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On May 31 2011 19:35 Sc2Null wrote: Shame when 2 base toss can serverly outproduce a 3/4 base zerg...shame
He had 3/4 base, but only 2 base worth of drones at some point. Then blink came when the roaches focucedfired there for some reason. Choya outplayed Zenio there, stop the toss-whine.
If its not forcefields, its blink, if its not blink its colossi. Zergs should stop whining and accept a loss once in a while.
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On May 31 2011 19:35 Amui wrote: Zenio looks disgusted in himself.
Yeah, it must be embarrassing for him to lose vs Choya ...
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Choya's build was really really good.
Zenio was expecting a 2 base 7gate attack after sacrificing the ovie, but Choya went DT's to abuse Zenio's lack of detection since he was spending resources on making army, when Zenio does spend resources on detection, he couldnt continue 100% production on army and Choya outmacros him with the 7gate all-in
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On May 31 2011 19:27 Piggiez wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 19:23 SundeR. wrote: Is Choya always this completely obnoxious? I don't get this kid. Fucking strange. Do you always walk around with a stick up your ass? He's just psyching himself.
Are you kidding? If I saw some kid doing that in the booth across from me I would six-pool as well.
On May 31 2011 19:37 cyclone25 wrote:Yeah, it must be embarrassing for him to lose vs Choya ...
It actually is pretty embarrassing, which is why he is disgusted in himself. Pretty self explanatory.
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On May 31 2011 19:36 Alkior wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 19:33 Goibon wrote:On May 31 2011 19:30 Alkior wrote: I forgot I have to get 5 cavaties filled and take out 3 wisdom teeth in the same day :<
How bad will this hurt? o.O I had my wisdoms out 1-2 months ago. I had a sore throat for a few days and the dentist cut my tongue somehow and that was actually the most painful thing over the next few days tbh =/ Your dentist should be fired!!! Well it did take him about 20 minutes to get one of the teeth out. Surprised he didn't do more damage lol
I feel bad for lauging at Artosis when he had his wisdoms out that time. Although the ice cream, that bit was hilarious.
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On May 31 2011 19:35 bennyaus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 19:34 Mailing wrote: Blink never fails unless you can make 20 hydra or Roach/Infestor... >.> I am a Terran player so I may be wrong, but I've watched alot of replay and stream to notice that. Blink stalkers of 2 bases can kill 80% of Zerg unless the Zerg has 2-3 spine crawler. You can't have infestor in time to a well-timed blink stalkers attack. Zerg has to defend it with Roach, lings only.
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On May 31 2011 19:35 Sc2Null wrote: Shame when 2 base toss can serverly outproduce a 3/4 base zerg...shame
You mean 2 base toss can outproduce 2 base zerg when the toss has almost twice the harvesters right? =)
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Cutesy build from Choya, I liked the Zealot warp in to deny the third. DT follow up into a blink timing was nice, even if the DT's are nullified you can always make archons later if you want.
Still a bit shaky at times, but he didn't play that one too badly.
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On May 31 2011 19:37 Maskedsatyr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 19:35 Zedders wrote:On May 31 2011 19:33 Insomniac22 wrote: Y U NO BURROW? Maybe because there's an obsever? This is why I hate these casters, who the hell would burrow whhen theres an observer. Might as well do damage Wolf, "looks like hes overmicroing, should be targetting down these stalkers" shut up Wolf He was definitely over-microing... He kept running the roaches past the stalkers to finish off the low hp stalkers.
At tt point it doesn't even matter..he was down 20 workers
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On May 31 2011 19:37 b_unnies wrote: Choya's build was really really good.
Zenio was expecting a 2 base 7gate attack after sacrificing the ovie, but Choya went DT's to abuse Zenio's lack of detection since he was spending resources on making army, when Zenio does spend resources on detection, he couldnt continue 100% production on army and Choya outmacros him with the 7gate all-in
Agreed, definitely stealing that build when I off-race....
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On May 31 2011 19:37 MechKing wrote: fOu seems like such a close-knit team lol. didn't their old coach quit so choya had to take over all coaching duties?
Yup. He took over after they got knocked out of the first GTSL I think.
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On May 31 2011 19:37 b_unnies wrote: Choya's build was really really good.
Zenio was expecting a 2 base 7gate attack after sacrificing the ovie, but Choya went DT's to abuse Zenio's lack of detection since he was spending resources on making army, when Zenio does spend resources on detection, he couldnt continue 100% production on army and Choya outmacros him with the 7gate all-in That was the only good thing about the game though. Everything else just looked so sloppy from both players.
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On May 31 2011 19:35 Sc2Null wrote: Shame when 2 base toss can serverly outproduce a 3/4 base zerg...shame I totally agree... because that's telling as to how bad the macro of that specific Zerg player is. Not really sure what's up with Zenio, he kept letting Choya do a ton of damage to him, and almost seems to have missed the last few months of metagame shifts going on in ZvP (roach/hydra, going pure roach vs. blink stalkers?). That match was just painful to watch
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Match Three is starting Soon
sC vs HyperDub
First map will be on Xel'naga Caverns
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TODAY INDEED MARKS THE BEGINNING OF CHOYA'S RETURN TO POWER....
HIS JOURNEY HAS JUST BEGUN.....
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Im still getting surprised of how different gateway units look. Some times against zerg it looks like the gateway units on their own just do nothing. Pew pew stalkers doing nothing. But this game with Zenio and Choya it felt the other way around. They looked very strong. Its so weird since neither player had any stat upgrade advantages.
GG, I had hoped Zenio would take this match though
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Really nice build from Choya. Maybe becoming a coach did help him after all as he seems to have a really good understanding of how the match-up works.
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On May 31 2011 19:35 Zedders wrote:Maybe because there's an obsever? This is why I hate these casters, who the hell would burrow whhen theres an observer. Might as well do damage Wolf, "looks like hes overmicroing, should be targetting down these stalkers" shut up Wolf Wolf is actually right man. especially against blink stalkers, focusing each stalker 1 by 1 is not the best. unless you have just the right amount of roaches to kill a stalker in 1 volley, you will either way overkill each stalker which wastes roach shots, or you wont kill it and the stalker blinks back.
And even if theres an observer, burrowing increases the roach regen.
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whats up with this tournament ? Mc, Jinro, Zenio and a few other good players are out. .
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On May 31 2011 19:37 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 19:35 Sc2Null wrote: Shame when 2 base toss can serverly outproduce a 3/4 base zerg...shame He had 3/4 base, but only 2 base worth of drones at some point. Then blink came when the roaches focucedfired there for some reason. Choya outplayed Zenio there, stop the toss-whine. If its not forcefields, its blink, if its not blink its colossi. Zergs should stop whining and accept a loss once in a while.
What the hell are you talking about lol. This isn't about race whinning its more about macro mechanics which can make toss produce units that are stronger just as fast if not faster than zerg can. I could care less about choya or zenio since they have 0% chance of winning this tournament just something I noticed with all this 6-gating going on vs zerg lately.
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On May 31 2011 19:37 provrorsbarn wrote: Im sad for Zenio cuz I feel that Choya is probably one of the worst if not the worst player in the whole tournament..... Choya was just a scrub at BW (he starts looking funny after 10 minute mark in every single replay of him) and he is not different skillwise in sc2 and he can win games? That's something.
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