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ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
August 11 2011 17:25 GMT
#3081
DANG! JYP fighting! I didn't think he had it in him (though i expected him to put up an incredible fight... the guy has performed like a BOSS in the ICCup Korean Weeklies!!)
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
August 11 2011 17:34 GMT
#3082
On August 12 2011 01:58 GreatHate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 18:17 Kavas wrote:
I wish people won't just use one game as a reference to write-off ideas. If we only had game one of DRG vs JYP I'm sure many would have said storm drop wasn't viable either. In case anyone missed it, the same tactic in game 2 killed 34 drones (and then some).

Tassadar's choice to go phoenix first kept Terran in his base for the longest time and I feel his follow-up could have been better.

tl;dr
Please stop dismissing ideas after so few (1!!) game(s).


lol. The ignorance. 1 game? Try 10,000+ This build has been around since the beta you terran apologist.



Terran apologist? Are we talking about WWII or Starcraft here?
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 18:53:52
August 11 2011 18:53 GMT
#3083
On August 12 2011 01:53 Jayrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 17:32 roymarthyup wrote:
i believe i have a build that is good at countering the 1/1/1 and have been using it the last 2weeks , and any protoss out there that thinks they are good enough at executing a terran 1/1/1 may feel free to PM me and you can battle me and see if your 1/1/1 can beat me


or if any tosses out there have a good terran friend to fight me, you can tell him to pm me and i can create a replay with us fighting


the build is a zero sentry build that gets 1 very fast voidray, 3-4 stalkers, and a fast robo (at about 5:30) because it cut sentrys it has enough gas to do all of this. the build ONLY gets 1 voidray, to scout, since marines without stim cannot catch a voidray. and i bring my stalkers with the voidray during the scouting mission so if he has a viking i can save the vray and know he got a super fast starport and is going 1/1/1

heres the build

9pylon (scout with probe)
2 chronoboosts on nexus
14gate
15gas
16pylon
17gas
chronoboost on nexus
19cyber

make stargate+stalker immediately after cyber is done. this allows the terran to scout the stargate, but guess what, who cares. i dont give a damn. let him scout it, he can stop doing a 1/1/1 if he scouts it and i feel at this point i can react properly to whatever he does


i poke his ramp with my first stalkers to see if he is fast expanding. if he is fast expanding i get a expansion too. because im not getting sentrys i go for a fast collossi if i scout plenty barracks. i get ONLY 1 voidray out of the stargate for nothing other than scouting purposes. the voidray in total costs 400/300, however since marines without stim cannot catch it i normally can kill 1 marine or scv or a depot at the 6 minute mark then run away and recharge shields which if you reduce that from the cost of the voidray that means the real cost of the voidray is like 300/300, and for its cost it has some power in combat but most importantly the voidray provides a full complete scout at the 6 minute mark (it reaches the terran base at 6 minutes) because you get it so fast

the voidray comes out at around 5:30 and i scout with it before the terran can have stim

the voidray+stalkers beats any fast rush the terran could do, and normally after 4-5 stalkers i stop and make mostly immortal+zealot and go for a fast collossi. the fast 2 gasses and no sentries gives lots of gas for a fast tech

When you show up to their base for your follow-up scouting to realize they are 2/3 rax expanding with stim half complete do you just leave?



i always get a robo at around 5:30 no matter what since its needed in almost all situations. the scouts good to see if the enemy is going super marine heavy, super marauder heavy, mix, 1/1/1, or possibly cloaked banshees or thors

if i scout tons and tons of marines and barracks (with no addons and no stim, just tons of marines and a expansion) i get out that faster bay for 1-2 collossi then i switch back into making immortals

if i scout your situation (3rax with add-ons stim almost done) i stop getting stalkers (get zealots instead) giving me enough gas to get a bay+immortal right there. i chronoboost out 2 immortals at around the time the bay completes (i drop the bay slightly after the first immortal, giving time for 2 chronoboosted immortals during the bays buildtime). then when bay is done i make a collossi and i use the gateway for zealots. after 1 collossi i usually stop production if i think the enemy is being aggressive and switch into making zealots+immortal+voidray from the 1/1/1 i have already. i start making voidrays again only after i have one collossi to help handle marines. with micro its more than do-able



if you wanna see how this reacts to a 3rax with addons / stim you can pm and play me anytime. use terran and go 3rax (which is a super easy thing to do) and ill do this
jakoh
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada237 Posts
August 11 2011 19:11 GMT
#3084
Why are people saying DRG is overrated? He took huge risks which didn't pay off. It's not like he was outplayed. He was out macroing JYP for a while after a failed 6 pool.
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
August 11 2011 19:26 GMT
#3085
On August 11 2011 15:57 klops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 15:55 Soulish wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:52 Emporio wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:51 Crazypyro1 wrote:
DRG got blind countered. Fucking hydras are so bad in PvZ. Shouldnt use them....

DRG didn't get blind countered -___-

DRG tried to blind counter and got owned.

Test me when I say hydras don't blind counter anything bur voids. Amove hydras barely win against amove stalkers of equal numbers, and when you factor in the extra gas, it's easy tosee that hydras suck shit.


you should spend more time playing and less time posting



sorry only low masters here, mind if you teach me pvz for a few games?
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
Frequencyy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States344 Posts
August 11 2011 19:26 GMT
#3086
Really surprised yoda defeated tassadar. Yoda is cool to watch but Tassadar is really good and the same with DRG I've never even HEARD of JYP.
You will not do incredible things without an incredible dream
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
August 11 2011 19:27 GMT
#3087
I think the game where DRG 6pooled was pretty well executed. While the 6 pool didn't kill off JYP, it completely ruined his game plan. The early lings were able to snipe the forge+a pylon. Made JYP produce more early zlots than he wanted to. Forced a cancel on a pylon, denied 2 mineral patches for a while. They also provided DRG with valuable scouting information up to the point where 2 extra gateways were dropped.

