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Thanks for doing this today!
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And yes I'm going to be watching NASL today instead of MLG so please do me the favor of not spoiling games so I can watch the vods. thanks in advance.
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thx for the thread.
can't wait for an amazing tvt between best eu T against best us T =)
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Sigh, another walkover.
On June 02 2011 21:09 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 17:03 doffe wrote:On June 02 2011 15:31 iNcontroL wrote:On June 02 2011 15:08 bwin wrote:
I mean, if your entire business is structured around the internet, it is your responsibility to make sure the internet is stable. I understand shit happens but to say that nothing could have been done to prevent this just sounds like you're trying to pass off blame. You are right. We literally could have an internet crew out every single day checking the infrastructure over and over again. But what if it happened anyways? Was it our fault for not hiring a better crew? But what if it happened to the best crew money could buy? Were we supposed to have it hard wired to the actual TV/Monitor of each viewer? At some point we say "sorry" and "we want to make sure it doesn't happen again" but that also doesn't mean you get to claim that we shoulda hired God to make sure there was no way it could happen. Really Inc? THIS is what you respond to? Alot of people has asked valid questions and the one you actually adress is this. Is it just so you can use your extreme wit and skill with sarcasm or what, it just seems silly. Its not like anyone actually think its NASLs fault if the ISP goes down, or atleast noone with a brain. What about the question to why you do not announce W/O precast instead of pregame, would be appreciated. Or does an answer to this grant to few opportunities to sarcasm? W/o should have been announced. We discussed it and it was supposed yo happen no idea why it didnt
What a load of crap. This was week eight day one yet you still haven't been doing it for days two, three and today.
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you got the standings of the wrong group. But thanks for putting this up.
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Hopefully when NASL becomes a bigger deal, if you guys keep pushing it as a legitimate league, these punks will stop being such pussy quitters.
LOL Catz, "gg love wp"
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LOL, they beeped out 'shit'.
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hm, nasl should really imrpove their rules for this, having w/o quite often doesnt make the thing look good at all
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On June 05 2011 10:26 Hollis wrote:
Hopefully when NASL becomes a bigger deal, if you guys keep pushing it as a legitimate league, these punks will stop being such pussy quitters.
LOL Catz, "gg love wp"
yeah I'm sure theres 100's of things they know they'll do better for next season. seeding the players like they did was a joke but they do have a pretty kickass lineup for their offline playoffs you gotta admit.
they should have some motivation at least for people to keep playing something like seeds into the qualifiers or harsher penalties if you don't show.
Machines gotta get something for taking all the loss's like a trooper.
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I'm actually very surprised NASL even held their events this weekend at all with MLG they should have known their numbers would take a huge hit. just go do it on Monday/ Tuesday for 2 weeks to catch up.
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Im trying to remember, who did ret lose too? I thought he only had one series loss
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wow really good matches tonight actualy.
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On June 05 2011 11:11 1Eris1 wrote:
Im trying to remember, who did ret lose too? I thought he only had one series loss
ACE
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lol hasuObs win with infinite forcefield at the ramp til colossus loll
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Stalife VS HasuObs game 3 is so worth it for entertainment value.
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On June 05 2011 11:15 sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:11 1Eris1 wrote:
Im trying to remember, who did ret lose too? I thought he only had one series loss ACE
Thats what I thought, in the OP it says he has two though
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oh wow still on first page. Will tune in for the last two matches now.
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lol stalife really messed up... he should have hid those extra marines better and built a bunker.. e.g in his mineral lines oh well
why didn't he transition as well? kinda strange lol
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egg machine very nice small talk between gretorp and ace here.
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These players that just call it quits 2/3 way through a season pisses me off.
I hope they're banned from NASL in the future.
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Hasuobs vs Stalife G3 Very tense game good watch.
OP troll? 
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So many walk-overs this week, I might have been pissed if the MLG wasn't on.
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I feel bad for NASL, but you should probably cut out the passive-aggressive-communication-of-reason-for-cancellation. Professionalism and all o' that..
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machines being a hero out there.
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On June 05 2011 11:22 MisterFred wrote:OP troll?
I belive it was TLO 6 rax and hasuobs only having 1 sentry when the charge got to his ramp.
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Sigh, it feels like none of the players take NASL seriously...
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I really hope brat_ok and goody aren't getting one cent of their $250 deposit back...
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wow this maybe the worst week for nasl. Two walkovers second straight day. I hope bratok and goody will never be invited to another NA tournament online or lan if they didn't give a explanation for their absence. Even a overslept excuse is better then no response.
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On June 05 2011 11:29 Philipd122 wrote:
Sigh, it feels like none of the players take NASL seriously...
well, the ones that aren't in the running anymore at least. Bracket play can't get here fast enough :/
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On June 05 2011 11:29 Philipd122 wrote:
Sigh, it feels like none of the players take NASL seriously...
They'll all be crying when they don't get the big buckaroos.
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Yeah, they can't win any money, so they don't give a shit. Thats my guess at least
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On June 05 2011 11:46 Count9 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:29 Philipd122 wrote:
Sigh, it feels like none of the players take NASL seriously... well, the ones that aren't in the running anymore at least. Bracket play can't get here fast enough :/
It's actually pretty darn stupid of them. NASL is still exposure for their sponsors. A lot harder to get sponsors who have any idea about the business and community.
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lol Ace about to get rolled by machine
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Goody I can understand, but Bratok still has a good chance (even Goody isn't mathematically eliminated, but I'm sure he thinks that he won't win out from here either). If Bratok wins out, he'll be 6-4, which I'm sure will be good enough for top 30.
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On June 05 2011 12:00 Condor Hero wrote:
god machine so bad
He really threw those games away. Quite a pity 
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On June 05 2011 12:00 Qaatar wrote:
Goody I can understand, but Bratok still has a good chance (even Goody isn't mathematically eliminated, but I'm sure he thinks that he won't win out from here either). If Bratok wins out, he'll be 6-4, which I'm sure will be good enough for top 30.
The best he can go is 5-4. They only play 9 games total.
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On June 05 2011 12:04 lazyfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 12:00 Qaatar wrote:
Goody I can understand, but Bratok still has a good chance (even Goody isn't mathematically eliminated, but I'm sure he thinks that he won't win out from here either). If Bratok wins out, he'll be 6-4, which I'm sure will be good enough for top 30. The best he can go is 5-4. They only play 9 games total.
Ah, right. Either way, if Bratok really didn't show up because of what we're speculating in this thread...I don't know what to say. It's not like the rest of his games are unwinnable.
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Bratok is the same guy who got invites to tournaments and then didn't show up multiple times due to visa issues. Once I can understand with a visa problem, after that there is no excuse.
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I said at the start of NASL that there would be a problem with players turning up - they should have implemented a zero tolerance policy, if you miss a game due to anything that is within your control then you should be immediately ejected from the tournament and banned for life.
The NASL format doesn't help either, the groups are too large and the league phase is too long. Its quite sad, the foreign scene has been waiting for a tournament like this and the players are doing their best to destroy the foreign scene before it even gets started.
I hope the players that are ruining NASL fade into the background and are never heard from again, who is going to invite them to a tournament after this?
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Such fucking disrespect. It's shameful.
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On June 05 2011 12:40 Sami` wrote:
I said at the start of NASL that there would be a problem with players turning up - they should have implemented a zero tolerance policy, if you miss a game due to anything that is within your control then you should be immediately ejected from the tournament and banned for life.
The NASL format doesn't help either, the groups are too large and the league phase is too long. Its quite sad, the foreign scene has been waiting for a tournament like this and the players are doing their best to destroy the foreign scene before it even gets started.
I hope the players that are ruining NASL fade into the background and are never heard from again, who is going to invite them to a tournament after this?
Lol, banned for life... They could certainly have harsher consequences but come on.
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On June 05 2011 12:43 nam nam wrote:
Lol, banned for life... They could certainly have harsher consequences but come on.
That is the appropriate action, you need to discourage it. It would be even better if other tournaments came out and said that they won't be inviting players who don't honor their commitments to tournaments they enter.
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United States97276 Posts
So many walkovers this week. Are they due to MLG or are people just quitting on the league if they are out of playoff contention?
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It's silly that the one tournament that made a big deal about requiring teams and fining players money for stuff is the one tournament with lots of walkovers. It could probably be prevented by casting from replays and letting players have all week to play the matches but they don't do that because of desync due to blizzard not having online replay watching making clash of the titans horrible after they hyped it up.
It would have probably been better if they just gave players a week to play, cast from replays and just one observer with both commentators seeing the same screen.
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NASL has improved a ton since the start, don't ignore that. However, if they want to be competitive in the future they need to show THIS SEASON that they are willing to take action against players who blow them off. Publicize the players you don't return the $250 deposit to and ban those players in the future as well. It is completely unacceptable you have koreans staying up until 3 or 4 am to play their matches and then lazy people don't show up to play them. How do you think those koreans feel?
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It's not like the guy that does show up doesn't get a win or anything. I don't get why you need a "ban for life" stance on No-Shows. The only person they're hurting is themselves.
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It's not like the guy that does show up doesn't get a win or anything. I don't get why you need a "ban for life" stance on No-Shows. The only person they're hurting is themselves.
The viewers?
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On June 05 2011 12:40 Sami` wrote:
I said at the start of NASL that there would be a problem with players turning up - they should have implemented a zero tolerance policy, if you miss a game due to anything that is within your control then you should be immediately ejected from the tournament and banned for life.
The NASL format doesn't help either, the groups are too large and the league phase is too long. Its quite sad, the foreign scene has been waiting for a tournament like this and the players are doing their best to destroy the foreign scene before it even gets started.
I hope the players that are ruining NASL fade into the background and are never heard from again, who is going to invite them to a tournament after this?
It seems like this is an inevitable consequence of the format. People near the bottom have no incentive to play. Basically this part of the league is like a Regular Season in most sports, only without the salary. I couldn't imagine baseball players on weaker teams showing up to the 162nd game if they didn't have a salary.
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Wow two walkovers this week... that's unexpected @_@
I guess people are saying it's because they're near the bottom? Still that's no reason not to show up. IIRC, the players have to make a deposit before the start of the league. Don't they lose that deposit with this kind of behavior?
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I think ban for life is fair if you just don't show up without a reason ahead of time or a VERY good excuse (like "i was injured in a car crash"). There really is no excuse, it's just a sign they don't care very much and it's very disrespectful.
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NASL needs to fix something quickly because they are being treated like a joke with players deciding it not worth their time to treat the NASL with any respect.
TBH I don't watch the NASL often and the snippets that I have seen didn't showcase any entertaining matches at all, but to see a new organisation suffer so many setbacks is pitiable.
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Players need to inform the organizers ahead of time that they will not be showing up, not just suddenly dissappearing. The fucking person and casters and everyone else that was waiting for you just end up wasting time waiting for YOU! The stupid loser that won't even bother to inform them.
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I bet if MC or Select were 0-7, they still would have showed up, or at least fucking called.
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didn't watch the stream cause was watching MLG but just read:
"MC's hanging around at 3 in the morning the week he has to take on epic jet lag Goody is no where to be found NASL even gets someone who knows Goody to call his Personal phone and again gets no response 2-0 W.O. For MC Goody"
that sucks :/
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MC's hanging around at 3 in the morning the week he has to take on epic jet lag Goody is no where to be found NASL even gets someone who knows Goody to call his Personal phone and again gets no response 2-0 W.O. For MC Goody
If Goody gets any portion of his $250 back it is a travesty.
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Machine..... machineeeeee. how did you throw away that position in game 3 ?
I really hope Blizzard come out with a 'shared replay' feature before the next season, and that NASL chooses to cast from replays. Less walkovers (more time for players to play = hopefully friendlier times for the Koreans), no risk of lagging/pauses/dc'ing during the recording, etc.
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the one thing i can say about korean players is that they are at least much more professional, and even if they are losing they would fulfill their obligation to finish their matches.
they are also almost always on time
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On June 05 2011 14:43 SlayerSBriefS wrote:
the one thing i can say about korean players is that they are at least much more professional, and even if they are losing they would fulfill their obligation to finish their matches.
they are also almost always on time
i can understand korean players being more professional about sc2 but how did you come to your other 2 conclusions.
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On June 05 2011 14:51 statik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:43 SlayerSBriefS wrote:
the one thing i can say about korean players is that they are at least much more professional, and even if they are losing they would fulfill their obligation to finish their matches.
they are also almost always on time i can understand korean players being more professional about sc2 but how did you come to your other 2 conclusions.
because its part of our culture?
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Should ban all these ppl who forfeit their matches from ever entering NASL again. Very unprofessional.
