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omegaslast
Profile Joined May 2011
223 Posts
July 05 2011 10:53 GMT
#901
On July 05 2011 19:51 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:50 CortoMontez wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:48 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:47 omegaslast wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:46 DoX.) wrote:
How do you deal with the huge 20+ muta ball?


qxc discussed it yesterday, people need to start using hunter seekers...

I assume that was a joke. Mutas can out run/micro Hunter Seeker with ease.

If they run then you have already saved the expansion.

And if they come back and your raven's out of energy?


the raven has to become a baneling attack for the terran and just happen to catch the mutas off guard. the most fantastic part is if the mutas want they can just sit over your scvs and probably let all of them die with the hunter seeker damage lol
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 05 2011 10:53 GMT
#902
On July 05 2011 19:49 Lorizean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:47 MechKing wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?

Umm, didn't Line get really far on his super heavy mutalisk style? Mutas are extremely hard to deal with. Once you get to around 25-30 turrets literally do nothing. Thors can be magic boxed, and groups of marines can lose too.

But I'd think that if you get 30 Mutas you don't have much else (specifically, not many banes/infestors)? And I don't think Mutas would be cost-efficient versus Marines in any way, right? So if you get tons of Marines, wouldn't that work?

If you get tons of marines the zerg can just immediately go into bane mode and infestors later. Since mutalisk damage overall goes up, groups of marines won't work against mutas.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 05 2011 10:54 GMT
#903
On July 05 2011 19:49 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:46 DoX.) wrote:
How do you deal with the huge 20+ muta ball?

You need to get a raven and disguise it as a mutalisk. Then you send your raven to the muta flock (or murder). You let your raven grow up among the mutalisk's, so they will accept it as their own. Finally, when the muta flock is getting too big you hunter seeker missile them all after they have eaten a thor shot.


I assume that was a joke. Mutas can out run/micro Hunter Seeker with ease.
omegaslast
Profile Joined May 2011
223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 10:54:43
July 05 2011 10:54 GMT
#904
ohhh or maybe 1 ghost at each base, then a ghost between bases. Somehow pull off 8 snipes at the same time while simultaneously dragging the ghost from the mid point and catch the rest of the mutas!!
RandomAccount#106470
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
July 05 2011 10:54 GMT
#905
--- Nuked ---
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
July 05 2011 10:54 GMT
#906
SC VS MVP REMATCH PLEASEEEEE
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
CrumpetGuvnor
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia302 Posts
July 05 2011 10:54 GMT
#907
On July 05 2011 19:49 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:47 Huragius wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?


Sure, it's so easy to deal with it. I wonder why world's top Terrans are so bad, I guess it's due to zerg supa ninja skills lol.


Mutalisks are impossible to deal with

Broodlord/Infestor impossible to death with

bane mines too strong

etc

Terran still dominating all of korean ladder, gsl, and foreign tourneys.....

I don't understand you people

haha agree with this so much
stop crying terrans, the game isnt meant to be easy. so what MVP got beaten on an alleged zerg favoured map. im pretty sure 95% of maps over the whole of GSL have been terran favoured. suck it up and learn to deal with it without whinging.
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
July 05 2011 10:54 GMT
#908
Actually, if you have a lot of mutas, your overall "engage" force is not that strong. You can actually afford to leave some marines in the base and a thor or so while your main force moves out.
Nastiness
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden275 Posts
July 05 2011 10:54 GMT
#909
On July 05 2011 19:54 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:49 Eufouria wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:46 DoX.) wrote:
How do you deal with the huge 20+ muta ball?

You need to get a raven and disguise it as a mutalisk. Then you send your raven to the muta flock (or murder). You let your raven grow up among the mutalisk's, so they will accept it as their own. Finally, when the muta flock is getting too big you hunter seeker missile them all after they have eaten a thor shot.


I assume that was a joke. Mutas can out run/micro Hunter Seeker with ease.


Not if you sandwich with stim marines.
There is no rest in the dark realm.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
July 05 2011 10:54 GMT
#910
Wow if sC loses this the up and downs will be a living hell TT
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
July 05 2011 10:54 GMT
#911
On July 05 2011 19:49 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:42 Rarak wrote:
I dont think i've ever seen a terran win on this map.

lol

TheBest vs min g3 of ST IIRC

he show exactly how you're supposed to play TvZ on crossfire.


That's how most of these Terrans play on the ladder, and obtain such high win rates. sC's bunker rushes and two rax openings, Happy's three rax rushes, etc. They all have one thing in common: to obtain an early game advantage, so the Zerg doesn't have enough economy to mass up mutas before the Terran can hit with a timing.

Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
July 05 2011 10:55 GMT
#912
They don't show the production tab much to build up suspense and add a surprise factor to the commentary
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
July 05 2011 10:55 GMT
#913
On July 05 2011 19:54 CrumpetGuvnor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:49 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:47 Huragius wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?


