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Further balance whining will result in severe bans. Time stamp 21:09 KST.
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
May 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#2081
Why didn't fruit dealer split his massive army and destroy ace's buildings?It's not like he had any chance in that last fight, were his decisions as retarded as I think they were or am I missing something?
blah_blah
Profile Joined April 2011
346 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2082
On May 26 2011 21:09 theMarkovian wrote:
Indeed, Ace planned it out brilliantly, Blinking in to pick off the Spire, knowing there are no Hydra's around, and going Voidray was the essence of his comeback.


I think you're giving him way too much credit; obviously he played great but he had no choice but to do what he did and pray that Fruitdealer responded in a terribly suboptimal way. He didn't really 'plan' it out in any reasonable sense.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2083
On May 26 2011 21:10 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 20:47 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 26 2011 20:44 Alpina wrote:
On May 26 2011 20:42 Yaotzin wrote:
Phew Zergs back to balance whining, all is well in the world again.


Say what FD could have done? I don't see you can defend vs. this well executed all-in


Right, it's a completely flawless strategy that always wins. Don't be ridiculous. I'm so sick of seeing people coming in and going "OKAY THEN, WHAT COULD HE HAVE DONE?!" while throwing up their hands in desperation with tears rolling down their faces. Look at Nestea's ZvP winrate: 85%. Or Losira's: 72%. They must be doing something right to be defeating Toss players with such consistency. Try using your brain for once.


Lol your argument is so good. "This all-in is ok, because Nestea has 85% win rate". Do you even read what you write? What does nestea has to do here at all lol?

I think his other point has merit, before claiming imbalance, just look at the possibilities that exist. There is almost always a way to deal with something, don't let frustration blind you.
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flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2084
Insta-rebuild the spire or make infestors with your damn 2500 gas trustfund and that game is won.

Damn you fruitdealer for ruining my liquibet!
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2085
On May 26 2011 21:07 Vapaach wrote:
All the people who voted no for game 3 must be zergs lol.


I'm a huge FD fan and I still voted yes.
Love is more fun than hate.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2086
On May 26 2011 21:11 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 21:08 clusen wrote:
On May 26 2011 21:07 Pekkz wrote:
On May 26 2011 21:06 realstarcrafter wrote:
On May 26 2011 21:05 Vaeila wrote:
Why would FD go Mutas vs Blink stalker+Archon, has he ever heard of hydras?

hydra = terrible against templars


And muta is not?

Mutas can go and kill the P base, if he had svaed all his Mutas he would've won


Hydras can only defend in that case

Mutas were a better choice, he just used them in a really dumb way

Mutas are quite good against storms as well. Fast enough to dodge the storms and have the highest chance of sniping templars. That said, the amount of blink stalkers and lack of upgrades for mutas made the transition a bad choice. Just a few hydras to counter the voids would probably have been the best choice.

Or he could have built a few extra queens and brought them with his Broods while sacking the nat/main.

He had quite a few options and chose none of them
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2087
If MKP loses. I will be so sad now.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2088
If I recall, the practice regiment for TSL isnt very strict compared to the other houses (not even going to compare em to BW >.>).

More practice please.
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2089
so sad, fruitdealer played soooo well up til then, but I must say its really fail to not have the potential for AA. you dont need to have hydras or corruptors but you shuold have a Hydra den or spire, preferably both, at that point so you can handle those switches. He had the rescources and then some
Begtse
Profile Joined October 2010
France135 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2090
Waiting for the day a zerg can make a comeback like ace vs a P player...Like it would ever happen...

Make 3 rays and win the game!

Lol at people saying FD had to make hydras...Who is using hydras anymore?

User was temp banned for this post.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2091
But yeah he had enough gas and minerals for like... 15 Infestors. You think 15 Infestors could have turned the tide? I definitely think that they'd have been a much better idea than mutas.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2092
On May 26 2011 21:11 Giriath wrote:
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On May 26 2011 21:06 Yaotzin wrote:
Pity fucking ensnare screwed my LB as usual. Gogo MKP.


Same story for me. Wasn't Ensnare decent some seasons ago?

Yeah he was good in beta/release times, he's one of those guys who just got left behind.
Cadaver!!
Profile Joined December 2010
Hungary390 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2093
On May 26 2011 21:09 meetle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 21:07 Pekkz wrote:
On May 26 2011 21:06 realstarcrafter wrote:
On May 26 2011 21:05 Vaeila wrote:
Why would FD go Mutas vs Blink stalker+Archon, has he ever heard of hydras?

hydra = terrible against templars


And muta is not?


he should have had something to defend his Brood lords to begin with.

This, pretty much. It's so painful to watch those magnificent unit left to die.
FD, man, my hero fucked this 3rd game up big time.
I have a folder labeled day9_dailies where I store my horseporn. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2094
Epic game... probably the best high level come back I've seen in competitive SC2. I say this because the other contenders are really TvT's... but mules and even some zvx are different with how much you can produce or pump out. Ace didn't give up and it paid off as fruitdealer made a lot of mistakes, which he took advantage of by playing the best he good. You rarely, rarely, see a macro game with a protoss who has been broken come back and win against a mining zerg. Intense.
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 12:13:25
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2095
The fact that FD made exactly 2 Infestors and then attacked with his roaches and reacted wrong imo to the Void Rays. Instead of making a lot of Infestors(1500 Gas in the End, also Roaches beeing light on gas) and winning the game with Infestors.

FD threw that game away with every decision he made after the Attack on Aces matchup. If you are complaining about Protoss you are either trolling or just stupid and ignorant.
Ezekyle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia607 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2096
On May 26 2011 21:08 sc2olorin wrote:
lol at zerg QQ and downvoting that amazing game

Player A plays well and starts to dominate then Player B goes Super Saiyan and wins it = amazing comeback game
Player A dominates all game and then loses to 2 void rays because he made zero anti-air = shitty game.
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2097
MKP so handsome ^^
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2098
FruitDealer totally, totally threw that game away. Ace did very well to capitalise on his mistakes when FD has obviously studied his style and knows exactly how to crush it. He's going to have to be less predictable against opponents who will be studying him.

Anyway, let's go MarineKing!
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
May 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#2099
On May 26 2011 21:11 Shooks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 21:07 habeck wrote:
Imbalanced meta, the only thing which let ace win was Blink...


Or superior decision making? The decisions he made that game can easily be compared to Nestea's in he's match vs SC.

And people are still calling the matchup imba even after all the results? Lol.


I wouldn't necessarily call it superior decision making. There was really only one choice he could legitimately make.. which was to kill off fruit dealer's mining bases. Any other choice would have resulted in him losing and almost any pro protoss, in his situation, would likely make that one given they have the tech to blink stalkers to allow for mobility and the ability to avoid an engagement head-on with the opponents army.

I would just call it good use of blink.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
imnotwearingpants
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
May 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#2100
On May 26 2011 21:10 LeopoldStotch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 21:09 PeZuY wrote:
FD outplayed the last game but lost because of stupid mistake. Still, that was pretty ridiculous.


Massing roach and having shitty anti air is outplaying someone? Brilliant analysis.

massing stalker almost dictates it
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