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Should just award points to players for how they preform. That way they can get higher seeds in the open tournaments for being capable players. So if you go 0-10 or whatever it ends up being you don't get a high seed. But, if you end up 3-7 or something maybe give them a little bit of a head start. It'll increase incentive to stay in the NASL for as long as possible.
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On June 05 2011 15:15 ilmman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:51 statik wrote:On June 05 2011 14:43 SlayerSBriefS wrote:
the one thing i can say about korean players is that they are at least much more professional, and even if they are losing they would fulfill their obligation to finish their matches.
they are also almost always on time i can understand korean players being more professional about sc2 but how did you come to your other 2 conclusions. because its part of our culture?
lol from what I heard from rekrul koreans are rarely concerned about being places on time at all -.-
unless im remembering things wrong. but i doubt i am
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lol I'm beginning to think how stupid nasl is. 50,000 tournament and people don't even respond all day to play their matches... how many matches did we get jipped? I must have missed about 10 matches maybe more in this first season. I'm just sick of missing nasl every night and not being disappointed for missing it. I would really like to see some more strict rules or players that actually want to play in it. ugh.. thats how I feel about nasl, just "ugh"...
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Two walkovers in one night! ugh!
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On June 05 2011 15:19 Garnet wrote:
Should ban all these ppl who forfeit their matches from ever entering NASL again. Very unprofessional.
Yeah I thought NASL was supposed to be North Americans only when it began and they originally asked players to move to North America if they wished to participate in the league.
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On June 05 2011 16:40 Nizzy wrote:
lol I'm beginning to think how stupid nasl is. 50,000 tournament and people don't even respond all day to play their matches... how many matches did we get jipped? I must have missed about 10 matches maybe more in this first season. I'm just sick of missing nasl every night and not being disappointed for missing it. I would really like to see some more strict rules or players that actually want to play in it. ugh.. thats how I feel about nasl, just "ugh"...
they have to restructure format for season two, otherwise this league will not hold the public or player's interest. taking 3 months just to finish the pool play is absurd in our add adhd world of instant gratification and what's trending now. the meta game shifts, patches occur, players rise and fall, remember jinro 3 months ago? greatest terran in world, he plays the way terran will be played in the future. how did that pan out? in the meantime, as nasl drags along with its pool play, major tournies are going on, champions are being crowned and what someone did or does in nasl kind of becomes irrelevant.
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I don't think people should judge the NASL until the finals
then we'll see what it's really all about!
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On June 05 2011 14:36 Duravi wrote:Show nested quote +MC's hanging around at 3 in the morning the week he has to take on epic jet lag Goody is no where to be found NASL even gets someone who knows Goody to call his Personal phone and again gets no response 2-0 W.O. For MC Goody If Goody gets any portion of his $250 back it is a travesty.
It's alright, he's prolly gonna drop out. And then never be able to fight through the brackets to make it back later. Hes a pretty overrated player with crappy mechanics anyways.
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With all the W.O.'s and people dropping out NASL has become sort of... less prestigious in my eyes. It's not the fault of the organizers but the prevalence of no shows is getting pretty ridiculous.
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The great thing about the NASL format is that it is designed to insure the most consistent and well-rounded players.
The worst thing about the NASL format is that we're finding out how inconsistent and mediocre some of these 'top' players actually are.
It's like watching the NBA, and trying to follow a team that has no hope of winning or is tanking the season. The key difference is that even a losing team of players gets paid for showing up.
I hope next season the NASL, at the very least, they up with a system that rewards players for just qualifying and participating, and penalizes players that flake out.
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Wouldn't be the NASL without at least 2 walkovers!
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Well, even though I do not have the time to watch all those games, I check the results every morning. I really like the group structure where everybody plays everybody. And I am always sad when there are walkovers.
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This all could easily be solved with a winning fee per match i think.
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i think a problem of this format is, that players who perform bad have no incentive to show up and get slaughtered for nothing ..
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very disappointed in you, goody... -.-
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wtf so many walk-over. Those player should be punished if they do it too much.
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well, those players have to make a living of gaming. its their job, they are not some parent-financed teens goofing around to serve the community. So if there is no chance anymore to earn a dime, they'll probably not play. No money - no music. its that simple
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maybe distributing the pricepool a lot more, e.g. make the better 50% of players earn something (at least ~200$) would motivate to show up and be cannonfodder.
