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Sennap
Profile Joined December 2010
Iceland88 Posts
July 27 2011 23:57 GMT
#521
Gogo Destiny! ^^

He played those games very well, and still has some room for improvement!

ggwp congrats
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
July 27 2011 23:57 GMT
#522
On July 28 2011 08:56 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:53 kedinik wrote:
So.

+ Show Spoiler +
Destiny beats Ace, Bomber and Rain.

Has also been going out of his way to be really mannered lately in public games, I think.

Maybe this guy can get a little respect now.

add HuK and Puzzle to that list too

I think it is just the mass Infestor play that stops people from giving him too much credit, and I'll admit I have that feeling somewhat as well.


i know his infestor play is good but to just make all these top players look silly by going the same build every single game is just not right.
Zinthar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States394 Posts
July 27 2011 23:57 GMT
#523
On July 28 2011 08:54 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:52 Xanarial wrote:
Destiny playing like a baws, as per usual. Eventually people will come to terms with the fact that he is a top class player, eventually...


Lmao he's not though, he's an above average pro, he just literally makes infestors, techs to broodlords, and turtles, and beats players like Puzzle who play 14 hours a day. That's the frustrating part. People need to learn to hard counter him.


Puzzle went pretty much all-in vs. Destiny, and he defended well, primarily with ling/roach. Against that type of pressure teching to infestors when you have an economic advantage is the most logical choice because they're great at defending strong gateway pushes.

Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
July 27 2011 23:58 GMT
#524
On July 28 2011 08:52 figq wrote:
I think Destiny will admit that this 5th game had many many holes in execution, but that's not important - he proved his point that such kind of strategy could be successful, especially if very high level players experiment with it. Me, I think the infestor-vs-viking battles look a bit inefficient, but ok.



I would say sure, WP GG even if it was a lower level game, except Rain needed to be using EMP. The like (3)? he landed were too little, too late, and didn't hit. If he bothered to even try to do that (he had many oppourtunities) he would have rolled the broods and that would have been GG many times over.

I just can't get over why he kept taking full energy ghost with cloak into a pile of 8-10 infestors and instead of getting rid of all there energy, so he could actually do something, he instead tried to snipe them off, only to get fungaled. I wish Rain would have played that simple part proper would have made for a much better win/game in my mind.
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akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
July 27 2011 23:58 GMT
#525
On July 28 2011 08:56 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:52 akalarry wrote:
watching this game is like watching colossus/stalker/sentry vs roach/hydra

pros should know how to adapt and learn. it's not rocket science or anything. does he REALLY think vikings can counter infestor/brood lord and can get ghosts 25 min into the game.

You've been talking alot about these ghosts, how about sharing some replays/VODs where ghosts dominate?

Whenever I see terrans get ghosts, they end up largely ineffective or not worth the cost. Might as well spam vikings/marines at their army and hope it breaks instead. Some terran pros I've heard say ghosts aren't really that effective of an counter, since they get easily sniped by fungals and BL fire.

Also tbh I would be interested in learning ghost use. Currently I can't pull it off at all.


even if terran gets ghosts, i still think zerg is way stronger.

but how can you NOT get ghosts in that situation?????????? that's my point. not that ghosts would be op against that composition

just think about it.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
July 27 2011 23:58 GMT
#526
Wow, so many terran tears.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 27 2011 23:58 GMT
#527
On July 28 2011 08:56 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:52 akalarry wrote:
watching this game is like watching colossus/stalker/sentry vs roach/hydra

pros should know how to adapt and learn. it's not rocket science or anything. does he REALLY think vikings can counter infestor/brood lord and can get ghosts 25 min into the game.

You've been talking alot about these ghosts, how about sharing some replays/VODs where ghosts dominate?

Whenever I see terrans get ghosts, they end up largely ineffective or not worth the cost. Might as well spam vikings/marines at their army and hope it breaks instead. Some terran pros I've heard say ghosts aren't really that effective of an counter, since they get easily sniped by fungals and BL fire.

Also tbh I would be interested in learning ghost use. Currently I can't pull it off at all.

Byun vs Zenio in GSL March on Terminus RE (not the most recent one). Byun had some good ghost play vs infestors, ultras, etc...

Destiny, himself, is saying ghosts are really good right now
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Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 23:58:59
July 27 2011 23:58 GMT
#528
On July 28 2011 08:57 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:55 Odal wrote:
On July 28 2011 08:54 Heavenly wrote:
On July 28 2011 08:52 Xanarial wrote:
Destiny playing like a baws, as per usual. Eventually people will come to terms with the fact that he is a top class player, eventually...


Lmao he's not though, he just literally makes infestors, techs to broodlords, and turtles, and beats players like Puzzle who play 14 hours a day. That's the frustrating part. People need to learn to hard counter him.


Yeah, and that nestea guy. Always makes zerglings and mutalisks in zvt! That's frustrating part. People need to learn to hard counter him.


Yeah, because you can compare Destiny and the best player in the world! Because they're so amazing and flawless!

