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ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
July 09 2011 01:04 GMT
#13801
On July 09 2011 09:59 BlackW0lf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 09:50 ribboo wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:47 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:45 ribboo wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:40 ribboo wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:35 Irave wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:34 Alzadar wrote:
What is this hour long break for?

Autograph sessions people getting food stretching. People in this thread should take advantage of it instead of complaining about it.

yes lots of important stuff going on 02:40 am

Take a nap. You knew this tournament was going to be at a horrible time for you.

5 am or 7-8 am is a big difference, i knew i would be able to watch MC/boxer, now I know i cant, and that sux

Well I had the same exact problems during DreamHack. It all just comes down to where you live. Its going to be at a terrible time for someone, no matter when it is on.

and if you felt like complaining at DH being 2h late and then taking breaks at that, I would not have complained. huge mess ups like this aren't acceptable in sports, why should we accept it? this I even payed for.
Let me understand this right... So you say that its ok for company of lets say 1000 or well even 10 to go to lunch or to any other break at same time?

I still wonder how the heck is E-sports ever gonna grow above being BS minority crap when the quality of all these tournaments are like this. Huge caps here and there people needing to watch ebless blanck screens and listen to BS music. Have yo ever watched for example golf or so? They put people on the track at different times and if they have nothing to show they at least play some records or something for people to watch. I wanna see any major sports event where people are forced to watch blank screen with music for hour or more just cause some players are eating. Rofl!! That sport would be out of TV pretty fast. Same goes for E-sports... As long as every tournament is this same s*t I should stay away.... I still wonder why did I even bother to come to watch this thinking it might be something better when I knew it would not.

u either read my message wrong, quoted me wrong or ur stupid, im quite sure its 1 or 2.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 09 2011 01:04 GMT
#13802
LOL sen
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 01:05:43
July 09 2011 01:04 GMT
#13803
On July 09 2011 10:04 Scila wrote:
Just tuned in, that player intro is frigging awesome.

Soon the highlight reel kicks in, you are in for a treat. In the same way Sisyphos was in for a treat when he was condemned to roll a boulder up and down a hill for all eternity.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
July 09 2011 01:04 GMT
#13804
On July 09 2011 10:02 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 09:52 Bobster wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:50 SuperFanBoy wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:47 Bobster wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:46 Akash1223 wrote:
In starcraft "Korean" means living and training in Korea. For evidence just look at the 13 "Korean" invites for TSL3.
"Korean" means being from Korea, not living in Korea. "Korean" means being able to play for Korea in a nationwar.

You can't just make up your own rules.

TLO is not a Swede, Dirk Nowitzki is not American, Lionel Messi is not Spanish.


Yes but Huk's success should be credited to him living in korea... Huk is the only real foreign pro gamer because hes living with the oGs crew and practicing like them, the koreans are a level above everyone else not because they are genetically better, but rather they are better because of the way they live and practice to be a pro gamer.

Oh yes, I 100% agree. Huk's practice environment in the oGs house definitely is the primary factor for the success of this Canadian in the Korean scene and in Europe.


You're being too literal and either deliberately misunderstanding the argument or just not get it.

We're not talking about nationality, I don't know why you're insisting on it.

This whole argument popped up in the first place because people were naming HuK as an example of a non-Korean winning tournaments - which may be factually true (hence you can abuse this so much as an argument ). But it is in fact deceptive when used as an argument for the success and skill level of non-Korean players.

HuK is currently not the representative of the foreign scene in Korea, he's a representative of the Korean scene in the west (just as much as MC, Moon and July are, no more and no less). This is the whole point we're trying to make here.

No, nobody thinks he's genetically, nationally or culturally Korean. We're talking about Starcraft here.
And I agree with all of that. It's just when people call him "Korean" - which is obviously the label used to denote the nationality of a person - that I object and hope people can adopt proper terminology instead.


Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
July 09 2011 01:04 GMT
#13805
On July 09 2011 10:04 ZidaneTribal wrote:
i love zenio in that intro

Me too! He looks awesome, as well as MC and Whitera.
o choro é livre
Crumpet
Profile Joined May 2011
United States137 Posts
July 09 2011 01:04 GMT
#13806
Does it really matter whether players are foreigners or Korean? I mean I'm all for rooting for whomever you please, but this tournament is about starcraft at the highest level, performed by the best players. Sit back and enjoy...whenever they get started again.
"Because boy bands are no match for fucking missiles." Day9
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
July 09 2011 01:04 GMT
#13807
lol sen
fuck lag
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 01:05:49
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13808
Can't tell if the echo is an effect, or if the audio's fucked up...

Edit: Ok then, definitely echo.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13809
haha. love sen
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Kinch
Profile Joined August 2010
United States258 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13810
Echo o o o o o
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13811
lol never saw that before. baller :D
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13812
On July 09 2011 10:04 InvalidID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 10:01 Malgrif wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:59 InvalidID wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:58 SargonTheGreat wrote:
what about sen is he a foreign player? he's taiwanese right? not korean. Does that make him a foreign player or what?


He is a Chinese player, who plays a lot of foreign tournaments. You don't see much of the Chinese players, but they are really really strong. Tons of them are high ranked on the Korean ladder, and they had a very strong showing in StarsWars tourney. Because they are generally not well integrated to the foreign scene I would consider them separate.

sen is a foreigner. not chinese. foreigner doesn't mean white, it means anyone outside of korea. >_> <_< v_v


My point was that that it is not really a very sensical way to divide things. You have three very distinct Starcraft 2 scenes: China, Korea, and NA/EU/SA. China's scene seems to be rivaling Koreas in terms of player quality, but not publicity.


China rivals Korean in player quality? We talking ping pong or sc2 here?
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13813
Is there an echo in here in here in here in here.......
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13814
Seeeeeen!! :D
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13815
ECCCHOOOOO
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13816
NASL, the king of not watching their videos after rendering is complete
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13817
LOL love the sound
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
LeLeech
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom211 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13818
echo wow.
LoL stream: ~190k viewers. SC2 stream: ~85k viewers. Really Blizzard?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13819
On July 09 2011 10:02 Lewan72 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 09:23 Irave wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:19 HelloxD wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:16 Jibba wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:13 itsTheSituatioN wrote:
although the production hasn't been perfect, i think the games have been really fun to watch. that alone makes the event more exciting thus far than IPL or TSL.

It's been a bunch of domination by Code A players. How is it possibly comparable to TSL or IPL?


are you saying july a broodwar legend a noob?
are you saying boxer the 1st bonjwa a noob?
are you saying moon the best wc3 ( hehe ) player a noob?
are you saying alive the no.1 on korean ladder a noob?
are you saying zenio a code s player a code a player?
are you saying mc a noob?
are you saying special taktiks is a noob??

It can be compared to IPL because the gameplay lvl is higher ( everybody knows )

Reread what was wrote. Boxer, MC, White-ra and Alive have yet to play. They may not have been noobs in the last games they have played. But they are infact code a or lower.


MC code S u noob

Please read the entire thing before posting your one liner.
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
July 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#13820
Must the Huk is Korean argument come up in every thread now -_-. Obviously no one thinks Huk is actually Korean. Just that his success (like Jinro's success months back) is a product of Korean training. It's not that hard to fucking understand.
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