Meanwhile on DRG side, he got his natural all set up and droned up to a point where I consider him way ahead of the protoss.

If I am to criticize DRG's play, it is his somewhat slow 3rd. He got overlord speed and drop and did only a single round of baneling bomb on JYP's bold expo right beside DRG's main. He also seem to have overcommited to broodlords and missed a critical timing before the voidrays become a problem.

The game DRG lost on meta is not necessary due to his choice to go for the gold expo. I believe DRG blindly went for hydras while expecting stargates (I believe he spored all 3 bases). When colossi came and all you have are lings and hydras, it doesn't really matter where you placed your natural.
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
August 11 2011 19:27 GMT
#3088
On August 12 2011 02:34 Icekommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 01:58 GreatHate wrote:
On August 11 2011 18:17 Kavas wrote:
I wish people won't just use one game as a reference to write-off ideas. If we only had game one of DRG vs JYP I'm sure many would have said storm drop wasn't viable either. In case anyone missed it, the same tactic in game 2 killed 34 drones (and then some).

Tassadar's choice to go phoenix first kept Terran in his base for the longest time and I feel his follow-up could have been better.

tl;dr
Please stop dismissing ideas after so few (1!!) game(s).


lol. The ignorance. 1 game? Try 10,000+ This build has been around since the beta you terran apologist.



Terran apologist? Are we talking about WWII or Starcraft here?
Do you know what being an apologist even means?
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
August 11 2011 19:31 GMT
#3089
On August 12 2011 02:34 Icekommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 01:58 GreatHate wrote:
On August 11 2011 18:17 Kavas wrote:
I wish people won't just use one game as a reference to write-off ideas. If we only had game one of DRG vs JYP I'm sure many would have said storm drop wasn't viable either. In case anyone missed it, the same tactic in game 2 killed 34 drones (and then some).

Tassadar's choice to go phoenix first kept Terran in his base for the longest time and I feel his follow-up could have been better.

tl;dr
Please stop dismissing ideas after so few (1!!) game(s).


lol. The ignorance. 1 game? Try 10,000+ This build has been around since the beta you terran apologist.



Terran apologist? Are we talking about WWII or Starcraft here?


"Apologist" is a term that fits many contexts outside of WW2. Religion, Bieber, SC2. It's a useful term to add to the ole' vocab.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
August 11 2011 19:37 GMT
#3090
On August 12 2011 04:26 Soulish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 15:57 klops wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:55 Soulish wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:52 Emporio wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:51 Crazypyro1 wrote:
DRG got blind countered. Fucking hydras are so bad in PvZ. Shouldnt use them....

DRG didn't get blind countered -___-

DRG tried to blind counter and got owned.

Test me when I say hydras don't blind counter anything bur voids. Amove hydras barely win against amove stalkers of equal numbers, and when you factor in the extra gas, it's easy tosee that hydras suck shit.


you should spend more time playing and less time posting



sorry only low masters here, mind if you teach me pvz for a few games?


what extra gas was that dude talking about? don't hydras cost same gas but less minerals than stalkers?
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
August 11 2011 19:42 GMT
#3091
DRG killed himself by trying to 6 pool and go hydra/ling blind. He's good enough to win straight up as game 1 showed. Tal'darim can really suck in ZvP so I can maybe understand, but there was no excuse for metal except being sloppy/lazy.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
August 11 2011 20:01 GMT
#3092
DRG's play was really confusing. I really don't understand what he was thinking.

It looks like he was just dicking around games 2 and 3, trying to free-win game 2 and humiliate JYP game 3.

That's... annoying. Well, Smart's certainly a deserving Protoss, and I'm glad he advanced. I just wish DRG had not assumed that he would just advance to the up-and-downs by showing up in the name of the sAviOr, the Jaedong, and the holy July. Might have actually seen some good games.
Droning his sorrows in massive amounts of macro
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 22:11:50
August 11 2011 22:11 GMT
#3093
lol this harsh on GanZi is so bad by mt, his play was very highskilled overall
No carpal tunnel no skill
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
August 11 2011 23:21 GMT
#3094
John must be so proud his son is doing well in Code A!!!
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
August 11 2011 23:47 GMT
#3095
Fuck yeah tsl
MKP||TSL
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 12 2011 00:00 GMT
#3096
The english stream actually missed tons of actions in JYP vs DRG game 2. JYP drop DTs to kill the 4th, back to the third to drop HTs and kill a bunch of drones, went in the main to drop zealot and back to the third. There were lots of things they'd missed too, I just watch the Korean VODs, they seem doing much better job
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
August 12 2011 06:36 GMT
#3097
JYP vs. DRG was sick... and Moletrap says like a lot, damn.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 13 2011 00:15 GMT
#3098
Oh wow DongRaeGu vs JYP game 1 was so good, even when JYP was behind he made it look a lot closer.
The spice must flow
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
August 13 2011 02:56 GMT
#3099
On August 12 2011 02:01 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 21:02 gehgrfhgrh wrote:
I hope this ridiculous DRG Hype stops now!


Why is it ridiculous? There's nothing wrong with people admiring his games as long as he's playing well regularly enough and demonstrating the ability to rank higher.

Stop looking into results so much. Ten failed tournament runs in a row still won't make him a worse player than Kyrix for example.


No one thinks drg is worse than kyrix. But he is overhyped. People put him as the clear favorite against mma and mvp at mlg..like seriously? clear favorite vs a 2 time gsl champion. That's what I call hype.
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