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setmeal
Profile Joined March 2011
162 Posts
July 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#881
Go MVP go!!! You are the second best terran in the world just behind super jinro!!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
July 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#882
On July 05 2011 19:46 DisaFear wrote:
So sc vs Byun, if sc wins, sc rematch with MVP?

Yes. One of sC/MVP will not advance. Loser of this game will go to up and down.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#883
On July 05 2011 19:46 DoX.) wrote:
How do you deal with the huge 20+ muta ball?

You need to get a raven and disguise it as a mutalisk. Then you send your raven to the muta flock (or murder). You let your raven grow up among the mutalisk's, so they will accept it as their own. Finally, when the muta flock is getting too big you hunter seeker missile them all after they have eaten a thor shot.
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
July 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#884
THIS sC sign girl omg
Nastiness
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden275 Posts
July 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#885
On July 05 2011 19:48 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:47 omegaslast wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:46 DoX.) wrote:
How do you deal with the huge 20+ muta ball?


qxc discussed it yesterday, people need to start using hunter seekers...

I assume that was a joke. Mutas can out run/micro Hunter Seeker with ease.


Not if you sandwich the army with ravens behind and stimed marines running up
There is no rest in the dark realm.
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
July 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#886
On July 05 2011 19:47 MechKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?

Umm, didn't Line get really far on his super heavy mutalisk style? Mutas are extremely hard to deal with. Once you get to around 25-30 turrets literally do nothing. Thors can be magic boxed, and groups of marines can lose too.

But I'd think that if you get 30 Mutas you don't have much else (specifically, not many banes/infestors)? And I don't think Mutas would be cost-efficient versus Marines in any way, right? So if you get tons of Marines, wouldn't that work?
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#887
On July 05 2011 19:47 Nastiness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:45 Szubie wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-


I like how everyone tries to justify the perception that crossfire favours terran by saying that every pro terran is doing it wrong.

It seems really impossible for terran to defend from a huge muta ball on that map while also pushing, and taking 3rd base also seems difficult. Hopefully MVP still gets through the group stages, would be sad to see him go out because of this.


You make is sound like what zenio just pulled of is easy.. MVP own fault for being greedy with immobile army


Zerg was on 3 bases and was building the 4th at the gold while the terran was on 2, so calling MVP greedy must be some weird troll attempt :D
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CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
July 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#888
On July 05 2011 19:48 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:47 omegaslast wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:46 DoX.) wrote:
How do you deal with the huge 20+ muta ball?


qxc discussed it yesterday, people need to start using hunter seekers...

I assume that was a joke. Mutas can out run/micro Hunter Seeker with ease.

If they run then you have already saved the expansion.
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 10:51:10
July 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#889
On July 05 2011 19:49 Switchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?



Ok so turrets, marines at home, thor at home. --> push gets rolled because its not strong enough If only the game was that simple


aha, but in that case you are dropping enough despite the mutas to do economic damage to the zerg, and it is your fault when they have broodlord/infestor and several more expansions. You see, that's just the terran playing badly.

Clearly the solution is
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Ertu
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece686 Posts
July 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#890
On July 05 2011 19:45 koolaid1990 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:44 Drey wrote:
What the hell do people say terran favored map when its TvZ: 34-35 (49.3%). Not everything that tastosis says is true.

stats dont say everything.


Facts do.
Every GSL game I've watched,Zerg win TvZ on Crossfire,and then we have to hear about what an "epic" achievement it is for the Zerg to win on that map. It should be the other way around by now, a Terran hasn't won a TvZ in this map for ages.
Nastiness
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden275 Posts
July 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#891
On July 05 2011 19:50 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:47 Nastiness wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:45 Szubie wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-


I like how everyone tries to justify the perception that crossfire favours terran by saying that every pro terran is doing it wrong.

It seems really impossible for terran to defend from a huge muta ball on that map while also pushing, and taking 3rd base also seems difficult. Hopefully MVP still gets through the group stages, would be sad to see him go out because of this.