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Russian Federation676 Posts
I see players dont care about nasl and just miss it like "whatever". weird
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On June 05 2011 15:54 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 15:15 ilmman wrote:On June 05 2011 14:51 statik wrote:On June 05 2011 14:43 SlayerSBriefS wrote:
the one thing i can say about korean players is that they are at least much more professional, and even if they are losing they would fulfill their obligation to finish their matches.
they are also almost always on time i can understand korean players being more professional about sc2 but how did you come to your other 2 conclusions. because its part of our culture? lol from what I heard from rekrul koreans are rarely concerned about being places on time at all -.- unless im remembering things wrong. but i doubt i am
i would say the general population and also the fact that each individual is different.. We are not all the same duplicate robots that all flick our middle fingers up when someone dances...
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why isn't the nasl site being updated?...doesn't make a professional impression
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Beyonder
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On June 05 2011 18:21 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
i think a problem of this format is, that players who perform bad have no incentive to show up and get slaughtered for nothing ..
Yep. And the times at which Europeans have to play is just insane. Any experienced league hoster could have forecasted this T_T
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In most traditional league sports (at least here in sweden/europe) there is a central organisation that punishes teams that gives another team an unfair advantage by not doing their best. This is usually at the end of the season, when one team either is already qualified for playoffs, or already without chance to reach it. It can often be tricky decisions when for example the scenario is that a lot of juniors play instead of the established players, but not showing up or saying wo in advance would definately be penalised with more than just a loss.
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GOody and BratOk should be punished.
It's a shame. When I do not appeare to a football game in a damn LOW class, i have to pay 5€.
It's not all about the money but about the respect!
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On June 05 2011 18:36 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
well, those players have to make a living of gaming. its their job, they are not some parent-financed teens goofing around to serve the community. So if there is no chance anymore to earn a dime, they'll probably not play. No money - no music. its that simple
Tournaments need players but players need tournaments too. Works both ways. Players get invited on the basis that they will finish out their games, or money will be deducted from their deposit. Maybe next season they need to bump up the deposit if players are still forfeiting games.
At first I thought the deposit system was redundant, players were going to play all their games simply because of competitive spirit. However turns out they were right all along. There are dishonorable people such as you who only care about their own gains no matter how inconsequential.
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On June 05 2011 19:21 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:21 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
i think a problem of this format is, that players who perform bad have no incentive to show up and get slaughtered for nothing .. Yep. And the times at which Europeans have to play is just insane. Any experienced league hoster could have forecasted this T_T
If Goody had to wake at 3 am, that means Goody would have had to play at 8 pm.
I'm ok with playing a tournament at 8 pm.
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On June 05 2011 20:20 Shalaiyn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 19:21 Beyonder wrote:On June 05 2011 18:21 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
i think a problem of this format is, that players who perform bad have no incentive to show up and get slaughtered for nothing .. Yep. And the times at which Europeans have to play is just insane. Any experienced league hoster could have forecasted this T_T If MC had to wake at 3 am, that means Goody would have had to play at 8 pm. I'm ok with playing a tournament at 8 pm.
MC is in colombus so Goody would have to play more like 8AM, which still seems like it would be a fine time to play a tourny unless you're used to waking up every day at noon, but then he should have taken off the skirt and woke up early
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The main problems with the walkovers are the following:
1) walkovers aren't announced prior to the broadcast, so people are pissed off when they make time to watch their favourite player and then it doesn't happen. A small notification of walkovers at the beginning of the broadcast and/or at the end of the previous day's broadcast would go a LONG way to stop people from being so annoyed by this.
2) Some of the invited players have quit playing, are too busy to train or are just not very good (comparatively). Not only does this mean that those players don't show up half the time, but it also means there's far less of a relegation battle than there should be. When you have so many guys sitting on 0-8 or 1-7 and unlikely to win another match, you get the situation where people like BratOK can sit comfortably on a 3-5 record and know they're safe for next season.
This is one of those things that's going to sort itself out for next season, as those that aren't able to compete will be relegated and replaced by a bunch of people who've earned their spot through qualifiers. When you don't have those 1 or 2 guys in each division that are basically giving away free wins you'll have a much closer spread of points and suddenly everyone will be doing everything they can to get those one or two extra wins they need to retain their spot.
