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Its time to feel blessed, be happy, and enjoy starcraft 2 life. We're fortunate, remember that! SC2 fighting!
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 02:42:00
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4021
EDIT: garbage post, Mod delete please? <3
Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4022
Ba-Donka-Dong fighting!~
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4023
I liked it better when Julie told me things I already knew.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4024
About time!

Poor Nani.
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4025
I'm ready for our first foreigner upset. NANIWA FIGHTING!!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4026
I hope Naniwa is feeling better, Naniwa Fighting!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4027
Game one on Metalopolis

Dongraegu is located in the east

While Naniwa is in the west
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4028
I believe in you Naniwa!!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4029
Whoa, I totally missed that Col+MVP merger thing, wat.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4030
On July 30 2011 11:40 Joey Wheeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:36 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:34 Joey Wheeler wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:31 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:28 Joey Wheeler wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:26 Numy wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:25 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:23 Charger wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:22 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:16 Deadiam wrote:
[quote]

Wow ... sure ... he should try something that doesnt win him games, that makes perfect sense.

GG by Boxer, they were well played attacks and he used good timings.

Idra, stayed on lings to long IMO. Behind the hellion attacks Boxer was just massing a ball of marines which won in the end.

Did you see terrans doing bunker pressure all the time vs zergs in BW? How often for that matter do you see any cheese out of BW players? What i am saying is I personally would rather have him win other ways then these cheese/strong early game timings.


He's pressuring as he expands...do you have any clue how TvZ is supposed to be played and to a greater degree, how Starcraft is supposed to be played?

pretty sure on 2 base when bringing whole army he is looking to kill him because Idra did way overdrone or exchange armys, and i did not see a 3rd coming up for boxer and i am pretty sure that would be a early third if so.


There was a CC almost done by the time the push hit Idras base. I guess you weren't watching it. He needed to threaten and do some damage in order to secure his third. It just happened that he could kill Idra so he did.

Boxer had just lost a huge portion of his workers. Right after his heavy loss instead of refilling his worker count he puts down production facilities designed for that big push. In other words, it was a huge investment and he would have little to fall back on if it failed.

You mean nothing more than better tech and one more base than IdrA...10 workers down isn't that bad when you have mules lol

Boxer cut workers for the push
Idra continued to make workers

I think it's pretty clear that it fits the definition of cheese at that point: Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies in large parts on lack of information and/or psychological impact on the opponent.

IdrA saw the push coming...not so unexpected, and the build isn't weird at all, Hellion expands are a normal build lol. Not cheese.

There's a difference between seeing a push 2 seconds before it enters your base and seeing it before you fail to have the time to prepare for it. You also clearly misunderstood the "cheese" part.

1) boxer loses workers
2) boxer cuts workers to prepare for big push instead of refilling his worker count
3) boxer relies on denying idra any information to scout it


"Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies in large parts on lack of information and/or psychological impact on the opponent"

lmao i cut scvs late game and switch to battlecruisers late game TvT. my opponent doesn't scout it. oh looks like i just cheesed.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4031
oh man did nani see that drone move out?
Mvz
Profile Joined April 2003
206 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4032
hahaha baller
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4033
LOL DRG
WHAT
lalala
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4034
BALLERRR
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4035
EXPAND to gold base LIKE A BOSS
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Fuoeh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands486 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4036
GOLD GOLD!!!
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4037
On July 30 2011 11:40 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:40 Skyze wrote:
I wonder what would happen if IdrA was cloned, and played a ZvZ vs himself..

Do we get 100 pages worth of "OMG idra got cheesed" still?? Or do we get the standard "coinflip matchup" response?

ZvZ is imba Blizz needs to patch it.


Yea.. didnt IdrA once lose a ZvZ and say "zerg is so weak even Hydras beat it" or something?? lol
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4038
LMAO
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4039
DRG being a baller right away.
Love is more fun than hate.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#4040
On July 30 2011 11:39 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:38 Grettin wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:37 nweb wrote:
The retardedness in this thread is off the charts.


Welcome to livethread.


??? The BW ones are usually fine...


Well yeah, i was kinda referring to SC2 ones. Should've mentioned it!!!

AND GO DRG. GOLD FIRST!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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