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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining

Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 19 2011 16:50 GMT
#7261
On June 20 2011 01:49 johnnyspazz wrote:
wouldn't it make sense for hasu to purposely lose 0-2 so his teammate has a chance to get #2? isnt he already locked for #1?

No, July is #1 with 5:0

Hasu and Thorzain are fighting for the #2
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
June 19 2011 16:50 GMT
#7262
On June 20 2011 01:49 andis35 wrote:
if sjow wins and thorzain wins isnt it a 3 way tie?


I heard Sjow and three way tie. That brings back awful memories...
LaserLynx
Profile Joined June 2011
United States36 Posts
June 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#7263
On June 20 2011 01:49 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:48 rasnj wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:46 clusen wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:45 thoradycus wrote:
SO THOR IS OUT?????

Not yet, depends on Hasu vs Sjow. Hasu is up 1:0 atm

Hasu now has 8 wins. Thorzain has 6. Thorzain can at best get up to 8 wins at which point it would depend on their head-to-head match, but hasu won that. If they follow their own rules thorzain is out now.


It depends on win-loss ratio, not just number of wins, no?


Not according to the the Dreamhack official rules. Only wins.
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
June 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#7264
On June 20 2011 01:45 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:42 rpgalon wrote:
a nice post

On June 17 2011 13:59 bennyaus wrote:
Anyone find it interesting....

Last Code S : HuK knocked into Up and Down by InCa (no.2 PvP in the world after MC, and eventual finalist) and July (close game with a legend).

Up and Down he has 1 chance vs either MMA or MKP, and beats MMA (one of the few people that has beaten MMA in a Bo1/Bo3 in the last 2 months...).

Then he gets Polt (eventual finalist) in the R32 of Super Tournament who has the best vP in the world.

So many haters don't realise how unlucky HuK is. He could easily advance in any of those scenarios if he wasn't matched with the eventual finalists or gosus, and even then he had a good chance to beat Polt and July in those 2 matches.

Gogogo HuK fighting. My tip for Dreamhack :D



A nice post but still somewhat inaccurate. Sure he had InCa and July in his groups, but that's based on the GSL Code S selection process, not random draw. HuK had very little say in how his group would shape up, and obviously would shape up in a way that didn't benefit him (if it benefitted him, the previous players would not have selected that way)

Sure he lost to Polt in ST, but most players in RO32 are pretty good. You could also argue that he was lucky in getting the worst PvP player (San) in R1 and avoiding PvP (his worst matchup) in R2. Or that he didn't run into Nestea/MC/etc. etc.

HuK is good, but he's where he belongs, low Code S material.


Huk also had an extremely easy draw to get into Code S in the first place. Not saying Huk doesn't deserve Code S or commenting either way but he's had plenty of favourable luck too.

Also in Code S you will always play very good players, because it's full of very good players.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#7265
Naniwa, MC, HuK, SaSe, Socke, White-Ra, Mana and assuming HasuObs makes it, all in the Ro16 playoffs, one protoss from each group. Really amazing showing by the world's top protoss players :D
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 16:51:23
June 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#7266
lalala
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
June 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#7267
STREAM for ThorZaiN vs Machine ?

scedule says TB, but he isnt casting
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Shichibukai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden355 Posts
June 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#7268
On June 20 2011 01:48 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:46 clusen wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:45 thoradycus wrote:
SO THOR IS OUT?????

Not yet, depends on Hasu vs Sjow. Hasu is up 1:0 atm

Hasu now has 8 wins. Thorzain has 6. Thorzain can at best get up to 8 wins at which point it would depend on their head-to-head match, but hasu won that. If they follow their own rules thorzain is out now.

You're doing it wrong. If Hasu loses 1-2 he's at +3.
If Thorzain wins 2-0 he's at +4.
Matches won > Score > Head-to-head. # of games won doesn't matter.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 16:52:40
June 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#7269
On June 20 2011 01:49 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:48 rasnj wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:46 clusen wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:45 thoradycus wrote:
SO THOR IS OUT?????

