to power enough gateways to hold this off...

does protoss need to be up a base against terran too?


lol no, but you have to hold the terran outside your natural or he'll turtle up outside your base until your starved out
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Q8_Devil
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom63 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 09:29:13
September 06 2011 09:28 GMT
#246

Are you another one of those people who don't understand you need the income of 2 bases to stop a 1 base terran? get educated please.

lol, except he didn't even get any income from that second base and the only thing it did is losing 400 minerals and delaying coloss.
Matrix
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#247
Poor Alicia shouldnt have moved out, if he went for 1 base collosi or maybe tried to hold the natural while teching to collosi, he might be okay
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#248
Poll: Recommend Supernova vs Alicia?

No (47)
 
85%

Yes (7)
 
13%

If you have time (1)
 
2%

55 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Supernova vs Alicia?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#249
C'mon Leenock ;; get code S this time
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fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#250
The leenocktopus has arrived
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#251
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MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
ThePieRate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States263 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#252
LETS GO LEENOCKTOPUS!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#253
On September 06 2011 18:28 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


I have a question.

all this talk of talk needing an expansion to have enough income to power enough gateways to hold this off...

does protoss need to be up a base against terran too?


Only the natural needs to be taken but taking a nexus first loses to various other terran 1 base shenanigans.
twitch.tv/medrea
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#254
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


I have a genuine question, is it not better to have 400 minerals worth of units than a nexus which just died without him even using it?
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itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#255
On September 06 2011 18:28 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


I have a question.

all this talk of talk needing an expansion to have enough income to power enough gateways to hold this off...

does protoss need to be up a base against terran too?



against this build yes, normally we don't need to but because of the vulnerability of the early game to marine/tank, we need enough "buffer" units to clear out the terran 1 base, in other words, we cannot be cost effective to hold this, thus we need a second base.
laee
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany137 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#256
On September 06 2011 18:27 Fig wrote:
that is why colossi are not the answer =/


no colossi + ff ramp (+ warpprism harass) is.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#257
Alicia hasn't been the same since beating MKP and knocking him out of Code S.

It's like MKP put a curse on him.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
September 06 2011 09:29 GMT
#258
On September 06 2011 18:28 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 18:26 Eppa! wrote:
On September 06 2011 18:24 PikaXchU wrote:
See Terran 1 base, doesn't cancel Nexus. See huge army, send units out to die..
How is this guy good? I'm baffled...

If you cancel Nexus you lose.


I have a question.

all this talk of talk needing an expansion to have enough income to power enough gateways to hold this off...

does protoss need to be up a base against terran too?

Not in the same way zerg does. But you can't beat terran 1 base with P or Z 1 base.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
September 06 2011 09:30 GMT
#259
boom, boom, boom

this match will just decide who is first and second in the group.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 06 2011 09:30 GMT
#260
so how will byun try to cheese out leenock lol?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
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