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forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#981
On July 01 2011 14:22 Canucklehead wrote:
That was some top 3 blink micro in the world man.


Why do people always overhype blink stalker micro? It wasn't even that good, he often blinked back clumps of stalkers, a few of which didn't need to be blinked back yet.
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#982
Yu-gi-oh is the last Slayers left, can he rely on the heart of the cards?
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#983
Losing overlords during battle like that has even worse effects for Zerg than losing pylons or depots does for Ts and Ps. When Sheth is already scrambling to get enough roaches out to stop the blink stalks, not only is he supply blocked but he also has to spend those precious Larvae to recover the supply.

Terrans and Protoss dont have to block up their production line to remake their depots and pylons but Zerg loses production capabilities temporarily by having to spend larvae on overlords. Sheth not telling his overlords to back the fuck off really cost him the game there
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#984
A lot of people are in awe before Puzzle 500 apm but please bear in mind that blink is 10s cooldown iirc. This is not micro intensive. Puzzle was spamming like crazy.
o choro é livre
PowerDes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States520 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#985
Wolf played yu gi oh before. Lameeee.
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TMStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia686 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#986
On July 01 2011 14:20 Warrice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:17 StyLeD wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:16 Vapaach wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:14 ProperOne wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:11 Vapaach wrote:
Once again, the zerg's answer would have been infestors.



Lol is this a joke? he didint have the gas to get the infestor pit or time. But blink stalker or balanced rgiht? So answer is that sheth just isnt as good as puzzle clearly.

he had 1200 gas banked


He had everything required to get the infestors, he just decided to not get them. Imagine a couple of roaches less and 2-3 fungals on the blink stalkers. Guess who would have won then?


You're pretty silly, kid. He spent all his minerals on roaches and barely lost the fight after a 4-5 minute exchange. Take even a small portion of the minerals he spent on roaches and he would've lost that in 30 seconds. Get real rofl.

What about the 700 minerals he lost in overlords. Had he not been screwed by that he could have afforded the infestors. Get real LOLOLOLOL

its not the minerals that make infesters costly, its the gas.

Infestors .... do have any idea how LONG it takes to get infestors, who then need to wait for energy to fungal? He barely had enough units to hold at the front as it was, just "getting" infestors is funny to say the least.
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sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#987
On July 01 2011 14:22 AndAgain wrote:
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On July 01 2011 14:17 crms wrote:
im really not that impressed with most blink stalker play. unless you're bronze or afk during battles, blink stalker micro (on the whole) is incredibly easy and effective. It's nothing like the micro that was involved in BW or Warcraft 3.


It's not just the micro itself, but to do it while multitasking that's the hard part.



There was no multitasking involved. That's why the blink stalker all in's are even stronger. all you have to do is warp in. Which is not hard.
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
skullhoof
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (North)835 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#988
Anyone knows why McDonald hate Pepsi?
Polt was right about luck
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#989
On July 01 2011 14:17 travis wrote:
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On July 01 2011 14:15 Goibon wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:15 travis wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:14 Miah121 wrote:
I find it pretty funny that Sheth supporters were so happy that Puzzle beat MMA, then Puzzle just outplays him.


...? why is that funny?

Because they (like 6 people in the prior LR thread) thought Puzzle would be an easier opponent than MMA.


and who says he wasn't?

sheth was damn close to winning that 2nd game..


he was never close. he defended it with the wrong composition and 0 creep (you need to keep the protoss ass home until he has obs)
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Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#990
People who say the blink micro wasn't great are clueless about the game. Dodging Roach shots, and why would you blink 1 by 1 when Sheth isn't focusing down specific targets? You blink groups to create better concave/positioning. Notice how many times the stalkers started out as a clump, then after blinking became a concave.
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#991
Nestea always gets a lot of spine crawlers and lings rather than a lot of roaches. Losira always gets a macro hatch and a lot more lings (assuming he doesn't just 2base roach ling and kill protoss before this even hits)

They never lost a ZvP Bo3. It's not rocket science to defend this
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 05:25:25
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#992
On July 01 2011 14:23 oogieogie wrote:
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On July 01 2011 14:20 Ocedic wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:17 travis wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:15 Goibon wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:15 travis wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:14 Miah121 wrote:
I find it pretty funny that Sheth supporters were so happy that Puzzle beat MMA, then Puzzle just outplays him.


...? why is that funny?

Because they (like 6 people in the prior LR thread) thought Puzzle would be an easier opponent than MMA.


and who says he wasn't?

sheth was damn close to winning that 2nd game..


