EPTit's amazing he is still in Code S after all, similar to FruitDealer still being in GSL.
[GSL] Aug Code S RO32 Day 3 - Page 174
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siewkeat
282 Posts
it's amazing he is still in Code S after all, similar to FruitDealer still being in GSL. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:48 MrCon wrote: After his beautiful stalker micro, tester killed himself. "HO, he's pushing, time to start a nexus an to make an observer" Yeah that observer poping out was ridiculous. Should have cancelled Nexus and saved his units as much as he could, but the cancel was way too late. | ||
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Shaxe
Netherlands590 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:47 Medrea wrote: Immortals kind of stink though. 250/100 for a unit that doesnt really do much except get focus fired by marines who deal full damage to it. 4 Range kind of makes that unit a big resource dump for what it brings to that encounter. Trickster should have more Zealots chasing those marines and preferably draw tank splashes as well instead of making too many Stalkers. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:49 Alric wrote: Except marines have little health and clump, so you have the following choices of counters: as Z: banelings, infestors as T: siege tanks as P: high templar, colossus If you just build stalkers or something, then yes you will lose. Stalkers are you how you stop early marine allins. Collo are how you stop late marine allins. 1-1-1 and all its variants are the timing in between where you can't stop it  | ||
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ETisME
12712 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:49 Alric wrote: Except marines have little health and clump, so you have the following choices of counters: as Z: banelings, infestors as T: siege tanks as P: high templar, colossus If you just build stalkers or something, then yes you will lose. you can't get any of those units early except banelings and siege tanks. This is why I think for protoss, it is pretty tough for them, even through stalkers are pretty good against marine, they don't get pumped out as fast as marines. but I am zerg, what do I know about pvt  | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:49 Probe1 wrote: 4:00 A reaper comes out for aLive while he expands but TOP walks right in the front door with an scv and scouts everything. 5:00 Alive is bringing is total up to 4 barracks while trying to get in harass with reapers but TOP has none of it, easily killing one while the other escapes. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:49 siewkeat wrote: to be fair Tester isn't particularly good even during the open season days... it's amazing he is still in Code S after all, similar to FruitDealer still being in GSL. Well he got knocked out in the qualifiers for GSL2 and 3 by marine/tank/banshee all-ins which people still haven't figured out. | ||
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
He's so good with tanks -.- | ||
GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:48 bbQ4Aiur wrote: id play you on NA, use zealot sentry to beat my rines tanks, just try sentry zealot is not even that bad against marine tank, with good forcefields the tanks destroy the marines, but you have to not cut the army in half but make a pocket to trap all the marines (or a big % of the marines) | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:50 Shaxe wrote: Trickster should have more Zealots chasing those marines and preferably draw tank splashes as well instead of making too many Stalkers. Yeah. Thats generally the idea. Ive been reading defense guides that say to get charge but I wonder if its even necessary. | ||
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SxYSpAz
United States1451 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:48 dooraven wrote: He had plenty of time to get Colossus, which does pretty well against Marine Tank (it's the banshees that screw it up). This was pretty defendable by Trickster by doing the correct responses and he didn't. yeah i agree for the most part. i think i'd have to see it play out, and i'm not sure if it would have been possible without those tank snipes, but i think no expo, with colli, on top of the fact that he did snipe those tanks means he could have held it | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:50 HaXXspetten wrote: Missed Tester vs Ryung, anything spectacular? Or just another op 1/1/1 autowin? Actually, it was a hellion opening into a marine/tank push. Interesting play by ryung, but not the most entertaining game. It's pretty obvious Tester just wasn't prepared for the build at all. He saw it coming and even had an observer out, and he just didn't respond well at all. Just ignore the whining. It seems that protoss is the new zerg. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:50 Probe1 wrote: 5:00 Alive is bringing is total up to 4 barracks while trying to get in harass with reapers but TOP has none of it, easily killing one while the other escapes. 7:00 TOP is going pure mech and scans, scouting aLives 4 rax opener. Blue flame completes which will give TOP a huge advantage over aLives mostly marine composition. | ||
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Alric
Australia517 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:50 Yaotzin wrote: Stalkers are you how you stop early marine allins. Collo are how you stop late marine allins. 1-1-1 and all its variants are the timing in between where you can't stop it Well I was talking about in the later game, since Yaotzin was talking about combat shields + medivacs which you don't get in this kind of all in. Artosis seemed to think you could get colossus fast enough to counter that marine/tank all-in, but I'm neither P nor T so I can't comment on that. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:52 Haydin wrote: Actually, it was a hellion opening into a marine/tank push. Interesting play by ryung, but not the most entertaining game. It's pretty obvious Tester just wasn't prepared for the build at all. He saw it coming and even had an observer out, and he just didn't respond well at all. Just ignore the whining. It seems that protoss is the new zerg. If Terrans had 40% winrate they'd be sad and frustrated too you know :p Well I was talking about in the later game, since Yaotzin was talking about combat shields + medivacs which you don't get in this kind of all in. Artosis seemed to think you could get colossus fast enough to counter that marine/tank all-in, but I'm neither P nor T so I can't comment on that. I dunno when Tester saw the 3 rax so I dunno if he could've in time. Just saying, the timing is horribly awkward for Protoss. If you rush collo and their allin hits early, then you don't have stalkers you needed. If you go stalkers and they push later...no collo, dead. | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:53 Yaotzin wrote: If Terrans had 40% winrate they'd be sad and frustrated too you know :p 40 percent is being generous at the moment. Closer to say 28. Point still stands though. | ||
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