Not yet, depends on Hasu vs Sjow. Hasu is up 1:0 atm

Hasu now has 8 wins. Thorzain has 6. Thorzain can at best get up to 8 wins at which point it would depend on their head-to-head match, but hasu won that. If they follow their own rules thorzain is out now.

It's not wins, it's wins - losses

Why do so many people believe this? I have not seen any official source state this. Apollo and day9 are confused as hell about scoring so wouldn't trust their word as necessarily correct when it comes to technical details.

EDIT: Not saying it isn't the most sensible, just don't think that is how DH does it.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
June 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#7270
On June 20 2011 01:46 ODieN wrote:
So is there a possible MC vs IdrA in the playoffs? :D



Yep. The playoffs will be chosen randomly. Anything can happen =).
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#7271
On June 20 2011 01:49 vojnik wrote:
what you people dont understand is Moon is sponsored by steelseries and steelseries is the sponsor of dreamhack, thus its in their best interest to invite moon, deal with it.


And clearly with Moon making 2nd in group it turned out to be a good invite no?

The better question is someone like Grubby who is sponsored by steelseries as well, would he have gotten an invite otherwise? My guess is yes, Grubby is just too popular in Europe to not get one. And he finished 3rd in group so didn't turn out poorly either.
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
June 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#7272
its BRATOK takin the playoff round 8 spot er bust
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 16:52:30
June 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#7273
I thought Thorzain was a foreign favorite?.. And Idra too..
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
June 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#7274
Acorrding to DH rules its win/loss ratio, then number of wins, then head to head.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#7275
On June 20 2011 01:51 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:45 FairForever wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:42 rpgalon wrote:
a nice post

On June 17 2011 13:59 bennyaus wrote:
Anyone find it interesting....

Last Code S : HuK knocked into Up and Down by InCa (no.2 PvP in the world after MC, and eventual finalist) and July (close game with a legend).

Up and Down he has 1 chance vs either MMA or MKP, and beats MMA (one of the few people that has beaten MMA in a Bo1/Bo3 in the last 2 months...).

Then he gets Polt (eventual finalist) in the R32 of Super Tournament who has the best vP in the world.

So many haters don't realise how unlucky HuK is. He could easily advance in any of those scenarios if he wasn't matched with the eventual finalists or gosus, and even then he had a good chance to beat Polt and July in those 2 matches.

Gogogo HuK fighting. My tip for Dreamhack :D



A nice post but still somewhat inaccurate. Sure he had InCa and July in his groups, but that's based on the GSL Code S selection process, not random draw. HuK had very little say in how his group would shape up, and obviously would shape up in a way that didn't benefit him (if it benefitted him, the previous players would not have selected that way)

Sure he lost to Polt in ST, but most players in RO32 are pretty good. You could also argue that he was lucky in getting the worst PvP player (San) in R1 and avoiding PvP (his worst matchup) in R2. Or that he didn't run into Nestea/MC/etc. etc.

HuK is good, but he's where he belongs, low Code S material.


Huk also had an extremely easy draw to get into Code S in the first place. Not saying Huk doesn't deserve Code S or commenting either way but he's had plenty of favourable luck too.

Also in Code S you will always play very good players, because it's full of very good players.


ST Curious and TSL Revival aren't easy. I'm not sure if you've followed the Korean scene recently but both of those players have done quite well in the last few weeks (Revival in Super Tournament, Curious in the ICCUP weekly)
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#7276
On June 20 2011 01:50 youngminii wrote:
nah it's number of wins
idra was 7-6 while grubby was 6-5 and idra still advanced

Wasn't that because Idra won the direct comparison? Both have +1, but Idra won against Grubby 2:0
Mentymion
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany259 Posts
June 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#7277
Thorzain is as good at out....THATS ALL!
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#7278
Idra vs Huk drawing, I can feeeeeeeel it
Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
andis35
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia346 Posts
June 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#7279
On June 20 2011 01:50 Bobble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:49 andis35 wrote:
if sjow wins and thorzain wins isnt it a 3 way tie?


I heard Sjow and three way tie. That brings back awful memories...


that was awesome :D . they played 4 additional rounds iirc
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
June 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#7280
IdrA dropped a game vs Sushi...

his zvz is rly rly poor
KCCO!
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