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Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3741
Naniwa vs the Dong? Oh my gawd.

Also, I'm getting tired of Slasher. Just sayin'
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3742
On July 30 2011 11:22 snajper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by

just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too)

all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines.



lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units?

I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that?


Cheeses? He had his 3rd cc faster than Idra had his 3rd HATCH.


How is that cheese? Idra didn't play good enuff.


lol dont even try to explain it to Idra fanboys. You are wasting your time, sadly.
I've got moves like Jagger
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3743
On July 30 2011 11:23 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:22 Applesmack wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:22 NGrNecris wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by

just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too)

all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines.



lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units?

I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that?


Cheeses? Boxer didn't cheese once in that series, and you kind of have to do these early-mid game pushes against zerg to force them not to drone up heavily


I consider hellion marine push to be cheesed, especially unscouted.

Unscouted? So boxer's supposed to tell Idra to send an overlord into his base? not his fault.
Also not cheese when you're expanding, stop overusing the word.


I may be wrong, but cheese doesn't mean rush. There are still 2 bases cheeses...
Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 02:24:39
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3744
On July 30 2011 11:22 Applesmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:22 NGrNecris wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by

just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too)

all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines.



lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units?

I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that?


Cheeses? Boxer didn't cheese once in that series, and you kind of have to do these early-mid game pushes against zerg to force them not to drone up heavily


I consider hellion marine push to be cheesed, especially unscouted.



Cheese has nothing to do with scouting. Cheese is cheese, scouting or not. Both of Boxer's wins were "Timings/Timing Attacks" not cheese.
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3745
Can someone link me to the VOD information, or if its easier just tell me when/how I can access them?
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3746
On July 30 2011 11:22 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:16 Deadiam wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:12 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 Sarang wrote:
It baffles my mind how anybody can hope BoxeR loses a tournament.

I mean, if he's up against your favourite player I can understand hoping he loses, but just hoping he loses in general?

I didn't even follow BW that closely and it disgusts me, I can't imagine how it makes you die-hard BW fans feel >.>

I didn't watch any BW during boxer's time, but tbqh i would love to see things other then these atks all the time out of him vs zerg players.


Wow ... sure ... he should try something that doesnt win him games, that makes perfect sense.

GG by Boxer, they were well played attacks and he used good timings.

Idra, stayed on lings to long IMO. Behind the hellion attacks Boxer was just massing a ball of marines which won in the end.

Did you see terrans doing bunker pressure all the time vs zergs in BW? How often for that matter do you see any cheese out of BW players? What i am saying is I personally would rather have him win other ways then these cheese/strong early game timings.


I'd take a Boxer victory anyday under any condition.
MandoRelease
Profile Joined October 2010
France374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 02:25:15
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3747
Whenever Idra plays, LR threads become harmful to health.
Idra fans, Idra haters, and plain idiots just need to say things to stir up upset/anger from other people.

Idra lost. It happens. Let's leave it at and say ggs to Boxer.

EDIT : I did not like these games though.
When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. Huge IMLosirA fan.
thepeonwhocould
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia334 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3748
OMG SONG TITLE PLZ SOMEONE I NEED TO KNOW!! i think its in a guitar hero game...
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3749
On July 30 2011 11:23 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:22 NGrNecris wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by

just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too)

all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines.



lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units?

I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that?


Cheeses? Boxer didn't cheese once in that series, and you kind of have to do these early-mid game pushes against zerg to force them not to drone up heavily

first game blue flame hellion/marine/medivac, same thing next game, and I could be wrong but first game vs Idra in NASL he 2 rax'd. I am saying I would like to see different things when he plays vs a zerg.

Yeah...Blue flame/marine/medivac into an expansion.

Or it would've if IdrA could hold simple pressure.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3750
On July 30 2011 11:22 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:16 Deadiam wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:12 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 Sarang wrote:
It baffles my mind how anybody can hope BoxeR loses a tournament.

I mean, if he's up against your favourite player I can understand hoping he loses, but just hoping he loses in general?

I didn't even follow BW that closely and it disgusts me, I can't imagine how it makes you die-hard BW fans feel >.>

I didn't watch any BW during boxer's time, but tbqh i would love to see things other then these atks all the time out of him vs zerg players.


Wow ... sure ... he should try something that doesnt win him games, that makes perfect sense.

GG by Boxer, they were well played attacks and he used good timings.

Idra, stayed on lings to long IMO. Behind the hellion attacks Boxer was just massing a ball of marines which won in the end.

