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If infestors are "autowin" why would you not use them? You can be the combination of Flash and Jaedong but if you play with one hand and lose it's your own damn fault.
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Only thing I dislike about MLG is the downtime.
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germany kicked him out of the EPS so hes talking biased bullshit.unbelievable.
"just socke and thats it".
Socke wins against Sjow and Morrow.Hasu won the ESL Spain tournament where thorzain didnt win anything.Darkforce reached the NASL-Finals(won against Naniwa 2-0) and Goody is one of the best EU-Terrans as well.
nani, you are such an ignorant and arrogant asshole like you have always been when you played in Germany.
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On July 30 2011 11:15 Joey Wheeler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:13 jimjimchoi wrote:
Boxer the emperor whupping down commoners. Boxer plays starcraft with his brain, psychologically and strategically whupping his opponents If Starcraft 2 is about is about rock paper scissors and build order wins (eg. strategy), I don't know why I bother playing. User was warned for this post
Joey Wheeler, hm, somehow this post does not surprise me. Oh, and clearly some rage in the Brooklyn variety.
And man all the flame wars after the Idra and Boxer game. Seriously people calm down. Idra defended the first attack brilliantly so you cannot say he's playing like crap, Boxer has Idra's number. Boxer knows how to take down Idra and uses that. Idra has to come up with a counter.
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On July 30 2011 11:24 Applesmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:23 DystopiaX wrote:On July 30 2011 11:22 Applesmack wrote:On July 30 2011 11:22 NGrNecris wrote:On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too) all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines. lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units? I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that? Cheeses? Boxer didn't cheese once in that series, and you kind of have to do these early-mid game pushes against zerg to force them not to drone up heavily I consider hellion marine push to be cheesed, especially unscouted. Unscouted? So boxer's supposed to tell Idra to send an overlord into his base? not his fault. Also not cheese when you're expanding, stop overusing the word. I may be wrong, but cheese doesn't mean rush. There are still 2 bases cheeses...
He was on 3 base, and yes but pressure is not the same as cheese.
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Boxer did what he had to do to win!
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On July 30 2011 11:23 Pyre wrote:
Anyone else like saying, "Donraegu"? Kind of catching sound
I make it a point to say DongRaeGu as much as I possibly can.
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On July 30 2011 11:21 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:12 Dante08 wrote:
Idra fans should be banned from posting when he loses. Even losing to the emperor you guys complain. Seriously, this is just depressing What is with the emperor? he was a formidabble BW player, and now he is a mediocre SC 2 terran who won with a timing attack and a marine ball. of course, Idra shouldnt use this reactive baneling style
So many people dont respect the legends...Boxer is the reason this weekend EXISTS. Im just getting tired of great events like Boxer vs YellOw and seeing tons of comments like "LOL who are these noobs!!?! lets get a destiny vs spanishwa instead!!!11!"
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On July 30 2011 11:23 Charger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:22 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:16 Deadiam wrote:On July 30 2011 11:12 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:09 Sarang wrote:
It baffles my mind how anybody can hope BoxeR loses a tournament.
I mean, if he's up against your favourite player I can understand hoping he loses, but just hoping he loses in general?
I didn't even follow BW that closely and it disgusts me, I can't imagine how it makes you die-hard BW fans feel >.> I didn't watch any BW during boxer's time, but tbqh i would love to see things other then these atks all the time out of him vs zerg players. Wow ... sure ... he should try something that doesnt win him games, that makes perfect sense. GG by Boxer, they were well played attacks and he used good timings. Idra, stayed on lings to long IMO. Behind the hellion attacks Boxer was just massing a ball of marines which won in the end. Did you see terrans doing bunker pressure all the time vs zergs in BW? How often for that matter do you see any cheese out of BW players? What i am saying is I personally would rather have him win other ways then these cheese/strong early game timings. He's pressuring as he expands...do you have any clue how TvZ is supposed to be played and to a greater degree, how Starcraft is supposed to be played?
pretty sure on 2 base when bringing whole army he is looking to kill him because Idra did way overdrone or exchange armys, and i did not see a 3rd coming up for boxer and i am pretty sure that would be a early third if so.
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On July 30 2011 11:23 Charger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:22 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:16 Deadiam wrote:On July 30 2011 11:12 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:09 Sarang wrote:
It baffles my mind how anybody can hope BoxeR loses a tournament.
I mean, if he's up against your favourite player I can understand hoping he loses, but just hoping he loses in general?
I didn't even follow BW that closely and it disgusts me, I can't imagine how it makes you die-hard BW fans feel >.> I didn't watch any BW during boxer's time, but tbqh i would love to see things other then these atks all the time out of him vs zerg players. Wow ... sure ... he should try something that doesnt win him games, that makes perfect sense. GG by Boxer, they were well played attacks and he used good timings. Idra, stayed on lings to long IMO. Behind the hellion attacks Boxer was just massing a ball of marines which won in the end. Did you see terrans doing bunker pressure all the time vs zergs in BW? How often for that matter do you see any cheese out of BW players? What i am saying is I personally would rather have him win other ways then these cheese/strong early game timings. He's pressuring as he expands...do you have any clue how TvZ is supposed to be played and to a greater degree, how Starcraft is supposed to be played?
