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Vitamins
Profile Joined October 2010
United States680 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13761
HasuOrb software
Culture
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13762
White-Ra is our only hope
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13763
Not only is Zenio Korean, his name is listed second in the match up. There's no hope for Sen
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
Dark Stalker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
102 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13764
On July 09 2011 09:58 SargonTheGreat wrote:
what about sen is he a foreign player? he's taiwanese right? not korean. Does that make him a foreign player or what?


Getting sick of the whether or not Huk is Korean debate. Can we start one about whether Sen can be called a Taiwanese because China doesn't consider Taiwan a country?
Arccotangent
Profile Joined October 2010
519 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13765
On July 09 2011 10:01 labbe wrote:
Soooo just got in... Why is the tournament 2 Hours behind schedule?

2 hour initial delay due to projector/equipment issues.
"Taste the zombie's drug, now you want more."
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13766
No seriously its really fuckin obvious that when people call a blatantly pasty white dude like Huk that he is korean they are not talking about his nationality. If you dont understand this by now then you have no hope.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13767
Korea is dominating this tournament
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
Worldatlarge
Profile Joined June 2011
United States649 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13768
On July 09 2011 10:00 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 09:57 Bobster wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:54 AndAgain wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:50 Bobster wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:48 AndAgain wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:47 Bobster wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:46 Akash1223 wrote:
In starcraft "Korean" means living and training in Korea. For evidence just look at the 13 "Korean" invites for TSL3.
"Korean" means being from Korea, not living in Korea.

You can't just make up your own rules.

TLO is not a Swede, Dirk Nowitzki is not American, Lionel Messi is not Spanish.


In English speaking countries, sometimes words are used to mean things other than their literal definition. May be it's different in Germany.

How do you call a Korean being eligible to play for Korea in a Starcraft II nationwar?

Korean?

That meaning overrides your meaning applied to people not from Korea currently living in Korea.

TLO is not a Swede, Dirk Nowitzki is not American, Lionel Messi is not Spanish.


The same word can mean different things in different contexts.

It's easier to avoid these disambiguities in the first place. Luckily, there is no need to use these words ambiguously, because we have perfectly acceptable alternatives, denoting both the nationality of a player, and the server he plays on.

Huk is a Canadian playing on the Korean server. My sentence is much clearer than your sentence and provides more information. Hence, I'd consider it the better, and more correct way to talk about a player.


Ok, fair enough. However, when someone calls Huk a Korean, it's obvious that it's referencing his training environment rather than his nationality. Again, it's a matter of context.


Imagine if people said Korean-Style Player instead of Korean Player, just think of the arguments that could be avoided. In a perfect world...
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13769
On July 09 2011 10:01 labbe wrote:
Soooo just got in... Why is the tournament 2 Hours behind schedule?

They had a problem with a projector.
o choro é livre
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13770
On July 09 2011 09:23 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 09:19 HelloxD wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:16 Jibba wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:13 itsTheSituatioN wrote:
although the production hasn't been perfect, i think the games have been really fun to watch. that alone makes the event more exciting thus far than IPL or TSL.

It's been a bunch of domination by Code A players. How is it possibly comparable to TSL or IPL?


are you saying july a broodwar legend a noob?
are you saying boxer the 1st bonjwa a noob?
are you saying moon the best wc3 ( hehe ) player a noob?
are you saying alive the no.1 on korean ladder a noob?
are you saying zenio a code s player a code a player?
are you saying mc a noob?
are you saying special taktiks is a noob??

It can be compared to IPL because the gameplay lvl is higher ( everybody knows )


They're still in Code A. Except Zenio. Calm down, go do some squats.


MC code S u noob..
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
Exxmo
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany13 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13771
haha i like how even the commercials dont even work as they should.. delayed or no sound :-)
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13772
Oh, look, a non-commercial. I'll be sure to non-buy their non-products.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13773
Hasu Orb BR. Now it all makes sense!
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13774
On July 09 2011 09:23 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 09:19 HelloxD wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:16 Jibba wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:13 itsTheSituatioN wrote:
although the production hasn't been perfect, i think the games have been really fun to watch. that alone makes the event more exciting thus far than IPL or TSL.