You make is sound like what zenio just pulled of is easy.. MVP own fault for being greedy with immobile army


Zerg was on 3 bases and was building the 4th at the gold while the terran was on 2, so calling MVP greedy must be some weird troll attempt :D


just saying he should have locked down gold and fallen back abit and secured the right 3d
There is no rest in the dark realm.
milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
July 05 2011 10:51 GMT
#892
On July 05 2011 19:47 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:46 Switchy wrote:
Wonder if Zenio will actually get far this time, hes always been a good code s player but i dont think he has any notable results so far. Pretty good play by him today.

Both Byun and Mvp lost their matches more than Zenio won them. Wasn't really impressed by him to be honest.


I'd agree with this. Zenio still appears to me as very much a fringe code S player, it was just that Byun threw the game against him and mvp was just his inconsistent self.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
July 05 2011 10:51 GMT
#893
On July 05 2011 19:48 xbankx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?



magic box versus thors. Making in in ur mineral lines has its flaws as well when muta cloud get that big their glave splash will devastate mineral lines while repairing. When terran split army thier army gets expoentially weaker. Terran is the race in this game where they need their units together. MVP played the best but you just can't beat zerg. Timing pushes like that leaves you open to counter attacks. Zerg before just try to engage army when tis get to their base but now they are getting smarter. Obviously there is no point to play late game against brood/infestors.

The only real army that gets exponentially weaker when split would be Protoss. You see MMA double/triple dropping whilst pushing out in the middle of the map all the time.

Terran army isn't weaker when split, just depends on what engages what. If there are infestors to meet the drop then they are rendered ineffective, but if Zerg only has lings and you manage to get behind the mineral line then you can do some serious damage.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 05 2011 10:51 GMT
#894
On July 05 2011 19:50 CortoMontez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:48 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:47 omegaslast wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:46 DoX.) wrote:
How do you deal with the huge 20+ muta ball?


qxc discussed it yesterday, people need to start using hunter seekers...

I assume that was a joke. Mutas can out run/micro Hunter Seeker with ease.

If they run then you have already saved the expansion.

And if they come back and your raven's out of energy?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
July 05 2011 10:51 GMT
#895
On July 05 2011 19:49 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:47 Huragius wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?


Sure, it's so easy to deal with it. I wonder why world's top Terrans are so bad, I guess it's due to zerg supa ninja skills lol.


Mutalisks are impossible to deal with

Broodlord/Infestor impossible to death with

bane mines too strong

etc

Terran still dominating all of korean ladder, gsl, and foreign tourneys.....

I don't understand you people


Lol, sure. Now please, shut up. Check the facts before you say something stupid like this.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 05 2011 10:52 GMT
#896
Anyone else wish they put the production tab on more?
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
July 05 2011 10:52 GMT
#897
On July 05 2011 19:51 Huragius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 19:49 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:47 Huragius wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:44 Mercury- wrote:
On July 05 2011 19:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
So many terrans have made the same freaking mistake on this map.

sC was owning nestea, lets 2 orbitals die to muta

MVP ahead in supply, lets his orbital die to mutas -.-

And how would you like them to do that against huge Muta clouds like that?


Make turrets in the mineral lines (not behind) so you can repair

always keep a healthy marine counter in wait at home

build a thor?

Jeeez are you really trying to say terrans can't deal with mutalisks now?


Sure, it's so easy to deal with it. I wonder why world's top Terrans are so bad, I guess it's due to zerg supa ninja skills lol.


Mutalisks are impossible to deal with

Broodlord/Infestor impossible to death with

bane mines too strong

etc

Terran still dominating all of korean ladder, gsl, and foreign tourneys.....

I don't understand you people


Lol, sure. Now please, shut up. Check the facts before you say something stupid like this.

Foreign tourneys part is wrong, but GSL is correct. Dunno why you bolded that.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
July 05 2011 10:53 GMT
#898
On July 05 2011 19:52 pdd wrote:
Anyone else wish they put the production tab on more?

me... put up production tab instead of unit tab please...
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 05 2011 10:53 GMT
#899
On July 05 2011 19:52 pdd wrote:
Anyone else wish they put the production tab on more?

Yeah, I'm not sure why the switch to mostly unit tab has occurred..
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
July 05 2011 10:53 GMT
#900
On July 05 2011 19:52 pdd wrote:
Anyone else wish they put the production tab on more?

Yeah. Ideally it should be production tab only and short switches to Unit...
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