• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:25
CEST 01:25
KST 08:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy19ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy3GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding6Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
JD's Ro24 review Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
JD's Ro24 review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The China Politics Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1760 users

[GSL] Super Tourney ro64 D4 - Page 108

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 106 107 108 109 110 133 Next
Further balance whining will result in severe bans. Time stamp 21:09 KST.
DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
May 26 2011 12:16 GMT
#2141
On May 26 2011 21:15 probablywrong wrote:
wow. MKP's GSL 2011 pattern: Runner up, ro32, Runner up, ro32. hope he breaks it this season!


He can lose this series now to break that pattern..lol j/k <3 mkp
Merkd
Profile Joined May 2011
88 Posts
May 26 2011 12:16 GMT
#2142
Cmon MKP show em whos boss
They fill you with false hopes, they speak visions from their own minds.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
May 26 2011 12:16 GMT
#2143
Just looking at the brackets made me realize how little very good Zergs are in the GSL system. Compared to the amount of amazing Terrans and Protoss that I think could take this there is basically just Nestea and Leenock now (not balance whining, just observing).
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 26 2011 12:16 GMT
#2144
On May 26 2011 21:15 Drazerk wrote:
Match Four will be Squirtle vs Marineking

First map will be on Metapolis

Marine king is located at the 12 o clock

While Squirtle is positioned at the 3 o clock


2:40

Nexus first for Squirtle

1 rax and no gas yet for Marine king
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
May 26 2011 12:16 GMT
#2145
squirtle is a baller, was that nexus first or gate first, but either way
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
May 26 2011 12:16 GMT
#2146
Ooooh 16 Nexus
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
May 26 2011 12:16 GMT
#2147
He won against GuineaPig...
WriterMaru
Anomandaris
Profile Joined July 2010
Afghanistan440 Posts
May 26 2011 12:16 GMT
#2148
ace playing well.
Fruitdealer playing well, but falling aprt in the end.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
May 26 2011 12:16 GMT
#2149
These Startale protosses are greedy as hell
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#2150
I can't see Squirtle winning this, but if he does, i'll maybe stop considering him overrated.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
May 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#2151
Missed the first 3 sets, but glad I get to see MKP and Squirtle, one of my 2 favorite players
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
dokugami
Profile Joined December 2010
United States59 Posts
May 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#2152
I still think FD lost that game when he decided he wanted to wait 100 in game seconds for his Spire to be rebuilt so he could get mutas instead of a den which takes less than half as long and would've don't a lot better against nothing but stalkers and vr when defending his last mining base.
kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
May 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#2153
On May 26 2011 21:13 VictorX wrote:
The issue isn't unit composition, greater spire snipe, etc.etc.etc.etc.

The difference is the mindset between the two players.

When fruitdealer lost his 4th base he didn't retake it until after he realized he isn't winning the game easily. He had BroodLords AND a roach ball and with this total map dominance did not bother to take a 5th or 6th base. He didn't even bother to shat creep over the enemy's expansions. FD was playing for the BroodLord push, he had no plans post-BL push. He didn't even use that excess gas to make a mass of burrowable versatile infestors, instead he made panic-speedlings/spines, which ultimately mineral-starved him

When Ace saw the BroodLord push he immediately moved to secure additional bases for a base-trade scenario. He moves his whole army up and around the top, knowing that if he sweeps FD's expansions, he has a chance of victory, especially since he killed the spire and has trump voidrays. He sunk all his excess gas into high templar, because in any low econ situation, caster units are good to have

Ace played for the long term advantage, FD played for the immediate advantage. This difference was the game. GG

his 4rth got sniped 2 or 3 times by a small force of stalkers + zealots
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 12:18:11
May 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#2154
On May 26 2011 21:14 JayKayJK wrote:
Did I just hear "Startale Squirt-Lee?"

Wow.

I was always laughing a little bit inside when I heard Squirtles name until someone told me it's a pokemon xD

Man, games like the last one hurt so much when you are a FD fan - that is typical fruitdealer
realstarcrafter
Profile Joined March 2011
92 Posts
May 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#2155
On May 26 2011 21:15 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 21:12 SenorChang wrote:
On May 26 2011 21:10 Alpina wrote:
On May 26 2011 20:47 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 26 2011 20:44 Alpina wrote:
On May 26 2011 20:42 Yaotzin wrote:
Phew Zergs back to balance whining, all is well in the world again.


