[GSL] Aug Code A RO16 Day 1 - Page 154

On August 11 2011 14:57 Emperor_Earth wrote:
DRG going to get 2-0'ed.

Time to show to the world for the fifth time how overrated he is.

On August 11 2011 18:09 sleepingdog wrote:


It is also more expensive than a marine. Your point?

On August 12 2011 00:15 tripper688 wrote:
wow, wake up and check the LR, find out that SC, DRG, and Tassadar all done. o_O. At least Ganzi won lol.

On August 11 2011 17:06 Tommylew wrote:
well done JYP!! SHame u got a PvT next Hopefully some new builds and timings willc ome out before then!!! Very good win vs DRG thought he d lose especially how DRG despatched the Protoss he met in the first round so easily!!!

On August 12 2011 00:18 RykuX wrote:


I'd recommend checking out JYP he had some amazing play game 2 especially you'd be pleasantly surprised! :D so awesome watch some GSTL from today to! :D

On August 11 2011 17:32 roymarthyup wrote:
i believe i have a build that is good at countering the 1/1/1 and have been using it the last 2weeks , and any protoss out there that thinks they are good enough at executing a terran 1/1/1 may feel free to PM me and you can battle me and see if your 1/1/1 can beat me


or if any tosses out there have a good terran friend to fight me, you can tell him to pm me and i can create a replay with us fighting


the build is a zero sentry build that gets 1 very fast voidray, 3-4 stalkers, and a fast robo (at about 5:30) because it cut sentrys it has enough gas to do all of this. the build ONLY gets 1 voidray, to scout, since marines without stim cannot catch a voidray. and i bring my stalkers with the voidray during the scouting mission so if he has a viking i can save the vray and know he got a super fast starport and is going 1/1/1

heres the build

9pylon (scout with probe)
2 chronoboosts on nexus
14gate
15gas
16pylon
17gas
chronoboost on nexus
19cyber

make stargate+stalker immediately after cyber is done. this allows the terran to scout the stargate, but guess what, who cares. i dont give a damn. let him scout it, he can stop doing a 1/1/1 if he scouts it and i feel at this point i can react properly to whatever he does


i poke his ramp with my first stalkers to see if he is fast expanding. if he is fast expanding i get a expansion too. because im not getting sentrys i go for a fast collossi if i scout plenty barracks. i get ONLY 1 voidray out of the stargate for nothing other than scouting purposes. the voidray in total costs 400/300, however since marines without stim cannot catch it i normally can kill 1 marine or scv or a depot at the 6 minute mark then run away and recharge shields which if you reduce that from the cost of the voidray that means the real cost of the voidray is like 300/300, and for its cost it has some power in combat but most importantly the voidray provides a full complete scout at the 6 minute mark (it reaches the terran base at 6 minutes) because you get it so fast

the voidray comes out at around 5:30 and i scout with it before the terran can have stim

the voidray+stalkers beats any fast rush the terran could do, and normally after 4-5 stalkers i stop and make mostly immortal+zealot and go for a fast collossi. the fast 2 gasses and no sentries gives lots of gas for a fast tech

On August 11 2011 18:10 Aquila- wrote:
Hm maybe the best response to 1-1-1 is doing also a 1-1-1 from the Protoss side. Like opening 1 gate robo, making an observer and scouting, seeing 1-1-1 and adding a stargate, going Zealot, Immortal, Phönix. Should hold the push easily no?

On August 11 2011 18:17 Kavas wrote:
I wish people won't just use one game as a reference to write-off ideas. If we only had game one of DRG vs JYP I'm sure many would have said storm drop wasn't viable either. In case anyone missed it, the same tactic in game 2 killed 34 drones (and then some).

Tassadar's choice to go phoenix first kept Terran in his base for the longest time and I feel his follow-up could have been better.

tl;dr
Please stop dismissing ideas after so few (1!!) game(s).

On August 11 2011 21:02 gehgrfhgrh wrote:
I hope this ridiculous DRG Hype stops now!

On August 11 2011 17:03 bennyaus wrote:


Indeed, that is probably the major issue with mass zealot, but otherwise it would crush the ground portion of the army. The issue with 1-1-1 is the amount of variables....
With or without cloak
With or without raven
With or without Stim (or Combat Shield)
...all of these can be stopped but require perfect scouting maybe because they require different responses.