Did you see terrans doing bunker pressure all the time vs zergs in BW? How often for that matter do you see any cheese out of BW players? What i am saying is I personally would rather have him win other ways then these cheese/strong early game timings.


did you even follow bw? cheese happens all the fucking time. lets just play NR20 games where you let the zerg take 4 bases a-move and call it great macro/skill. stop complaining.
snajper
Profile Joined July 2011
48 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3751
On July 30 2011 11:22 Applesmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:22 NGrNecris wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by

just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too)

all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines.



lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units?

I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that?


Cheeses? Boxer didn't cheese once in that series, and you kind of have to do these early-mid game pushes against zerg to force them not to drone up heavily


I consider hellion marine push to be cheesed, especially unscouted.


I consider lack of scouting, and bad decision making to be a BAD PLAY. ( Not to mention idra had overlord by the Boxers base both games, and didn't scout his base not even once. )
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3752
On July 30 2011 11:22 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:16 Deadiam wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:12 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 Sarang wrote:
It baffles my mind how anybody can hope BoxeR loses a tournament.

I mean, if he's up against your favourite player I can understand hoping he loses, but just hoping he loses in general?

I didn't even follow BW that closely and it disgusts me, I can't imagine how it makes you die-hard BW fans feel >.>

I didn't watch any BW during boxer's time, but tbqh i would love to see things other then these atks all the time out of him vs zerg players.


Wow ... sure ... he should try something that doesnt win him games, that makes perfect sense.

GG by Boxer, they were well played attacks and he used good timings.

Idra, stayed on lings to long IMO. Behind the hellion attacks Boxer was just massing a ball of marines which won in the end.

Did you see terrans doing bunker pressure all the time vs zergs in BW? How often for that matter do you see any cheese out of BW players? What i am saying is I personally would rather have him win other ways then these cheese/strong early game timings.


no rush 20
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 02:24:59
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3753
whoops bad copy
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3754
when will next game strat?
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
WhiteraCares
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden339 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3755
Why are there no postgame interviews!? >: (
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
July 30 2011 02:24 GMT
#3756
i hope naniwa calmed down a bit and can play amazing against drg!
noezke
Profile Joined September 2010
England514 Posts
July 30 2011 02:25 GMT
#3757
On July 30 2011 11:22 Applesmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:22 NGrNecris wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by

just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too)

all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines.



lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units?

I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that?


Cheeses? Boxer didn't cheese once in that series, and you kind of have to do these early-mid game pushes against zerg to force them not to drone up heavily


I consider hellion marine push to be cheesed, especially unscouted.


lol.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
pigfat
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia141 Posts
July 30 2011 02:25 GMT
#3758
DAMIT missed boxers games
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
July 30 2011 02:25 GMT
#3759
On July 30 2011 11:24 Applesmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:23 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:22 Applesmack wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:22 NGrNecris wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by

just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too)

all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines.



lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units?

I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that?


Cheeses? Boxer didn't cheese once in that series, and you kind of have to do these early-mid game pushes against zerg to force them not to drone up heavily


I consider hellion marine push to be cheesed, especially unscouted.

Unscouted? So boxer's supposed to tell Idra to send an overlord into his base? not his fault.
Also not cheese when you're expanding, stop overusing the word.


I may be wrong, but cheese doesn't mean rush. There are still 2 bases cheeses...

Well, you are wrong, that was not cheese. Cheese do not involve CCs.
Drteeth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Great Britain415 Posts
July 30 2011 02:25 GMT
#3760
On July 30 2011 11:23 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 11:22 NGrNecris wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:19 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:15 freerolll wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:09 oogieogie wrote:
On July 30 2011 11:05 Xercen wrote:
even code B > idra....damn i'm a big idra fan and thought boxer was on a slump but clearly not a very big slump if those 2 games were anything to go by

just saying but so far 3 games out of 4 was boxer either cheesing or using a super strong atk on any zerg player (blue flame hellions and marines with medivac vs zerglings/queens/spines gl defending it, and i am counting the NASL games too)

all i know is idra should have played safer and got roachs because mutas don't work vs marines.



lol so do you want boxer to not get the counter units?

I am saying i don't want to see these timings or cheeses all the time which boxer seems to always be doing. Also did you not see the point about me saying Idra to get roachs or you skip that?


Cheeses? Boxer didn't cheese once in that series, and you kind of have to do these early-mid game pushes against zerg to force them not to drone up heavily

first game blue flame hellion/marine/medivac, same thing next game, and I could be wrong but first game vs Idra in NASL he 2 rax'd. I am saying I would like to see different things when he plays vs a zerg.


Why? It wins ... play to win when it's your living.
Nice cheese ....GG!
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