Woosh.
I'm saying just because one person has a style or uses certain units doesn't mean they are bad or simply gimmicky players. Is Losira bad because he almost always uses a ton of banelings? Is MC bad because his style relies heavily on sentries? Is huk bad because he uses a shit ton of blink stalkers?
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
July 28 2011 00:00 GMT
#529
The last game destiny vs rain was pretty sick actually. Ive played a lot of TvZ and i know how hard it can be to play vs lings/roachs/infestor/brood. I felt how Rain was struggling a lot that last game and destiny was pretty out of minerals and just came back. That just amazed me how fast he came back and turned the game in his advance. That last game woow gj
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 28 2011 00:00 GMT
#530
On July 28 2011 08:58 Odal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:57 Heavenly wrote:
On July 28 2011 08:55 Odal wrote:
On July 28 2011 08:54 Heavenly wrote:
On July 28 2011 08:52 Xanarial wrote:
Destiny playing like a baws, as per usual. Eventually people will come to terms with the fact that he is a top class player, eventually...


Lmao he's not though, he just literally makes infestors, techs to broodlords, and turtles, and beats players like Puzzle who play 14 hours a day. That's the frustrating part. People need to learn to hard counter him.


Yeah, and that nestea guy. Always makes zerglings and mutalisks in zvt! That's frustrating part. People need to learn to hard counter him.


Yeah, because you can compare Destiny and the best player in the world! Because they're so amazing and flawless!

Woosh.
I'm saying just because one person has a style or uses certain units doesn't mean they are bad or simply gimmicky players. Is Losira bad because he almost always uses a ton of banelings? Is MC bad because his style relies heavily on sentries? Is huk bad because he uses a shit ton of blink stalkers?

None of those players use the same build every game in 2 different matchups
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
July 28 2011 00:00 GMT
#531
What was the final score?
no dude, the question
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 28 2011 00:01 GMT
#532
You have to do it at LAN's. Clearly Destiny has improved a hell of a lot, but if you don't perform at LAN's it doesn't mean anything. If he makes it through the open bracket we'll have something to talk about.

Right now though Idra, Slush, Sheth, Machine have more results than him easilly as NA Zergs.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 28 2011 00:01 GMT
#533
On July 28 2011 09:00 ZaaaaaM wrote:
What was the final score?


3-2 for destiny
Skydancer
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 00:03:32
July 28 2011 00:01 GMT
#534
Destiny is really strong but he almost play every game the same way...

If he'll show that he can play also different style game i think that he can reach a final of some premium tournament, but actually i want to see him in a tournament where some gosu korean (no Rain is not a gosu korean) play him in a BO5, i'm very corious to see what he can do vs player like MMA, MC Donraegu etc..

Fortunally that will happen soon at MLG! :-D

Edit : This caster is soo good and fun to listen! His music is > of K-Pop!
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XiVol
Profile Joined September 2010
Wales74 Posts
July 28 2011 00:02 GMT
#535
On July 28 2011 09:01 lunchforthesky wrote:
You have to do it at LAN's. Clearly Destiny has improved a hell of a lot, but if you don't perform at LAN's it doesn't mean anything. If he makes it through the open bracket we'll have something to talk about.

Right now though Idra, Slush, Sheth, Machine have more results than him easilly as NA Zergs.

He just won a LAN a few days ago

But admittedly, it wasn't a really big event.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
July 28 2011 00:02 GMT
#536
Destiny final score was lower than rains when he won. IMO take away burrow movement from Infestors and they should be fine. That mass infested terran is kind of bs too.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 28 2011 00:02 GMT
#537
On July 28 2011 08:54 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:52 Xanarial wrote:
Destiny playing like a baws, as per usual. Eventually people will come to terms with the fact that he is a top class player, eventually...


Lmao he's not though, he's an above average pro, he just literally makes infestors, techs to broodlords, and turtles, and beats players like Puzzle who play 14 hours a day. That's the frustrating part. People need to learn to hard counter him.

You know the funny part. Destiny probably plays more per day then most Korean pros.
r4pture
Profile Joined May 2011
United States397 Posts
July 28 2011 00:02 GMT
#538
Amazingly played by Destiny. Add Rain to the list of top tier koreans Stevens beaten, and watch people continue to not give him credit.
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13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
July 28 2011 00:02 GMT
#539
On July 28 2011 08:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:56 Bagi wrote:
On July 28 2011 08:52 akalarry wrote:
watching this game is like watching colossus/stalker/sentry vs roach/hydra

pros should know how to adapt and learn. it's not rocket science or anything. does he REALLY think vikings can counter infestor/brood lord and can get ghosts 25 min into the game.

You've been talking alot about these ghosts, how about sharing some replays/VODs where ghosts dominate?

Whenever I see terrans get ghosts, they end up largely ineffective or not worth the cost. Might as well spam vikings/marines at their army and hope it breaks instead. Some terran pros I've heard say ghosts aren't really that effective of an counter, since they get easily sniped by fungals and BL fire.

Also tbh I would be interested in learning ghost use. Currently I can't pull it off at all.

Byun vs Zenio in GSL March on Terminus RE (not the most recent one). Byun had some good ghost play vs infestors, ultras, etc...

Destiny, himself, is saying ghosts are really good right now


Byun lost that match. He played well, but it didn't matter.
and my axe
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 28 2011 00:03 GMT
#540
On July 28 2011 09:01 lunchforthesky wrote:
You have to do it at LAN's. Clearly Destiny has improved a hell of a lot, but if you don't perform at LAN's it doesn't mean anything. If he makes it through the open bracket we'll have something to talk about.

Right now though Idra, Slush, Sheth, Machine have more results than him easilly as NA Zergs.


right now the zergs I'd think are clearly better in USA are idra, sheth, vibe. I'd put my money on destiny vs the rest.. though maybe not specifically in zvz, just being better at the other matchups. maybe zvz too though lol
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