EPTNASL Week 8 Day 4 - Page 5
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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
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Schnullerbacke13
Germany1199 Posts
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
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Schnullerbacke13
Germany1199 Posts
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human_ko
Russian Federation676 Posts
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ilmman
364 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:54 travis wrote: lol from what I heard from rekrul koreans are rarely concerned about being places on time at all -.- unless im remembering things wrong. but i doubt i am i would say the general population and also the fact that each individual is different.. We are not all the same duplicate robots that all flick our middle fingers up when someone dances... | ||
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Swizzae
52 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On June 05 2011 18:21 Schnullerbacke13 wrote: i think a problem of this format is, that players who perform bad have no incentive to show up and get slaughtered for nothing .. Yep. And the times at which Europeans have to play is just insane. Any experienced league hoster could have forecasted this T_T | ||
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GGruss
Sweden121 Posts
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DoubleB
Germany870 Posts
It's a shame. When I do not appeare to a football game in a damn LOW class, i have to pay 5€. It's not all about the money but about the respect! | ||
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W2
United States1177 Posts
On June 05 2011 18:36 Schnullerbacke13 wrote: well, those players have to make a living of gaming. its their job, they are not some parent-financed teens goofing around to serve the community. So if there is no chance anymore to earn a dime, they'll probably not play. No money - no music. its that simple Tournaments need players but players need tournaments too. Works both ways. Players get invited on the basis that they will finish out their games, or money will be deducted from their deposit. Maybe next season they need to bump up the deposit if players are still forfeiting games. At first I thought the deposit system was redundant, players were going to play all their games simply because of competitive spirit. However turns out they were right all along. There are dishonorable people such as you who only care about their own gains no matter how inconsequential. | ||
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Shalaiyn
Netherlands2735 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:21 Beyonder wrote: Yep. And the times at which Europeans have to play is just insane. Any experienced league hoster could have forecasted this T_T If Goody had to wake at 3 am, that means Goody would have had to play at 8 pm. I'm ok with playing a tournament at 8 pm. | ||
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Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On June 05 2011 20:20 Shalaiyn wrote: If MC had to wake at 3 am, that means Goody would have had to play at 8 pm. I'm ok with playing a tournament at 8 pm. MC is in colombus so Goody would have to play more like 8AM, which still seems like it would be a fine time to play a tourny unless you're used to waking up every day at noon, but then he should have taken off the skirt and woke up early | ||
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
The main problems with the walkovers are the following: 1) walkovers aren't announced prior to the broadcast, so people are pissed off when they make time to watch their favourite player and then it doesn't happen. A small notification of walkovers at the beginning of the broadcast and/or at the end of the previous day's broadcast would go a LONG way to stop people from being so annoyed by this. 2) Some of the invited players have quit playing, are too busy to train or are just not very good (comparatively). Not only does this mean that those players don't show up half the time, but it also means there's far less of a relegation battle than there should be. When you have so many guys sitting on 0-8 or 1-7 and unlikely to win another match, you get the situation where people like BratOK can sit comfortably on a 3-5 record and know they're safe for next season. This is one of those things that's going to sort itself out for next season, as those that aren't able to compete will be relegated and replaced by a bunch of people who've earned their spot through qualifiers. When you don't have those 1 or 2 guys in each division that are basically giving away free wins you'll have a much closer spread of points and suddenly everyone will be doing everything they can to get those one or two extra wins they need to retain their spot. | ||
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Merano
Austria105 Posts
See http://nasl.tv/Standings . | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On June 05 2011 18:36 Schnullerbacke13 wrote: well, those players have to make a living of gaming. its their job, they are not some parent-financed teens goofing around to serve the community. So if there is no chance anymore to earn a dime, they'll probably not play. No money - no music. its that simple Not only is that a very bad attitude to have if you actually wanna be a profesional player, it's also wrong. If the players just don't show up without a valid reason and not even informing NASL they'll have money deducted from their deposit. So in fact they would be making money just by showing up, doing two stupid rushes and lose. It's really just some players wanna sleep in instead of putting in matches for the NASL that were kind enough to invite them into their league, and more importantly the fans who might have even stayed up to watch them play. | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:21 Beyonder wrote: Yep. And the times at which Europeans have to play is just insane. Any experienced league hoster could have forecasted this T_T I think you meant the Koreans? The Euros probably have the BEST times, as they all play in the evening, while the Americans end up having to play in the afternoon. It's the Koreans who have to wake up at 3-4 A.M. | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
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havox_
Germany442 Posts
As someone here mentioned before: Tournaments need players, but players need tournaments too. If you miss your games the league gets les interesting, the viewers (who in the end are the people who make it possible that we have such huge prize pools) get annoyed etc. But this is of course one of the many NASL problems, which they will hopefully solve for the next season. They a) need a different format (in which it suxx for every player to lose any game) and/or b) Players need to be punished due to better rules. E.g. like in the ESL (at least in the German Pro Series they do it like this): If a player gets too many penalty points per season, he will be disqualified (which in the NASL would e.g. mean: banned for the next season) or he will even lose some x% of his prize money in this season (or even for future seasons, if he doesnt make it in the money now). But hey, I actually feel like the walkovers are by for not the biggest problems: - Bad communication (was mentioned before, so no long explanation needed)... - their website needs some tweaks (I mainly mean the content, although I dislike the design too - seriously, no information on the leagues format?)... - imho they shouldnt run a show on the MLG weekend for their own good - but ok, this would look like a sign of weakness (basically saying: MLG is more important than we are) etc. Anyways, we still saw many many great games and casts this season, amazing players for a first season and im sure the playoffs will be a hell lot of fun - and season 2 will be even better =) | ||
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stalife
Canada1222 Posts
On June 05 2011 22:37 Qaatar wrote: I think you meant the Koreans? The Euros probably have the BEST times, as they all play in the evening, while the Americans end up having to play in the afternoon. It's the Koreans who have to wake up at 3-4 A.M. Yeah, the play times was the number one concern for me as I have been taking 2 hour "lunch breaks" from work ... Not just that, I haven't played a single NASL match so far with warmup games. I'm sure the Koreans have hard time waking up at like 4 AM to play this. The Europeans play at like 9 PM which is for majority of players, it's quite optimal. | ||
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