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Flying_Cake
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 22:17:46
May 19 2011 22:12 GMT
#441
Is there even 10 teams? Maybe Tastetosis, Huk, Jinro and the foreigners in Korea can form a team?

So i guess we will see FOX or NSHoSeo?
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
May 19 2011 22:13 GMT
#442
Am I right to assume that the MSL format is the same as this from 2009?
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1. Four players in each group, two matches (let's call them Match A and Match B).
2. Winners of Match A and Match B play each other. Let's call this Match C.
3. Winner of Match C advances to MSL Round of 16.
...
4. Losers of Match A and B play each other. Let's call this Match D.
5. Winner of Match D plays the loser of Match C. Let's call this Match E.
6. Winner of this match advances to MSL Ro16.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

e.g.
Game 1: Player1<map>Player2
Game 2: Player3<map>Player4
Game 3: Player1<map>Player3 -> Player 1 Advances 1st in grp with 2-0
Game 4: Player2<map>Player4 -> Player 4 to up and down with 0-2
Game 5: Player2<map>Player3 -> Player 2 advances 2nd in grp with 2-1. Player 3 stays code S next season with 1-2.

Sounds like a better system

L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2011 22:20 GMT
#443
finally more gstl games! woot!
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
May 19 2011 22:25 GMT
#444
SC2 proleague is coming wow :o
sc2olorin
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
May 19 2011 22:33 GMT
#445
Man, GOM is so terrific. I will never stop buying premium tickets from them. They deserve all my money.
Kyouya
Profile Joined January 2008
Mexico318 Posts
May 19 2011 22:41 GMT
#446
On May 19 2011 17:38 DetrA wrote:
So is the GSL panicking? They must be in trouble if they need foreigners in code S so badly.

What!?
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mDuo13
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States307 Posts
May 19 2011 22:47 GMT
#447
On May 20 2011 06:39 SpecFire wrote:
.........wtf i like brackets a LOT more. How is Winner vs Winner, Loser vs Loser any better than current system?!?!

Group play is freaking lame. So it's gonna practically be Group play until the finals?! Thats freaking stupid. Bracket play is a lot better. You get to predict matches and hype matches better. Brackets are fun to predict and also see who will face who ahead.

It's still bracket play from Ro16 onward, just like now. Only the Group Stage of Code S (Ro32) changes. The Winner vs Winner system makes it harder for a better player to get 4th in group stages. Take GSL March Group E as an example:

Current format
Game 1. NesTea < san
Game 2. BoxeR < Ensnare
Game 3. san > BoxeR
--> san advances, BoxeR to Up/Downs
Game 4. NesTea < Ensnare
--> Ensnare advances, NesTea to Up/Downs
Game 5. NesTea > BoxeR (3rd/4th place match)
Game 6. san > Ensnare (1st/2nd place match)

Game 6 doesn't have hardly anything on the line, since all it does is determine which side of the bracket each player ends up on. In fact, it could be advantageous to lose since the winner ends up on the same side of the bracket as MC.

New format (projected from same matchup results)
Game 1. NesTea < san
Game 2. BoxeR < Ensnare
Game 3. san > Ensnare
--> san advances in 1st place
Game 4. NesTea > BoxeR
--> BoxeR to up/downs in 4th place
Game 5. Ensnare > NesTea
--> NesTea stays in Code S (3rd place)
--> Ensnare advances in 2nd place

The end result is the same, but it's accomplished in fewer games, yet it keeps the suspense of not knowing who advances in the tournament through game 5, and it doesn't subject NesTea to up/down matches that he's going to win anyway.

Note that this is just a projection, and a lot of things could change with the matches being reordered, e.g. does BoxeR still cheese NesTea even though he's only 0-1 instead of 0-2 at this point? Naturally, the results of the matches could easily vary with the format changes. I don't think there's really a way to say whether this aspect is "better" or "worse" but the other advantages (stated above) still stand.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
May 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#448
On May 19 2011 17:38 DetrA wrote:
So is the GSL panicking? They must be in trouble if they need foreigners in code S so badly.


They are far from panicking. But yes foreigners are desperately needed. As there is only 1 in Code S atm and 1 in Code A.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
May 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#449
GSL opening its doors to foreigners is huge. koreans are gonna have a tough time i bet bc they dont study foreigners as mcuh as we stuy them.
DirtYLOu
Profile Joined May 2010
575 Posts
May 19 2011 22:58 GMT
#450
On May 20 2011 07:53 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 17:38 DetrA wrote:
So is the GSL panicking? They must be in trouble if they need foreigners in code S so badly.


They are far from panicking. But yes foreigners are desperately needed. As there is only 1 in Code S atm and 1 in Code A.



SC2 in Korea is getting bigger and bigger. I don't think they need Foreigners.

And i laughed at the one that said GSL is panicking <haha>


Damn, we are the ones that should panic. Why? Cuz i don't see any new faces compared to GSL.

And all we have is online tournaments, where they will have WHOLE MONTHS of offline ons
http://sc2ranks.com/c/9051/slayersteam/ <-- SlayerS players in Grandmaster !
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
May 19 2011 23:14 GMT
#451
This is excellent news. Expanding the importance of the GSTL is a great move.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
Mudfallz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States28 Posts
May 19 2011 23:18 GMT
#452
Very nice changes. I like how although the GSL is considered the top tournament (by most) they are still looking for ways to improve and give the fans what they want.

I also like the fact that MLG is trying to reach out and bridge the gap between regions and making Starcraft more meaningful out here in the West. Awesome all around

I can't wait to see what foreigners start to come over via MLG. Although it is kind of a shame that this wasn't already in place because I have heard around that Naniwa actually does want to compete in Korea (This may be wrong, but it's what I have been hearing.)

GJ GOM and MLG!
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
May 19 2011 23:25 GMT
#453
All of these changes are great. Also the fact that winner of MLG gets Code S should get more foreigners in Korea. But what happens if Bomber or a Code S Korean wins MLG? