EPTOn August 16 2011 19:11 s3183529 wrote:
The only race P can win nowadays is Z
The only race P can win nowadays is Z
and other P's obviously
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Twelve12
Australia268 Posts
and other P's obviously | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Starting on the right is Zenio Starting on the left is asd | ||
Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:07 wats0n wrote: Ghosts are just far away better than templar. The ability to remove energy in an aoe is infinitely more useful than aoe damage. Are you serious? HTs can make archons, HTs can remove energy (not aoe, I know) *and* remove health at the same time, and they've got the aoe damage. I'd say they are at least equal... | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
same goes for zerg. you should never clump up (especially not the infestors) | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:11 Yaotzin wrote: EMPs are really easy. There's a reason you almost never see ineffective EMPs. They have huge range and plenty of aoe so they're basically always good. Storms are really easy. There's a reason you almost never see ineffective storms. They have huge range and plenty of aoe so they're basically always good. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:13 PeggyHill wrote: Ugh, do you play PvT? So you would just allow the ghosts some free emps all over your army? EMPs are pretty meaningless to zealots. It's good to bait them. Feedback snipes are great and all, but it's rolling the dice completely. | ||
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jupidar
United States229 Posts
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Orpheusz
Australia210 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:13 zul wrote: same goes for zerg. you should never clump up (especially not the infestors) Lol, I've seen far worse infestor control than that in almost every game, win or loss. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:13 Soyuz wrote: Are you serious? HTs can make archons, HTs can remove energy (not aoe, I know) *and* remove health at the same time, and they've got the aoe damage. I'd say they are at least equal... The problem is that, because of the AoE, EMP outranges feedback by two, and ghosts are probably the most mobile caster in the game. | ||
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HinagikUx
United States178 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:11 s3183529 wrote: The only race P can win nowadays is Z i lol'd | ||
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proot
United States126 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:13 Soyuz wrote: Are you serious? HTs can make archons, HTs can remove energy (not aoe, I know) *and* remove health at the same time, and they've got the aoe damage. I'd say they are at least equal... EMP deals its damage instantly though, that has to be mentioned. Its a lot of damage too. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:13 Probe1 wrote: Starting on the right is Zenio Starting on the left is asd 3:00 Zenio opens with a hatch first play and asd goes for 1 rax gas. | ||
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Daniel C
Hong Kong1606 Posts
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revoN
Japan804 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:10 wats0n wrote: He was breaking off templars the entire time. People saying he should have split are retarded. Terrans can scan then run up and emp/snipe but protoss has to rely on observers or just walking up templar which end up getting murdered before fog of war clears. Yeah, 1 EMP eliminating all HTs is the same as 1 EMP for 1 HT exchange... you make it sound like P had absolutely no chance while it was just Puzzle's sloppy play that lost him the game and not asd's ghost control IMO. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:13 Soyuz wrote: Are you serious? HTs can make archons, HTs can remove energy (not aoe, I know) *and* remove health at the same time, and they've got the aoe damage. I'd say they are at least equal... no fuck i'm so sick of people using archons as a reason for HTs good against a ghost comp jesus puzzle lost because he failed to react to that drop, he clumped his army and all his sentries got EMP'd (these were the important guys, needed to FF to buy time for colossi) and he tech switched way too late, considering he was on 4 bases asd played really well too, hopefully puzzle still pulls ahead | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:14 Bagi wrote: Storms are really easy. There's a reason you almost never see ineffective storms. They have huge range and plenty of aoe so they're basically always good. You see bad storms all the time wtf. Terran can run out of them and take very little damage. The difference is HTs are slow as molasses and have worse range so you can't dodge EMPs. people underestimate how much range matters in this game. Ghosts outranging everything Protoss has is...a problem. | ||
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:12 HolyArrow wrote: Well, if you get WP speed your WP will always be faster than even stimmed marines so if your micro is absolutely sublime, you can make it work, theoretically. I'd also really like to see some protoss try dropping/warping some chargelots behind a terran bioball as it's pushing in to cut off reinforcements/help with a surround. The timing window to get the zealots out and engaging is probably super small though. | ||
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Scila
Canada1849 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:15 Daralii wrote: The problem is that, because of the AoE, EMP outranges feedback by two, and ghosts are probably the most mobile caster in the game. And also the only caster that is absolutely useless by itself and is only used to counter the use of specific units, mostly other casters. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On August 16 2011 19:08 Lann555 wrote: Another Protoss just got outplayed. ASD landed one sick EMP after the other, while I only saw 1 good feedback on a ghost the entire match. And Puzzle was damn sloppy with his HT all game long. Completely deserved win for asd Ok, this wasn't a 111 roflstomp and asd indeed deserved the win - but when have you ever seen a complete EMP-miss? Since EMP has higher range than feedback/storm and since HTs move so slowly, it's actually not that easy to miss with EMPs. | ||
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hope he wins the next match.. hes for sure the best in his group T_T