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On June 05 2011 18:36 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
well, those players have to make a living of gaming. its their job, they are not some parent-financed teens goofing around to serve the community. So if there is no chance anymore to earn a dime, they'll probably not play. No money - no music. its that simple
Not only is that a very bad attitude to have if you actually wanna be a profesional player, it's also wrong.
If the players just don't show up without a valid reason and not even informing NASL they'll have money deducted from their deposit. So in fact they would be making money just by showing up, doing two stupid rushes and lose.
It's really just some players wanna sleep in instead of putting in matches for the NASL that were kind enough to invite them into their league, and more importantly the fans who might have even stayed up to watch them play.
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On June 05 2011 19:21 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:21 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
i think a problem of this format is, that players who perform bad have no incentive to show up and get slaughtered for nothing .. Yep. And the times at which Europeans have to play is just insane. Any experienced league hoster could have forecasted this T_T
I think you meant the Koreans? The Euros probably have the BEST times, as they all play in the evening, while the Americans end up having to play in the afternoon. It's the Koreans who have to wake up at 3-4 A.M.
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The level of professionalism shown by pro gamers is very low at times.
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Of course it's bad and unpro from the players to miss games just because they are safe in the next season, have no chance to make it to the playoffs or what ever...
As someone here mentioned before:
Tournaments need players, but players need tournaments too.
If you miss your games the league gets les interesting, the viewers (who in the end are the people who make it possible that we have such huge prize pools) get annoyed etc.
But this is of course one of the many NASL problems, which they will hopefully solve for the next season.
They a) need a different format (in which it suxx for every player to lose any game) and/or b) Players need to be punished due to better rules. E.g. like in the ESL (at least in the German Pro Series they do it like this): If a player gets too many penalty points per season, he will be disqualified (which in the NASL would e.g. mean: banned for the next season) or he will even lose some x% of his prize money in this season (or even for future seasons, if he doesnt make it in the money now).
But hey, I actually feel like the walkovers are by for not the biggest problems:
- Bad communication (was mentioned before, so no long explanation needed)...
- their website needs some tweaks (I mainly mean the content, although I dislike the design too - seriously, no information on the leagues format?)...
- imho they shouldnt run a show on the MLG weekend for their own good - but ok, this would look like a sign of weakness (basically saying: MLG is more important than we are) etc.
Anyways, we still saw many many great games and casts this season, amazing players for a first season and im sure the playoffs will be a hell lot of fun - and season 2 will be even better =)
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On June 05 2011 22:37 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 19:21 Beyonder wrote:On June 05 2011 18:21 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
i think a problem of this format is, that players who perform bad have no incentive to show up and get slaughtered for nothing .. Yep. And the times at which Europeans have to play is just insane. Any experienced league hoster could have forecasted this T_T I think you meant the Koreans? The Euros probably have the BEST times, as they all play in the evening, while the Americans end up having to play in the afternoon. It's the Koreans who have to wake up at 3-4 A.M.
Yeah, the play times was the number one concern for me as I have been taking 2 hour "lunch breaks" from work ... Not just that, I haven't played a single NASL match so far with warmup games. I'm sure the Koreans have hard time waking up at like 4 AM to play this. The Europeans play at like 9 PM which is for majority of players, it's quite optimal.
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On June 05 2011 19:56 DoubleB wrote:
GOody and BratOk should be punished.
It's a shame. When I do not appeare to a football game in a damn LOW class, i have to pay 5€.
It's not all about the money but about the respect!
How do you know that Brat_Ok didn't run into trouble? You can't foresee the future, something really IMPORTANT might've come up for god sake.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
These no shows are getting out of hand. It's so sad to see players not taking a tournament as big as this seriously.
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yeah think players need to be reminded that even if they cant qualify for the main event, they have a moral obligation to the tournament and the viewers to make an effort to play.. im sure things come up and some simply couldnt make it. but given the number of no shows seems like at least some just didnt care to come.
maybe nasl can put in a system that penalizes excessive no shows by making them not eligible for next tourney if players cant provide a good reason or warn nasl in advance
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The KGB finally caught up with bratok
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Brat had a playoff spot to fight for as well so I dont know why he skipped at all. Goody had nothing to fight for but Brat at least had a shot at making it tofinal 16
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On June 05 2011 20:44 Merano wrote:The group standings before this round were incorrect in the OP. See http://nasl.tv/Standings .
how abot telling me whats wrong?
anyone else wana do the LR thread for tonight?
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