[GSTL] Venus Group Week 7 - Page 64
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
No, his Raven came out far too late for that. | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:16 Scythe90 wrote: Who did puzzle lose Code S r32 too? Puzzle has not played yet | ||
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Shooks
Australia256 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote: You actually think you have room to scan in a build where you cut scvs at 23 and is made to rape fast expands t.t? Like, its an allin, its not a safe build where you dont take risks... You are not gonna scout phoenix openings. Phoenix openings are such a tiny subset of P openings, so Im not even making a balance statement here, Im just saying they are very good at stopping 1/1/1, which they are because you get a free banshee almost all the time and negate pdd completely. Dude, I used to SG all the time scouting 1-1-1. It absolutely demolishes if Terran move out early but it doesn't do anything to a later push with more marines and scv's, you invested so much on Phoenix that you don't have many gateway units and no AOE to deal with the ball of marines/scvs Oh btw I'm not one of these scrubs whinging about the build, I personally think it's quite easy to hold. | ||
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teamamerica
United States958 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:16 JKira wrote: Okay man, Iunno how to debate with you. I don't want to start flaming you even though you haven't hesitated to do the same to me. Even Artosis commented on how Puzzle almost died. You don't need to lose your expansion and workers to be almost dead. If you lose your army while the opponent retains a critical amount of units then you are dead. Isn't that basic starcraft? C'mon man it's not like Artosis ever became the voice for objective reason. How did Puzzle almost die please. Explain to me. | ||
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:10 Lann555 wrote: Alot of Protoss aren't really looking for a way to counter 1/1/1. They are looking for a buff ![]() So every time 1/1/1 loses, it's just because Terran fucked up or Protoss got lucky or way outplayed his opponent ![]() No, we are not mainly looking for a buff - we are looking for a way how to perfectly counter this build! The amount of skill to stop this is really high and we would love to watch one Terran execute this build good and a protoss holding it. Puzzle has shown the best counter to this build so far but asd didn't execute it perfectly. It's a really good study example though and I'm happy to have seen this build by Puzzle, it gives us hope! | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:17 FallDownMarigold wrote: \Lol. On da real.. Just ignore that shit. Wasn't the 2rax "broken" for a while? I hate bitching conclusively about a certain build. Reminds me of IdrA arguing with Day9... You need a lot more time and exploration before you can bitch about "imba imba!!!11" races/builds. If it was really so obviously and conclusively "imba", there would be a consistent objective complaint. Instead it's just a bunch of random bitchery. "He didn't use banshees early! He used banshee too early gave away fo free!!" please. 2rax was broken, you are ignorant if you think otherwise it took 4 seperate nerfs to fix 1. bigger maps 2. remove close spawns 3. depot before barracks 4. no bunkers on ramps | ||
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HQuality
2682 Posts
so fkin embarassing | ||
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Pajegetc
United States3158 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:16 Scythe90 wrote: Who did puzzle lose Code S r32 too? He didn't play yet in Code S. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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ThaSlayer
707 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:18 HQuality wrote: thebest is like "ok i make this barrack, then factory, then starport, then mmm another barrack i guess, then make units units units, then go a+move" so fkin embarassing He didnt make a starport | ||
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
edit: basically I'm trying to say that the harassment seems like something that would be nice if it does damage, but it's a risk and isn't necessary for the push to work | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:18 teamamerica wrote: C'mon man it's not like Artosis ever became the voice for objective reason. How did Puzzle almost die please. Explain to me. Because he almost lost all his stalkers before killing all the tanks? Now imagine if there were 3 banshees and an extra tank in that army. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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Ramble
Sweden877 Posts
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote: My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid. That is such a sad logical fallacy. | ||
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adapt!
Israel108 Posts
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