Rules of engagement pretty much. He played that soundly.
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On July 30 2011 11:23 NGrNecris wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:22 Rayansaki wrote:On July 30 2011 11:19 Vimsey wrote:On July 30 2011 11:18 Fyzar wrote:On July 30 2011 11:16 NGrNecris wrote:On July 30 2011 11:15 wo1fwood wrote:
It's too bad MLG won't be releasing these reps, I want to dissect Boxers build, like now! I thought MLG releases all the reps after the event is finished You have not been keeping up to date, they´re not anymore because of DDoS possibilities. I missed that how does putting up replays on a replay site affect DDoS possibilities wasn't ddos, but people were pulling the account's character code from the replays and spamming players and casters, and even if they were on busy it still lagged them. MLG had to use different accounts for every match on the last few of colombus. Sigh, some people just have to ruin it for the rest of us
Thanks I understand now, comes under why we cant have nice things.
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Go NaNiwa!! Crush DongRaeGu!
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It's not cheese, if you let the zerg go crazy on macro on that map it's easy to lose.
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On July 30 2011 11:23 Triscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:10 Talin wrote:On July 30 2011 11:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 30 2011 11:08 Kezzer wrote:On July 30 2011 11:07 marttorn wrote:Invent esports, like a boss Wear a leather jacket, like a boss still be competitive at the age of 30, like a boss 2-0 best north american zerg despite shoulder injury, like a boss Hadoken him, like a boss The only thing missing was BoxeR saying "bye grack" as he pushed up for the win. That would be BM though  not best american zerg He's by far the best American Zerg o.O That being said, IdrA was pretty silly for not making roaches or infestors. Not better than Sheth at all at this point. Sheth needs to do better in tournaments for anyone to consider him a better player than IdrA.
Or you can look at the actual games and see that Idra isn't playing better at all.
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Wow I failed to notice the awesomeness that is teamliquid.net/mlg
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On July 30 2011 11:22 Applesmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:22 NGrNecris wrote:On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too) all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines. lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units? I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that? Cheeses? Boxer didn't cheese once in that series, and you kind of have to do these early-mid game pushes against zerg to force them not to drone up heavily I consider hellion marine push to be cheesed, especially unscouted.
So it is Idra's fault for not correctly scouting and relying on coinflip drone timings.
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idra fanboys gon fanboy, its idra's fault for not having blings earlier, more roaches , powerdroned too hard....
Objectively i'd say its more of idra's loss than boxer's win
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On July 30 2011 11:22 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:16 Deadiam wrote:On July 30 2011 11:12 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:09 Sarang wrote:
It baffles my mind how anybody can hope BoxeR loses a tournament.
I mean, if he's up against your favourite player I can understand hoping he loses, but just hoping he loses in general?
I didn't even follow BW that closely and it disgusts me, I can't imagine how it makes you die-hard BW fans feel >.> I didn't watch any BW during boxer's time, but tbqh i would love to see things other then these atks all the time out of him vs zerg players. Wow ... sure ... he should try something that doesnt win him games, that makes perfect sense. GG by Boxer, they were well played attacks and he used good timings. Idra, stayed on lings to long IMO. Behind the hellion attacks Boxer was just massing a ball of marines which won in the end. Did you see terrans doing bunker pressure all the time vs zergs in BW? How often for that matter do you see any cheese out of BW players? What i am saying is I personally would rather have him win other ways then these cheese/strong early game timings.
You can't compare BW to SC2. People built anti-cheeses into their standard builds. Which is why cheese became less common. Most BW builds weren't optimal builds in the macro sense, but they covered more ground.
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Team Liquid being plugged on the MLG stream AWESOME
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On July 30 2011 11:25 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:24 Applesmack wrote:On July 30 2011 11:23 DystopiaX wrote:On July 30 2011 11:22 Applesmack wrote:On July 30 2011 11:22 NGrNecris wrote:On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too) all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines. lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units? I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that? Cheeses? Boxer didn't cheese once in that series, and you kind of have to do these early-mid game pushes against zerg to force them not to drone up heavily I consider hellion marine push to be cheesed, especially unscouted. Unscouted? So boxer's supposed to tell Idra to send an overlord into his base? not his fault. Also not cheese when you're expanding, stop overusing the word. I may be wrong, but cheese doesn't mean rush. There are still 2 bases cheeses... He was on 3 base, and yes but pressure is not the same as cheese.
attacking the zerg before you allow him to drone up and get 4 fully saturated bases is cheese you didn't know that?
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