EPThahaha, that is so funny but sadly true.
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Gargara
Romania150 Posts
hahaha, that is so funny but sadly true. | ||
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xMalicious
United States31 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:42 dbddbddb wrote: nothing to do with the match up but in general the 111 build against toss seems too effective. A large number of posts i have read are all in relation to MC being an "amazing" or "great" player when PuMa is looked at as a "good" player. Those are the people my comment is aimed at. | ||
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plutonowy
Afghanistan287 Posts
MC not shaking Puma`s hand after games is pitiful. That is childlish. I ♥ E-Sports. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
Now that I think about it, I wonder if BW pros whined about certain strategies that dominated certain eras. Just like 1-1-1 is "owning" it up again now in SC2. MC's couple mistakes were too great and those cost him the game :[ Very well played by Puma, I hope to see more matches between these two ^^ | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:37 taLbuk wrote: Remember when zergs were crying 2 months ago about protoss being unbeatable and than they changed up their strategy and playstyle? Protoss will do the same ,so instead of QQ'ing on forums hopefully they put their effort into finding a solution, but I'm sure the top toss are trying, granted MC just lost, look what Mana did to PuMa in group stage. Did zerg change their gameplay? Infestors got an insane buff. Protoss got multiple nerfs. I would use infestors too if I had them as toss >.> | ||
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:42 rareh wrote: Puma was sick. So anyone can beat someone sick. Tbh Mana's PvT is probably better than MC's. He always keeps his HTs in the back and waits with them until all EMPs are used, it's pretty cool | ||
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casualman
United States1198 Posts
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skrotcyk
Sweden432 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:43 dcsoda wrote: This. Not to mention that Puma has ALREADY beaten MC in another finals. I don't see why this so surprising or distressing. Were people reacting this way after the NASL finals? NASL finals had epic games mostly, greatly played by both players. This was just a joke, a husk of that series. MC played really well, but had absolutely no chance against 1-1-1. He even managed to defend it once, only to lose to the recoil. It's bad, TvP is looking bad, at least when played by koreans. | ||
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Ripper41
284 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:43 HellionDrop wrote: puma played so well. mc just got outplayed IMHO. he could've won the first game. and he just played bad in the third game 2 build order wins = outplayed.... maybe, I would def say yes if those build order wins required some creativity but they didn't | ||
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divinesage
Singapore649 Posts
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ct2299
380 Posts
Very interesting that Protoss needs Zealot + HT w/ Storm to negate a drop of 4 marauders w/ stim. not complaining, just raising some interesting points. | ||
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Geophagus
67 Posts
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Xercen
United Kingdom375 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:40 HaruRH wrote: No, you're completely wrong. Its the technique used to win the game. 1/1/1 Is pretty much terran's 4gate. Not surprised to see terrans start using this build in metagame. This also shows how bad protoss's metagame is right now. Bosstoss tried charge, lost to 1/1/1. i've seen MC use cheesy tactics...like the one where he 2 gated white ra in the finals. what goes around come around. MC is one of my favorite players and i'm a zerg player but he made some mistakes in the final games (esp the first game 2nd big battle was poorly microed). They played a great macro game in game 2 and puma won because he was ahead on upgrades and mc lost his warp prism unfortunately. the way i see it is the game is pretty balanced. i think 1-1-1 might be a tad too strong but overall the game is still incredibly balanced! i think protoss pylon cannon block vs zerg is quite strong also so maybe blizzard can change that and 1-1-1 a little bit. | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:40 Jimmy Raynor wrote: Few months ago protoss players were suggesting to zergs to find new playstyles to beat them and not cry about imbalance but when they lose they can't listen to their own advice. How many time do we have to say this again? Zerg didn't figure any shit. Spore crawlers got buffed against VRs and DTs opening. Warp gate nerf so no more 4 gating. Massive infestor buff help insanely different story in ZvX. Stop thinking you're a genius or anything. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:39 PeggyHill wrote: Just another 350 gas (for archives and 1 templar), no big. Right, that's why I implied he'd get it instead of DT's, 375 gas for 1 shrine and 1 DT. | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:40 WickedBit wrote: Im sorry but blizz wont nerf terran. I think we need a new morrow who will just 1/1/1 every game with toss till blizz nerf it or buff toss. I have no idea why all terrans dont do it every game. Is it a morality thing ? Clearly here is a build when decently executed will beat all tosses in the world and there is no good response and doesnt require toss to be 100 times better than terran to hold. PuMA cheesed his way to final win and people are saying he is good ? I saw nothing in this game from Puma that any terran in the world wont be capable off. He is just a random code B scrub who has trouble in korea since he sucks at TvT since everyone is a terran there. Let me see him beet MVP or bomber and I'll agree he is good. All he did is come out of korea to own non koreans  .Wow, talk about being bitter.. I didn't know that doing his best to put food on the table would involve that much jabbing at his skill level. | ||
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MarKeD
Australia183 Posts
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Catchafire2000
United States227 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:38 Jayrod wrote: Was there something impressive about Puma in that last game? He literally built a 1 raven, 4 tanks, and all marines and then walked to MC's based with all of his workers... that's literally all he did. Was there something impressive about Puma in that last game? He literally built a 1 raven, 4 tanks, and all marines and then walked to MC's based with all of his workers... that's literally all he did. LOL, um, you are kinda right here. No ghosts at all. Still, nothing really strong from MC either. QQ, just seems like what Puma did can be replicated by most Terran players... wait, I think most Terran players are 1-1-1 on ladders as is. Nice to see a pro do it though. | ||
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Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
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