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On August 12 2011 19:16 Reasonable wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:14 tymt wrote:On August 12 2011 19:13 SxYSpAz wrote:On August 12 2011 19:12 tymt wrote: Leenock and Sheth on the same level? Did I hear that right? i honestly think if sheth stayed in korea longer he'd have made it to up/down, altho leenock is probably better, it's not a huge stretch It's not a huge stretch because you think he would be good if he had stayed in Korea, ok then =) In fact, Sheth is way better than Leenock, if the moon is made of cheese.
Nope not even then.
Have you not seen Leenock eat the cheese ?
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On August 12 2011 19:10 asperger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:09 DystopiaX wrote: Puzzle FIGHTING! On my fantasy team and i've been sucking lately I'm with you, man. Did you have Gumiho too? I'm kind of sad from this week, although JYP and F.United performed fairly well. Used to, traded him sadly.
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On August 12 2011 19:15 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:13 SxYSpAz wrote:On August 12 2011 19:12 tymt wrote: Leenock and Sheth on the same level? Did I hear that right? i honestly think if sheth stayed in korea longer he'd have made it to up/down, altho leenock is probably better, it's not a huge stretch Dude, no man......Leenock and Sheth are not even comparable. For every 10 zerglings Sheth makes, he throws 5 away...same goes with roaches. i think it seems that way because sheth has a more aggressive style... which is worse, i'll admit, but i think a lot of the things that make leenock better aren't huge. like his bing landmines actually pull him so far ahead in his zvt games, he's just incredible with how he burrows them.
even though sheth would have to stay in korea a little while i don't think it would take very long for him to pick things up. He's about ret status... and that is pretty effing good
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Ukraine1432 Posts
The match that I really want to see is Line vs SC
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Is it me or does leenock look like a total boss.
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On August 12 2011 19:15 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:13 SxYSpAz wrote:On August 12 2011 19:12 tymt wrote: Leenock and Sheth on the same level? Did I hear that right? i honestly think if sheth stayed in korea longer he'd have made it to up/down, altho leenock is probably better, it's not a huge stretch Dude, no man......Leenock and Sheth are not even comparable. For every 10 zerglings Sheth makes, he throws 5 away...same goes with roaches.
That's kind of a bold statement. I've seen Sheth play exceptionally, on multiple occasions.
1) He's still adjusting to LANs 2) he commentates when he streams
Don't see what's out of place to say Sheth has the potential ("is on the level of") to be top tier.
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On August 12 2011 19:12 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:10 Philipd122 wrote:On August 12 2011 19:09 Logros wrote:On August 12 2011 19:08 Micket wrote: Well, I think it is perfectly fine to have a zerg favoured map. We don't want Terrans to win everything. GOM should balance the map pool based on how the races are doing. Yeah too bad there are no Protoss favored maps to help them out  . Well what is a good map for Protoss? Taldarim is pretty good vs T. Jinro so smart
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On August 12 2011 19:17 dooraven wrote: Basically a good protoss map is one that has a easily defenable third base. Eg Shakuras, Taldarim
u know why we need choke and easy third base? cause protoss ground units even if in superior numbers get melted in the EARLY/MID game
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If someone can defend 1/1/1 I think it's Puzzle. I mean, it's ridiculous hard strategy to defend against a equall skilled terran, requires so much more from the protoss.
When Puzzle was streaming on TL he basically never slept and was always online and playing, he will be ready for Leenock.
