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On August 16 2011 20:42 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:41 Asha` wrote:
Sigh.
Disappointing seeing pretty average Terrans like Ryung finding success in TvP almost solely because of this build. More like because Tester is really bad and deserved to be demoted to Code A ages ago.
exactly what i was thinking
there is just NOTHING special about tester, he was really good in beta and since then he falls off
i actually can see into his brain
pvp? 1 base all-in
pvz? 2 base all-in with air after ffe if possible
pvt? 3 base colossus 200supply "timing push", if i get all-ined: try getting to two base and then all-in
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On August 16 2011 20:44 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:43 Nerdslayer wrote:
Protoss dying left and right atm to Terran only protoss I seen l8tly win vs terran is MaNa vs Nada What, so Huk and Puzzle winning today didn't happen? If you're gonna troll, at least put some effort in it
Huk lost and advanced through PvP. Puzzle went 1-1
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On August 16 2011 20:44 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:43 Nerdslayer wrote:
Protoss dying left and right atm to Terran only protoss I seen l8tly win vs terran is MaNa vs Nada What, so Huk and Puzzle winning today didn't happen? If you're gonna troll, at least put some effort in it
Yea, because Huk beat terran to advance. If you're gonna misuse word troll, at least put some effort in it.
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On August 16 2011 20:45 Shaxe wrote:
People whining about what happened in the game isn't listening to what Tastosis is saying. Jeez remember when zergs were whining about ZvP and all the protosses were going L2P? How about some of that now? Artosis had a good point about scouting the all-in but still tried to expand, also Observers instead of Immortals when he knew it was an all-in.
Immortals kind of stink though. 250/100 for a unit that doesnt really do much except get focus fired by marines who deal full damage to it. 4 Range kind of makes that unit a big resource dump for what it brings to that encounter.
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TOP always has great intro's, best one yet!  .
Except for MC's OGSMC YELL RAARRR
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On August 16 2011 20:45 Engore wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:42 sickle wrote:On August 16 2011 20:42 mikyaJ wrote:On August 16 2011 20:40 Scarecrow wrote:
this is why 111 is so freaking strong, marine tank is so tough for toss to deal with early game Do you even know what that is? I see no Starport You don't know what you're talking about He is saying that even pure marine/tank is hard enough to deal with. 1-1-1 is even fkn tougher. I dunno. While he was micro'ing those stalkers in Ryung's base he could have easily got up a robo bay and got range + 1-2 colossus and that would have been all she wrote.
Oh yea definitely. I admit that Tester sort of did throw that game away, he could have had it with his composition just with better engagements.
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On August 16 2011 20:46 Porcelina wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:43 GreyKnight wrote:
how the fuck was that a 1/1/1? what are you guys even babbling about? this build is not very strong and can be easily crushed once scouted.
trickster if you guys know his history is stained with 2 base all ins vs zerg. ryung doesn't even compare to what trickster does Any balance whines about early Terran aggression or all in play now gets labeled 1/1/1. Sad but true. Will be interesting to see if Tester can get out of this group now or even stay in Code S. He has brilliance, but he also has some flaws. Fixing or succumbing to, that is the question.
yeah pretty much. ppl were calling the MC vs MVP game a 1-1-1 all-in.
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On August 16 2011 20:45 Latto wrote:
did he get combat shields too?
and is there any particular reason blizzard decided that marines need more health via combat shield? especially when terrans are capable of having flying hospitals over their army thus making every marine a cracked out version of rambo on stim carrying a shield with a hovering hospital/dropship aiding them
oops I went on a marine op rant
They get shields so they get obliterated by aoe a little less.
The problem is that timing when the opponent doesn't have aoe but the Terran has tons of marines. It's a problem in both vT matchups.
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On August 16 2011 20:44 bbQ4Aiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:42 Mercury- wrote:On August 16 2011 20:41 Asha` wrote:
Sigh.