Sure, it's so easy to deal with it. I wonder why world's top Terrans are so bad, I guess it's due to zerg supa ninja skills lol.


Mutalisks are impossible to deal with

Broodlord/Infestor impossible to death with

bane mines too strong

etc

Terran still dominating all of korean ladder, gsl, and foreign tourneys.....

I don't understand you people

haha agree with this so much
stop crying terrans, the game isnt meant to be easy. so what MVP got beaten on an alleged zerg favoured map. im pretty sure 95% of maps over the whole of GSL have been terran favoured. suck it up and learn to deal with it without whinging.


what a compelling and unbiased viewpoint, thank you for the enlightenment.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
July 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#914
This thread is becoming exactly like the one earlier today about "An Honest look at TvZ lategame". Suffice it to say, that thread was locked because of balance whining so although I do agree with the terran side of things.. keep it clean.
and my axe
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
July 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#915
On July 05 2011 19:53 MechKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:49 Lorizean wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:47 MechKing wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?

Umm, didn't Line get really far on his super heavy mutalisk style? Mutas are extremely hard to deal with. Once you get to around 25-30 turrets literally do nothing. Thors can be magic boxed, and groups of marines can lose too.

But I'd think that if you get 30 Mutas you don't have much else (specifically, not many banes/infestors)? And I don't think Mutas would be cost-efficient versus Marines in any way, right? So if you get tons of Marines, wouldn't that work?

If you get tons of marines the zerg can just immediately go into bane mode and infestors later. Since mutalisk damage overall goes up, groups of marines won't work against mutas.

Hm.. what about a thor/marine mix?
I know you can magic box, but Thors are still cost efficient against Mutas, right? (5 Mutas/Thor). I mean, getting a huge Mutaball like that takes a lot of commitment, if you can neutralize it I don't think Zerg has enough resources to do a massive tech switch.
omegaslast
Profile Joined May 2011
223 Posts
July 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#916
On July 05 2011 19:54 CrumpetGuvnor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:49 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:47 Huragius wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?


Sure, it's so easy to deal with it. I wonder why world's top Terrans are so bad, I guess it's due to zerg supa ninja skills lol.


Mutalisks are impossible to deal with

Broodlord/Infestor impossible to death with

bane mines too strong

etc

Terran still dominating all of korean ladder, gsl, and foreign tourneys.....

I don't understand you people

haha agree with this so much
stop crying terrans, the game isnt meant to be easy. so what MVP got beaten on an alleged zerg favoured map. im pretty sure 95% of maps over the whole of GSL have been terran favoured. suck it up and learn to deal with it without whinging.


yeah a lot of terrans are very good players who practice reaaally really hard. I bet most TvZ wins are when the terran pushes early for most korean terrans. Show me late game TvZ against nestea where the terran wins..go ahead...
RandomAccount#106470
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
July 05 2011 10:57 GMT
#917
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 05 2011 10:58 GMT
#918
Did sC play BW? I know he's a little young to have been in any pro BW teams but did he play it with fOu?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
ToInfinity
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands61 Posts
July 05 2011 10:58 GMT
#919
On July 05 2011 19:56 omegaslast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:54 CrumpetGuvnor wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:49 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:47 Huragius wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?


Sure, it's so easy to deal with it. I wonder why world's top Terrans are so bad, I guess it's due to zerg supa ninja skills lol.


Mutalisks are impossible to deal with

Broodlord/Infestor impossible to death with

bane mines too strong

etc

Terran still dominating all of korean ladder, gsl, and foreign tourneys.....

I don't understand you people

haha agree with this so much
stop crying terrans, the game isnt meant to be easy. so what MVP got beaten on an alleged zerg favoured map. im pretty sure 95% of maps over the whole of GSL have been terran favoured. suck it up and learn to deal with it without whinging.


yeah a lot of terrans are very good players who practice reaaally really hard. I bet most TvZ wins are when the terran pushes early for most korean terrans. Show me late game TvZ against nestea where the terran wins..go ahead...


seeing how half of code S plays terran
i dont really see their problems
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
July 05 2011 10:58 GMT
#920
On July 05 2011 19:54 Nastiness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:54 tomatriedes wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:49 Eufouria wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:46 DoX.) wrote:
How do you deal with the huge 20+ muta ball?

You need to get a raven and disguise it as a mutalisk. Then you send your raven to the muta flock (or murder). You let your raven grow up among the mutalisk's, so they will accept it as their own. Finally, when the muta flock is getting too big you hunter seeker missile them all after they have eaten a thor shot.


I assume that was a joke. Mutas can out run/micro Hunter Seeker with ease.


Not if you sandwich with stim marines.


If you somehow sandwich with stimmed marines why would you need hunter seeker in the first place...so your solution to mutas is to get them in an impossible to get out of position somehow? That's like saying the best way to win ZvP is to surround the toss army from every direction with roaches then drop baneling bombs down the middle. EZ mode.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
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