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On August 12 2011 19:15 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:11 constantqt wrote: stop the protoss whine you sad people ... Sorry, I wasn't aware making a statement based in solid factual numbers constitutes whine. The 1-1-1 all-in has over a 90% success rate since the Up/Downs last season. This is a mathematical fact. Claiming that it would be risky to send a Protoss due to the potency of the 1-1-1 all-in is merely an observation made from the mathematical reality of the 1-1-1's success rate thus far. and hows that related with the games we had today and talk about in this LR thread, go back to bnet forums, seriously hope you get temp banned for this i see you crying everywhere whenever you have occasion
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On August 12 2011 19:17 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:12 SxYSpAz wrote:On August 12 2011 19:11 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:09 IgnE wrote:On August 12 2011 19:08 Emporio wrote: Sending Protoss in GSTL seems risky right now. Sure they might snipe a player, but it's basically an instant loss to a 1-1-1 the next game. You are a joke. How is it a joke? It's indeed risky, though the 1-1-1 isn't suitable for all maps so it's not as bad as in a Bo3 IMO. It's been held off once so far since the Up/Downs of last season, giving it over a 90% success rate so far. Sounds like the definition of risky to me. what player held this off in up/downs and how?!?! I said "since the Up/Downs". Genius held it off against Thorzain yesterday, though Thorzain messed up the engagement really badly, it still counts as holding it off, I suppose. It obviously doesn't count. If you botch a build and lose, it's all your fault.
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On August 12 2011 19:19 Zaurus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:17 dooraven wrote: Basically a good protoss map is one that has a easily defenable third base. Eg Shakuras, Taldarim u know why we need choke and easy third base? cause protoss ground units even if in superior numbers get melted in the EARLY/MID game
Yes I know, I main as protoss lol.
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Well, Puzzle is toss, so I give him the disadvantage But this is so even.
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On August 12 2011 19:17 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:12 SxYSpAz wrote:On August 12 2011 19:11 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:09 IgnE wrote:On August 12 2011 19:08 Emporio wrote: Sending Protoss in GSTL seems risky right now. Sure they might snipe a player, but it's basically an instant loss to a 1-1-1 the next game. You are a joke. How is it a joke? It's indeed risky, though the 1-1-1 isn't suitable for all maps so it's not as bad as in a Bo3 IMO. It's been held off once so far since the Up/Downs of last season, giving it over a 90% success rate so far. Sounds like the definition of risky to me. what player held this off in up/downs and how?!?! I said "since the Up/Downs". Genius held it off against Thorzain yesterday, though Thorzain messed up the engagement really badly, it still counts as holding it off, I suppose. i actually disagree. like i said yesterday, it was basically the 1/1/1 push without researching siege xD
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On August 12 2011 19:19 constantqt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:15 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:11 constantqt wrote: stop the protoss whine you sad people ... Sorry, I wasn't aware making a statement based in solid factual numbers constitutes whine. The 1-1-1 all-in has over a 90% success rate since the Up/Downs last season. This is a mathematical fact. Claiming that it would be risky to send a Protoss due to the potency of the 1-1-1 all-in is merely an observation made from the mathematical reality of the 1-1-1's success rate thus far. and hows that related with the games we had today and talk about in this LR thread, go back to bnet forums, seriously hope you get temp banned for this i see you crying everywhere whenever you have occasion
Because if you send a Protoss out, even if he wins, the other team is likely to send out a Terran on a TvP favored map. This is TEAM league, so planning out the potential player list is also important.
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Leenock is so cute and cuddly. A 9 on the cuteneness scale. Must be cool being gosu at Starcraft 2 at the age of 16. I want to hug him and dress him in outfits.
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So is this the Protoss that is supposed to be really good?
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1-1-1? It's a PvZ people.
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On August 12 2011 19:19 Vardant wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 19:17 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:12 SxYSpAz wrote:On August 12 2011 19:11 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 19:09 IgnE wrote:On August 12 2011 19:08 Emporio wrote: Sending Protoss in GSTL seems risky right now. Sure they might snipe a player, but it's basically an instant loss to a 1-1-1 the next game. You are a joke. How is it a joke? It's indeed risky, though the 1-1-1 isn't suitable for all maps so it's not as bad as in a Bo3 IMO. It's been held off once so far since the Up/Downs of last season, giving it over a 90% success rate so far. Sounds like the definition of risky to me. what player held this off in up/downs and how?!?! I said "since the Up/Downs". Genius held it off against Thorzain yesterday, though Thorzain messed up the engagement really badly, it still counts as holding it off, I suppose. It obviously doesn't count. If you botch a build and lose, it's all your fault.
Well, if that does happen today, we can see one of new Protoss blood and see how he handles it. Maybe after he gets killed, people may start to realise the problem
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