Disappointing seeing pretty average Terrans like Ryung finding success in TvP almost solely because of this build. This build?! Trickster went 80% Stalkers against Marine/Tank -_- If anyone is to blame then him. what else should he do then? stalkers are the best gateway units against marines
Zealot/Sentry*
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He had plenty of time to get Colossus, which does pretty well against Marine Tank (it's the banshees that screw it up). This was pretty defendable by Trickster by doing the correct responses and he didn't.
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On August 16 2011 20:46 Probe1 wrote: TOPvs aLiveon Xel'Naga FortressStarting at the top left is aLive Starting on the right is TOP
2:30
aLive opens rax gas while TOP is going for a rax command center.
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After his beautiful stalker micro, tester killed himself. "HO, he's pushing, time to start a nexus an to make an observer"
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Well, poor play by Trickster, but I am not a fan of Ryung. One of the Terrans I would like to see falling from code S. Go TOP.
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On August 16 2011 20:48 Mercury- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:44 bbQ4Aiur wrote:On August 16 2011 20:42 Mercury- wrote:On August 16 2011 20:41 Asha` wrote:
Sigh.
Disappointing seeing pretty average Terrans like Ryung finding success in TvP almost solely because of this build. This build?! Trickster went 80% Stalkers against Marine/Tank -_- If anyone is to blame then him. what else should he do then? stalkers are the best gateway units against marines Zealot/Sentry*
id play you on NA, use zealot sentry to beat my rines tanks, just try
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On August 16 2011 20:45 Latto wrote:
did he get combat shields too?
and is there any particular reason blizzard decided that marines need more health via combat shield? especially when terrans are capable of having flying hospitals over their army thus making every marine a cracked out version of rambo on stim carrying a shield with a hovering hospital/dropship aiding them
oops I went on a marine op rant
Except marines have little health and clump, so you have the following choices of counters:
as Z: banelings, infestors
as T: siege tanks
as P: high templar, colossus
If you just build stalkers or something, then yes you will lose.
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On August 16 2011 20:48 MrCon wrote:
After his beautiful stalker micro, tester killed himself. "HO, he's pushing, time to start a nexus an to make an observer"
The nexus was a mistake, but when his observer died, he had to get another one.
You have to know when the tanks unsiege, but he fucked up anyways.
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On August 16 2011 20:47 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:46 Porcelina wrote:On August 16 2011 20:43 GreyKnight wrote:
how the fuck was that a 1/1/1? what are you guys even babbling about? this build is not very strong and can be easily crushed once scouted.
trickster if you guys know his history is stained with 2 base all ins vs zerg. ryung doesn't even compare to what trickster does Any balance whines about early Terran aggression or all in play now gets labeled 1/1/1. Sad but true. Will be interesting to see if Tester can get out of this group now or even stay in Code S. He has brilliance, but he also has some flaws. Fixing or succumbing to, that is the question. yeah pretty much. ppl were calling the MC vs MVP game a 1-1-1 all-in.
Yea that one in particular bothered me a lot.
He did Marine/Tank and set up a hard contain with a superior economy and choked out MC slowly.
Yet somehow that was a 111 all in. It's just nerd rage. It isn't meant to make sense, it's just meant to be ragey.
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On August 16 2011 20:44 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:43 Nerdslayer wrote:
Protoss dying left and right atm to Terran only protoss I seen l8tly win vs terran is MaNa vs Nada What, so Huk and Puzzle winning today didn't happen? If you're gonna troll, at least put some effort in it
Huk lost to a Terran and won two PvP's
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On August 16 2011 20:48 Probe1 wrote:2:30aLive opens rax gas while TOP is going for a rax command center.
4:00
A reaper comes out for aLive while he expands but TOP walks right in the front door with an scv and scouts everything.
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On August 16 2011 20:48 dooraven wrote:
He had plenty of time to get Colossus, which does pretty well against Marine Tank (it's the banshees that screw it up). This was pretty defendable by Trickster by doing the correct responses and he didn't.
Yeah i agree. Normally Toss is busy fast expanding but since he didnt have his expo up Colossus would have been a golden opportunity.
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