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On August 12 2011 20:13 Vitamins wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:09 JKira wrote:On August 12 2011 20:07 Vitamins wrote:On August 12 2011 20:06 JKira wrote:On August 12 2011 20:03 Vitamins wrote:On August 12 2011 20:00 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:59 Vitamins wrote:On August 12 2011 19:57 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:56 Vitamins wrote:
Now hopefully Protoss stops crying. You're assuming Protoss players are stupid and will be pacified by seeing a crappily executed 1-1-1 held. Hear what Artosis is saying about the free kills Puzzle got? Killing a key unit turns the tides of an all-in/rush? Gasp! I am in shock! I don't feel like you're addressing my main point here. Letting those units die was asd's fault. Of course it was his fault. Had he even had the banshees and kept them with the army, Puzzle still would have phoenix for either banshee/marine soak and siege tank pick-ups. It still would have been different results than any of the current 1/1/1 tear-feasts, win or lose. And it was looking like he would have won regardless of getting the free banshees. But he almost lost even with the free banshees and tanks, so how can you say it looked like he would've won without them? That was almost losing? Oh, okay. Edit: ^ exactly He ended up with like a few stalkers that were badly damaged. Did you hear Artosis? And lol at you trying to bring Jinro into this. You clearly weren't watching or lack some serious understand of the game if all he had left was "a few stalkers that were badly damage" in the middle of the map. I forgot he lost his expansion, all his workers, and his warpgates against the handful of scary marines that may have survived the fight. I mean come on, it's like you're trolling your logic is so rubbery. How the hell am I bringing Jinro into it anything, by agreeing with his comment? Take some extra time before your next post.
Okay man, Iunno how to debate with you. I don't want to start flaming you even though you haven't hesitated to do the same to me. Even Artosis commented on how Puzzle almost died. You don't need to lose your expansion and workers to be almost dead. If you lose your army while the opponent retains a critical amount of units then you are dead. Isn't that basic starcraft?
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On August 12 2011 20:11 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. Mvp said that terran is the worst race and NesTea said zerg is weak against both terran and protoss. What's your point?
My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid.
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On August 12 2011 20:15 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:13 SxYSpAz wrote:On August 12 2011 20:12 Beyonder wrote:On August 12 2011 20:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 12 2011 20:08 SxYSpAz wrote:
Me: Hey HerO, what should I do if Protoss makes phoenix vs me when I open 1/1/1? Hero: Hm... *thinking* *Vines walks by*: Ahahahaha Terran NEVER win ahahaha I dont get it though, cant you just make viking instead of banshees? P wont get to lift tanks. All T needs to do is actually scan/scout? exactly, it was super smart by puzzle for the way terrans are playing this out... but it's incredibly simple changes Marine/Tank/VIKING all-in? The purpose of the Phoenix is to nullify the Banshees :/
i honestly think it's powerful enough for you to still use banshee army comp and just keep it with your rines, but vikings definitely better.
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On August 12 2011 20:14 Shalaiyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:07 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Lol, been saying forever that phoenix is a free win vs any factory build ^_^;
Yesterday people whined so hard because Thorzain doesnt send his first banshee to scout, today asd sends his first banshee to scout and gets raped by phoenix.
How about you all go jump into a fucking lake.
Note: Build could still be stupidly good, but people who think its completely unbeatable are wrong. Didn't MC go phoenix against you on Lost Temple back in January, and you beat him? What has changed that much for protoss?
IIRC he went phoenix on Scrap Station vs mass thors (after a 4 gate opening) =p And it was a like 15 minute almost limit push, not a 1/1/1 build, so very different.
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On August 12 2011 20:16 Scythe90 wrote:
Who did puzzle lose Code S r32 too?
He hasn't played yet.
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Who bloody hasn't in the last few days. -_- I agree with your annoyance at the 111 comment shitfest.
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On August 12 2011 20:16 Scythe90 wrote:
Who did puzzle lose Code S r32 too?
He has not played yet.
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*sigh* TheBest has already lost this...
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On August 12 2011 20:16 Scythe90 wrote:
Who did puzzle lose Code S r32 too?
No one. He's still in. Just hasn't played yet.
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wtf is Best doing? Hide in one base forever?
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On August 12 2011 20:16 Scythe90 wrote:
Who did puzzle lose Code S r32 too?
hasn't played yet.
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Why would u make ur supplys there if ur ganna 2rax..?
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On August 12 2011 20:16 Scythe90 wrote:
Who did puzzle lose Code S r32 too?
He hasn't played yet, he plays next Tuesday
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On August 12 2011 20:11 Shooks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:07 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:05 Shooks wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. When have they have complained about it? Why do so many people over-exaggerate things? Puzzle complained about it on his stream, and Alicia and SangHo both tweeted about it. I believe that constitutes "complaining", and thus, I don't see where I over-exaggerated anything. ;ooo a pro said something is imba, it MUST be imba, so, everytime IdrA complains I guess he's right, you're a fucking idiot lol.
Lol. On da real.. Just ignore that shit. Wasn't the 2rax "broken" for a while? I hate bitching conclusively about a certain build. Reminds me of IdrA arguing with Day9... You need a lot more time and exploration before you can bitch about "imba imba!!!11" races/builds. If it was really so obviously and conclusively "imba", there would be a consistent objective complaint. Instead it's just a bunch of random bitchery. "He didn't use banshees early! He used banshee too early gave away fo free!!" please.
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On August 12 2011 20:14 asperger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:08 Jehct wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 asperger wrote:
Can someone give us some PlayXP reactions regarding the GSTL? Don't they give a shit either (looks like the coaches mainly use it for giving the players experience)? People are way too ready to criticize coach player picks. Who do you play instead of TheBest? SC's TvT has been slumping and he's the only real contender. Sure, either one of them will probably get knocked out by Byun even if they beat Puzzle, but TheBest probably has the better shot (and his 1/1/1 is probably better, too). I play the best player, i.e. sC. At least he could take out Puzzle, and has the potential to kill the rest of ZeNEX. If TheBest somehow manages to win he has to face even more players that he shouldn't be able to beat.
Yeah, you pick sC because he stands a chance here and even if theBest is better here you still have to worry about the rest of the matches. It goes beyond this one game, the one player you pick has to go on to win the rest of the games.
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There is no way this "rush" is going to work
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EPT
