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On August 12 2011 19:19 constantqt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:15 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:11 constantqt wrote:
stop the protoss whine you sad people ... Sorry, I wasn't aware making a statement based in solid factual numbers constitutes whine. The 1-1-1 all-in has over a 90% success rate since the Up/Downs last season. This is a mathematical fact. Claiming that it would be risky to send a Protoss due to the potency of the 1-1-1 all-in is merely an observation made from the mathematical reality of the 1-1-1's success rate thus far. and hows that related with the games we had today and talk about in this LR thread, go back to bnet forums, seriously hope you get temp banned for this i see you crying everywhere whenever you have occasion
wow. everyone else hopes you get temp banned. He just made the most reasonable response ever... and i think he's terran
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On August 12 2011 19:17 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:12 SxYSpAz wrote:On August 12 2011 19:11 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:09 IgnE wrote:On August 12 2011 19:08 Emporio wrote:
Sending Protoss in GSTL seems risky right now. Sure they might snipe a player, but it's basically an instant loss to a 1-1-1 the next game. You are a joke. How is it a joke? It's indeed risky, though the 1-1-1 isn't suitable for all maps so it's not as bad as in a Bo3 IMO. It's been held off once so far since the Up/Downs of last season, giving it over a 90% success rate so far. Sounds like the definition of risky to me. what player held this off in up/downs and how?!?! I said "since the Up/Downs". Genius held it off against Thorzain yesterday, though Thorzain messed up the engagement really badly, it still counts as holding it off, I suppose.
god no it doesn't count, thorzain didn't use seige and engaged horribly.
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Puzzle scouts Leenock first and opens Nexus first after seeing a standard pool opener.
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Beyonder
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On August 12 2011 19:21 Lann555 wrote:
So is this the Protoss that is supposed to be really good?
Yep 
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On August 12 2011 19:19 constantqt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:15 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:11 constantqt wrote:
stop the protoss whine you sad people ... Sorry, I wasn't aware making a statement based in solid factual numbers constitutes whine. The 1-1-1 all-in has over a 90% success rate since the Up/Downs last season. This is a mathematical fact. Claiming that it would be risky to send a Protoss due to the potency of the 1-1-1 all-in is merely an observation made from the mathematical reality of the 1-1-1's success rate thus far. and hows that related with the games we had today and talk about in this LR thread, go back to bnet forums, seriously hope you get temp banned for this i see you crying everywhere whenever you have occasion
kinda weird most of the crying i see is coming from you
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On August 12 2011 19:21 Lann555 wrote:
So is this the Protoss that is supposed to be really good?
Well it's one of the few hopes for Aiur
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On August 12 2011 19:19 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:15 StyLeD wrote:On August 12 2011 19:13 SxYSpAz wrote:On August 12 2011 19:12 tymt wrote:
Leenock and Sheth on the same level? Did I hear that right? i honestly think if sheth stayed in korea longer he'd have made it to up/down, altho leenock is probably better, it's not a huge stretch Dude, no man......Leenock and Sheth are not even comparable. For every 10 zerglings Sheth makes, he throws 5 away...same goes with roaches. That's kind of a bold statement. I've seen Sheth play exceptionally, on multiple occasions. 1) He's still adjusting to LANs 2) he commentates when he streams Don't see what's out of place to say Sheth has the potential ("is on the level of") to be top tier.
Sheth is indeed a top NA zerg** (typo), but watch is games vs. Puzzle and even vs. his first opponent. The difference between Leenock and Sheth is that when a Protoss or Terran attacks him, Leenock splits his rally points so that they are allocated to each base.
What Sheth does is what most Zergs do, they hotkey all their hatcheries onto one key and right click one point for all the hatches to spawn. When the Protoss/Terran pushes, they cut of a few bases and therefore the Zerg wastes ling/roach spawns as they walk past the Terran army.
I've also watched Sheth's stream and I'm a huge fan of Leenock also, that's just one thing that comes to mind, and it's a huge difference between a top tier zerg and just a "Very good" zerg.