It's been a bunch of domination by Code A players. How is it possibly comparable to TSL or IPL?


are you saying july a broodwar legend a noob?
are you saying boxer the 1st bonjwa a noob?
are you saying moon the best wc3 ( hehe ) player a noob?
are you saying alive the no.1 on korean ladder a noob?
are you saying zenio a code s player a code a player?
are you saying mc a noob?
are you saying special taktiks is a noob??

It can be compared to IPL because the gameplay lvl is higher ( everybody knows )

Reread what was wrote. Boxer, MC, White-ra and Alive have yet to play. They may not have been noobs in the last games they have played. But they are infact code a or lower.


MC code S u noob
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
Kamuy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13775
I hope PoopFeast420 is there to meet his friend Artosis and give him a hug.
HuK | MC | Naniwa | White-Ra | KiWiKaKi | I love protoss :D
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 01:03:32
July 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#13776
On July 09 2011 09:52 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 09:50 SuperFanBoy wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:47 Bobster wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:46 Akash1223 wrote:
In starcraft "Korean" means living and training in Korea. For evidence just look at the 13 "Korean" invites for TSL3.
"Korean" means being from Korea, not living in Korea. "Korean" means being able to play for Korea in a nationwar.

You can't just make up your own rules.

TLO is not a Swede, Dirk Nowitzki is not American, Lionel Messi is not Spanish.


Yes but Huk's success should be credited to him living in korea... Huk is the only real foreign pro gamer because hes living with the oGs crew and practicing like them, the koreans are a level above everyone else not because they are genetically better, but rather they are better because of the way they live and practice to be a pro gamer.

Oh yes, I 100% agree. Huk's practice environment in the oGs house definitely is the primary factor for the success of this Canadian in the Korean scene and in Europe.


You're being too literal and either deliberately misunderstanding the argument or just not get it.

We're not talking about nationality, I don't know why you're insisting on it.

This whole argument popped up in the first place because people were naming HuK as an example of a non-Korean winning tournaments - which may be factually true (hence you can abuse this so much as an argument ). But it is in fact deceptive when used as an argument for the success and skill level of non-Korean players.

HuK is currently not the representative of the foreign scene in Korea, he's a representative of the Korean scene in the west (just as much as MC, Moon and July are, no more and no less). This is the whole point we're trying to make here.

No, nobody thinks he's genetically, nationally or culturally Korean. We're talking about Starcraft here.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
July 09 2011 01:03 GMT
#13777
On July 09 2011 10:01 GrungyMunchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 09:38 Bobster wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:37 Talin wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:34 Yemack wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:32 jyLee wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:31 namedplayer wrote:
On July 09 2011 09:29 Frequencyy wrote:
select is technically not a korean, his ethnicity is korean but he does not train with them he trains on NA server and is on a foreign team (dignitas) I would hardly consider him korean as a player. The amount of whiners on the stream is ridiculous obviously the event is not going to be perfect their first time ever doing a live event especially on the first day, MLG isn't even perfect and they've been doing it for what...6 years ? I'm sure the next two days will have fantastic production value though. Nasl ftw.


um.. so you consider HuK Korean?


Actually even korean netizens consider Huk to be a korean gamer so yes I think its fair to say so.


really? that's a news to me. And I vist playXP time to time.

from what I've seen Huk is regarded as foreigner by about 98% of them.


Why does this argument keep popping up anyway?

HuK lives in Korea, trains in Korea and competes in Korea. This is what is relevant to Starcraft - and nothing else.

What color his skin is, where he was born, what are his roots... all of that is just trivia.

Rain just moved to the US - are you saying he's an American?


C'mon guys, think a little. Huk is a Canadian on the KR server.


People are talking about the play style.

If people are talking about the play style and not the person, then they should make that clear.

Like, "Huk has a Korean play style."
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
July 09 2011 01:03 GMT
#13778
Dear premium customer: that was not an ORB ad, it was a sponsor.

I am not young enough to know everything.
zhooter
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden15 Posts
July 09 2011 01:03 GMT
#13779
8 hours, 4 games. GJ
Kinch
Profile Joined August 2010
United States258 Posts
July 09 2011 01:03 GMT
#13780
Schedule planning non-existent here. You could set it up to have back-to-back matches but that would take 4 booths and a dual casting teams. Which clearly can be done.
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