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Further balance whining will result in severe bans. Time stamp 21:09 KST.
crazykirsch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States94 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2101
2 things FD did stood out for me that game.

#1 was FD losing all of his Broodlords to those Vrays, he could have at least split them up better, when he sent like 2 up to kill the pylon he could have then sent the main batch south so they could at least clean up that base and make the Vrays travel farther to kill them, but nope.

#2 was flying his mutas through stalkers to engage Vrays, but as long as Ace had good control, he wasn't going to have any other choice anyways at that point.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2102
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VS

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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2103
On May 26 2011 21:12 Shikyo wrote:
But yeah he had enough gas and minerals for like... 15 Infestors. You think 15 Infestors could have turned the tide? I definitely think that they'd have been a much better idea than mutas.

I think Ace sniped the Infestation Pit during the base trade battle.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Larp
Profile Joined March 2011
United States206 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2104
I had to rage afk to get some alcohol after that match. Fruitdealer just threw it away at the end. Frustrating.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2105
GO MKP §§§§
Please please please. Each time MKP plays, my stomach hurts because of stress.
dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2106
FD totally screwed the end up.... though his opening was perfect.
...
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2107
Wow, I never realized how cute Squirtle is, just has a really adorable face :-o Now I don't want either of them to lose because I don't want to see the sadness :-(
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
VictorX
Profile Joined April 2011
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 12:14:19
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2108
The issue isn't unit composition, greater spire snipe, etc.etc.etc.etc.

The difference is the mindset between the two players.

When fruitdealer lost his 4th base he didn't retake it until after he realized he isn't winning the game easily. He had BroodLords AND a roach ball and with this total map dominance did not bother to take a 5th or 6th base. He didn't even bother to shat creep over the enemy's expansions. FD was playing for the BroodLord push, he had no plans post-BL push. He didn't even use that excess gas to make a mass of burrowable versatile infestors, instead he made panic-speedlings/spines, which ultimately mineral-starved him

When Ace saw the BroodLord push he immediately moved to secure additional bases for a base-trade scenario. He moves his whole army up and around the top, knowing that if he sweeps FD's expansions, he has a chance of victory, especially since he killed the spire and has trump voidrays. He sunk all his excess gas into high templar, because in any low econ situation, caster units are good to have

Ace played for the long term advantage, FD played for the immediate advantage. This difference was the game. GG
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2109
MKP if you don't win, i'm gonna cry a river!!!!!
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2110
MKP Gogogogo
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2111
On May 26 2011 21:12 wristuzi wrote:
MKP so handsome ^^


hehe, <3
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Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 12:14:31
May 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#2112
People... how can you actually be whining at all?
The win/loss stats in PvZ are superclose to 50/50.
In this case it's fruitdealers own fault he lost, that has nothing to do with him playing zerg and Ace playing Protoss.

Can we please just enjoy the games?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
May 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#2113
Instead of Ace and fruitdealer. And then Ensnare and Revival.

Should have been seeded as Fruitdealer Revival

And Ace Ensnare. Gom seed might have kinda given us a round of 32 or 16 matchup early.
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bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
May 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#2114
mkp is so cute.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
May 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#2115
Ace sniped FD's spire and infestation pit and you guys are complaining about balance. FD should have made a hydra den and hoped Ace didn't snipe that too.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
May 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#2116
Thinking about it, Infestors would've helped him out, and it's not like he did not have the money or the infrastructure. but that came down to pretty nice decision making by ace when his main and expos were burning down.
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
May 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#2117
Sad that FD lost, but at least I get all my LB right so far today LOL
Mercury-
Profile Joined December 2010
Great Britain804 Posts
May 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#2118
Decent maps except for Terminus. MKP can do this!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#2119
On May 26 2011 21:13 MrCon wrote:
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VS

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Ok ok, let's move onto the next game hey?

Because MKP vs Squirtle. This is what I was after! MOTHERSHIP ME SQUIRTLE!
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KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
May 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#2120
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MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
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