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On August 12 2011 19:21 ragealot wrote:
1-1-1? It's a PvZ people.
Leenock's going to do the 1 hatch, 1 hatch, 1 hatch!
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On August 12 2011 19:22 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:21 Lann555 wrote:
So is this the Protoss that is supposed to be really good? Yep
Cool. Never seen him play before. What kind of style does he play?
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tasteless mentioning his brother reminds me of how I first learned of them both
I first liked tasteless and lilsusie/superdanielman
then I stumbled across daily#100. Was like "wow this is kinda boring" until day9 mentioned his brother
now I'm plott fan4life :D
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Beyonder
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I predict a ruthless timing attack... Ive seen Puzzle do some crazy timing attacks, he's AWESOME with it :O
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I'm calling it Puzzle will go stargate then +1 attack with 6-7 gateways!
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On August 12 2011 19:21 ragealot wrote:
1-1-1? It's a PvZ people.
If Puzzle beats Leenock, he'll have to deal with either sC or asd, both of whom are terran.
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On August 12 2011 19:22 Probe1 wrote:2:30Puzzle scouts Leenock first and opens Nexus first after seeing a standard pool opener.
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Leenock starts his Lair semi early/normal timing.
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On August 12 2011 19:22 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:19 RogerChillingworth wrote:On August 12 2011 19:15 StyLeD wrote:On August 12 2011 19:13 SxYSpAz wrote:On August 12 2011 19:12 tymt wrote:
Leenock and Sheth on the same level? Did I hear that right? i honestly think if sheth stayed in korea longer he'd have made it to up/down, altho leenock is probably better, it's not a huge stretch Dude, no man......Leenock and Sheth are not even comparable. For every 10 zerglings Sheth makes, he throws 5 away...same goes with roaches. That's kind of a bold statement. I've seen Sheth play exceptionally, on multiple occasions. 1) He's still adjusting to LANs 2) he commentates when he streams Don't see what's out of place to say Sheth has the potential ("is on the level of") to be top tier. Sheth is indeed a top NA terran, but watch is games vs. Puzzle and even vs. his first opponent. The difference between Leenock and Sheth is that when a Protoss or Terran attacks him, Leenock splits his rally points so that they are allocated to each base. What Sheth does is what most Zergs do, they hotkey all their hatcheries onto one key and right click one point for all the hatches to spawn. When the Protoss/Terran pushes, they cut of a few bases and therefore the Zerg wastes ling/roach spawns as they walk past the Terran army. I've also watched Sheth's stream and I'm a huge fan of Leenock also, that's just one thing that comes to mind, and it's a huge difference between a top tier zerg and just a "Very good" zerg.
Sheth is Z
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On August 12 2011 19:21 ragealot wrote:
1-1-1? It's a PvZ people.
talking about puzzle getting sniped the next game if he wins vs leenock obviously ...
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On August 12 2011 19:19 constantqt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:15 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:11 constantqt wrote:
stop the protoss whine you sad people ... Sorry, I wasn't aware making a statement based in solid factual numbers constitutes whine. The 1-1-1 all-in has over a 90% success rate since the Up/Downs last season. This is a mathematical fact. Claiming that it would be risky to send a Protoss due to the potency of the 1-1-1 all-in is merely an observation made from the mathematical reality of the 1-1-1's success rate thus far. and hows that related with the games we had today and talk about in this LR thread, go back to bnet forums, seriously hope you get temp banned for this i see you crying everywhere whenever you have occasion
I think there's a misunderstanding here.
A person made the statement, "It would be risky to send out a Protoss due to the 1-1-1 all-in." This statement is related to the games because we're discussing team league strategy, and, obviously, which player and race you choose is a huge part of that strategy. Thus, that statement was highly relevant to this thread at the time, since Puzzle was chosen and the statement was commenting on the strategic value of choosing Puzzle in the team match. However, other people construed it as whine, and I simply wanted to make an argument for why the statement wasn't a whine.
Now, let's enjoy the games
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OOOOHHH Spine crawler rush
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oh my..
spinecrawler push
i fear for puzzle
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