Say what FD could have done? I don't see you can defend vs. this well executed all-in


Right, it's a completely flawless strategy that always wins. Don't be ridiculous. I'm so sick of seeing people coming in and going "OKAY THEN, WHAT COULD HE HAVE DONE?!" while throwing up their hands in desperation with tears rolling down their faces. Look at Nestea's ZvP winrate: 85%. Or Losira's: 72%. They must be doing something right to be defeating Toss players with such consistency. Try using your brain for once.


Lol your argument is so good. "This all-in is ok, because Nestea has 85% win rate". Do you even read what you write? What does nestea has to do here at all lol?

I think his other point has merit, before claiming imbalance, just look at the possibilities that exist. There is almost always a way to deal with something, don't let frustration blind you.


I am not frustrated, I just often see zerg being crushed by this all-in and don't really see how can you defend that.

It's still sad when you see someone tried everything they can to specifically stop that right from the start of the game and still failed.
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
May 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#2156
Isnt that BW player s2 and not Ace in that picture lol?
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 12:18:15
May 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#2157
lol is it difficult to punish a nexus first toss as terran?
Look at MC 1gate expo?
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#2158
On May 26 2011 21:16 maryelizbethwinstead wrote:
I hope MKP doesn't get overconfident, Squirtle is a lot better than advertised.

MKP, kill him quick


Lol no way. I'm sure he watched all his games and he knows what Squirtle is capable of.
There's no way he's going into this thinking it's gonna be a walkover.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 26 2011 12:18 GMT
#2159
On May 26 2011 21:16 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 21:15 Drazerk wrote:
Match Four will be Squirtle vs Marineking

First map will be on Metapolis

Marine king is located at the 12 o clock

While Squirtle is positioned at the 3 o clock


2:40

Nexus first for Squirtle

1 rax and no gas yet for Marine king


5:20

Expansion for Marine king has finished

Squirtle now getting warp gate research
Shooks
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 12:18:50
May 26 2011 12:18 GMT
#2160
On May 26 2011 21:12 stevarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 21:11 Shooks wrote:
On May 26 2011 21:07 habeck wrote:
Imbalanced meta, the only thing which let ace win was Blink...


Or superior decision making? The decisions he made that game can easily be compared to Nestea's in he's match vs SC.

And people are still calling the matchup imba even after all the results? Lol.


I wouldn't necessarily call it superior decision making. There was really only one choice he could legitimately make.. which was to kill off fruit dealer's mining bases. Any other choice would have resulted in him losing and almost any pro protoss, in his situation, would likely make that one given they have the tech to blink stalkers to allow for mobility and the ability to avoid an engagement head-on with the opponents army.

I would just call it good use of blink.


Actually, he had a few choices to make. Most Protoss players would just try defend, and I'm sure he would have as well, but he saw FDs army and didn't see 1 anti air unit and instantly decided to counter attack while killing the broods with he's VR, while making a base on the high ground so he could cannon the small choke.

He completely outplayed FD there's no doubt, FD needed Infestors, you need infestors in general vs that mass blink army..Pretty sure every zerg should know that by now..I guess not.
Prev 1 106 107 108 109 110 133 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
RO32 Group A
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
ZZZero.O223
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft339
Ketroc 83
ProTech4
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 438
ZZZero.O 223
910 33
NaDa 8
Dota 2
canceldota331
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor182
Other Games
summit1g17587
gofns17225
FrodaN2068
ROOTCatZ15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick863
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH105
• RyuSc2 62
• musti20045 33
• HeavenSC 25
• davetesta24
• Adnapsc2 22
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 3DClanTV 37
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4893
Other Games
• Scarra584
• tFFMrPink 13
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10h 35m
WardiTV Team League
11h 35m
OSC
13h 35m
BSL
19h 35m
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
IPSL
19h 35m
Artosis vs TBD
Napoleon vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Wardi Open
1d 10h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 16h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
[ Show More ]
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Escore
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
IPSL
6 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.