Meh, deathballs by toss are just really good. I love when toss do amazing FF or blink micro or something but calling an a-move with a slight retreat when he sees a baneling drop "perfect control" is an insult to players like MC and their control.

It's not a balance comment I was making, just a comment on the fact that there was nothing stellar about that control.

DonaldLee

586 Posts

June 18 2011 11:40 GMT

#1602

Sooo, I start watching the game with Dimaga up 200 vs 158 food, Dimaga bane bombs about a third of Socke's probes, and Socke just attacks and kills Dimaga.

youngminii

Australia7514 Posts

June 18 2011 11:40 GMT

#1603

On June 18 2011 20:39 Pochtli wrote:

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He did have an infestation pit, don't think he had researched Pathogen Glands yet though.

*infestors

like if you kill their mineral line and they know they're far behind, what will they do? ATTACK

i'm so surprised that dimaga didn't expect a giant push, that ling roach baneling army was pathetic

Pochtli

Finland690 Posts

June 18 2011 11:40 GMT

#1604

On June 18 2011 20:39 L3g3nd_ wrote:

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sigh, keep balance whine out of here please, we dont want it.

This, I don't care if it's balanced or not(which I think it is, and I play zerg). In either case this isn't the place to share your opinions about it.

Weavel

Finland9221 Posts

June 18 2011 11:40 GMT

#1605

On June 18 2011 20:39 Boneyard.au wrote:
games are very good but day9's volume is very high

im at about 5% volume on my steam, appollo sounds perfect but when day9 gets excited his voice volume gets really damn loud

perhaps their compression isnt runnng? :S

Yeah noticed that too.

Azarkon

United States21060 Posts

June 18 2011 11:40 GMT

#1606

Protoss have been losing more than winning against Zerg as of late. Dimaga's ZvP is one of his weaknesses and it shows in the way he approached that death ball push. You want to flank against Protoss, or failing that, you need corrupters. Dimaga had neither and had to depend on the baneling bombs landing. Yet he got caught in a narrow choke and had his entire force FF'd off while Socke just calmly blinked back and focused the overlords. Some of that is Metalopolis. Some of it was Dimaga maxing on mostly roaches.

noezke

England514 Posts

June 18 2011 11:40 GMT

#1607

On June 18 2011 20:39 L3g3nd_ wrote:

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sigh, keep balance whine out of here please, we dont want it.

Never going to happen, almost half of these threads are always massive shitfests.

andis35

Latvia346 Posts

June 18 2011 11:41 GMT

#1608

what else socke could do? his economy is dead only chance is to push right now hoping that opponent has smaler army. dimaga should have expected that and prepared

Logros

Netherlands9913 Posts

June 18 2011 11:41 GMT

#1609

Nani vs Ret is gonna be sick! That's gonna decide the group right?

Malinor

Germany4727 Posts

June 18 2011 11:41 GMT

#1610

Socke was 50 supply down, but he had 3-0 attack and much better tech than Dimaga. Of course after the probe massacre he had to push earlier as he would have liked, but it was still enough. Nothing wrong with pvz in this game.

Mattes

Germany1116 Posts

June 18 2011 11:41 GMT

#1611

On June 18 2011 20:37 Sedz wrote:
I know a ban's coming, but come on, surely that shows how hard it is for a protoss to lose against a zerg.

I just dont understand why you people beg for those bans that much.

No problem with questioning a certain unit-composition..but that ban talk...my oh my...

Those colossi totally made that fight...10 currupters or such and it wouldve been completely the other way around.

sixfour

England11061 Posts

June 18 2011 11:41 GMT

#1612

jesus so much anti-toss qq here

Krehlmar

Sweden1149 Posts

June 18 2011 11:41 GMT

#1613

Them boring deathballs... zzzz

I love the protoss definition of "perfect control" he moved in, poked out for a second and a-moved back in ...

Agreed.
I don't care what anyone says about Forcefields, they're not that fucking hard to do, amove army and press 2 fress f and spam, controlling zerg/baneling/fungal is way harder since either way you ARE going to die units. Especially against blink stalkers.

Meh boring end to a otherwise nice game

Prostak

Poland192 Posts

June 18 2011 11:41 GMT

#1614

WWWWWWWWWWWOoooooooooooooooooooooWWWWWWWWWW
Superb play by Socke!
Mana plz watch this shit!

BratOK 3-0
U gona have morrow + dimaga on top for sure bueheehe

DaCruise

Denmark2457 Posts

June 18 2011 11:41 GMT

#1615

WoW..Jimpo takes the series 2-0 against MoMan.

Baituri

Netherlands1501 Posts

June 18 2011 11:42 GMT

#1616

Holy shit, the games that are still coming up are amazing. Best tournament ever?

The only thing disappointing for me is that you never hear the crowd.

Dommk

Australia4865 Posts

June 18 2011 11:42 GMT

#1617

On June 18 2011 20:40 Sixes wrote:

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Except that was very amazing control. Not a single Colossus was able to get sniped, not a single hole in the FF and not a single baneling managed to hit a Stalker. It is about engaging and being able to push before Zerg delays you too much, Socke did that perfectly, Dimaga had to by time but Socke just rolled right through.

Though pretty hilarious Zerg are crying since they have been winning 90% of PvZ's lately

Olinim

4044 Posts

June 18 2011 11:42 GMT

#1618

On June 18 2011 20:41 Krehlmar wrote:
Them boring deathballs... zzzz

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Fungal growth harder than forcefield? rofl.

crappen

Norway1546 Posts

June 18 2011 11:42 GMT

#1619

On June 18 2011 20:39 L3g3nd_ wrote:

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sigh, keep balance whine out of here please, we dont want it.

Dont interpret everything as balance, cause it was not the intention. I would react similar if they said those baneling drops in mineral line was perfect unit control, when all it was, was a nice drop.

anatem

Romania1369 Posts

June 18 2011 11:42 GMT

#1620

meanwhile, Jimpo showing how marine-mech comp works, and Moman showing how you can't pretend to be good if you don't make infestors against mass marine