No he wasn't. His control simply isn't good enough to even beat 100 supply with 150, hence why he lost all his overlords (which is what ultimately cost him the game.)

the only answer i can see vs this blink is mass spines, but 50 supply up? if the idra vs MC game showed anything either its that you need to be more supply up or catch the toss not paying attention or something.


that kind of supply difference doesn't mean anything when zerg is making roaches anyways



also i don't know how people say he wasnt close to stopping that, I guess they watched a different game than I did
Invadris
Profile Joined February 2011
United States164 Posts
July 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#993
Wolf has the heart of the cards...
xD
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
July 01 2011 05:25 GMT
#994
On July 01 2011 14:24 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:22 Canucklehead wrote:
That was some top 3 blink micro in the world man.


Why do people always overhype blink stalker micro? It wasn't even that good, he often blinked back clumps of stalkers, a few of which didn't need to be blinked back yet.


This. And he lost a bunch of stalkers he shouldnt have by not blinking them back when he could have
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
RykuX
Profile Joined March 2011
1200 Posts
July 01 2011 05:25 GMT
#995
On July 01 2011 14:24 Yang Wenli wrote:
Yu-gi-oh is the last Slayers left, can he rely on the heart of the cards?


Yami Yugi! Yugi is fed up with you happy! LETS DUEL!!
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 01 2011 05:25 GMT
#996
On July 01 2011 14:22 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:21 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:18 Dommk wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:15 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:14 Perfi wrote:
According to Sc2gears, 550 ingame APM is 761 real APM.


Thats ridiculously excessive for what was going on; nothing to do at home for the toss since he was all in, and blink micro doesn't take nearly much apm, especially Puzzl'es blink micro (blinking back groups larger than he needed to, and not one by one) I could justify that apm if Puzzle was literally blinking back stalkers 1 by 1 with that many stalkers but jesus...spam moar Puzzle >_>

Having to go back to pylon to warpin units, then re-rally them on top of blink micro as well as microing the stalkers that have blink on cooldown, yeah, I could see him hitting 500 APM.

There is nothing really to spam, he is not boxing his mineral line, it is just pure micro


Uhm no. Do you play protoss? Blink micro is really not that apm intensive. You select a line of stalkers and click backwards, then hit your hotkey for all your stalkers and press a click forwards, rinse and repeat.

730 apm is absurd. He wasn't even showing off that great micro. This is all pretty irrelevant though, it was just me being surprised at the ridiculously excessive spam


Someone is clearly mad/jealous. If Sheth had 730 apm you would be praising how insane his apm is.

People don't 'spam' 15 minutes into the game.


Yes... they do. I'd say about 300 of the apm was spamming
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
July 01 2011 05:25 GMT
#997
Gogo Happy!
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PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
July 01 2011 05:25 GMT
#998
On July 01 2011 14:24 TMStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:20 Warrice wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:17 StyLeD wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:16 Vapaach wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:14 ProperOne wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:11 Vapaach wrote:
Once again, the zerg's answer would have been infestors.



Lol is this a joke? he didint have the gas to get the infestor pit or time. But blink stalker or balanced rgiht? So answer is that sheth just isnt as good as puzzle clearly.

he had 1200 gas banked


He had everything required to get the infestors, he just decided to not get them. Imagine a couple of roaches less and 2-3 fungals on the blink stalkers. Guess who would have won then?


You're pretty silly, kid. He spent all his minerals on roaches and barely lost the fight after a 4-5 minute exchange. Take even a small portion of the minerals he spent on roaches and he would've lost that in 30 seconds. Get real rofl.

What about the 700 minerals he lost in overlords. Had he not been screwed by that he could have afforded the infestors. Get real LOLOLOLOL

its not the minerals that make infesters costly, its the gas.

Infestors .... do have any idea how LONG it takes to get infestors, who then need to wait for energy to fungal? He barely had enough units to hold at the front as it was, just "getting" infestors is funny to say the least.


Well not investing into baneling drops is a start....
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 01 2011 05:25 GMT
#999
ROFL that intro oh my god
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Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
July 01 2011 05:25 GMT
#1000
On July 01 2011 14:24 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:22 Canucklehead wrote:
That was some top 3 blink micro in the world man.


Why do people always overhype blink stalker micro? It wasn't even that good, he often blinked back clumps of stalkers, a few of which didn't need to be blinked back yet.

explained earlier by someone. Blinking back stalkers in the front, even if they arent low on health, is a benefit due to them being able to dodge roach shots. why bother with precision blink micro on low health stalks when you can blink back clumps for additional benefit?
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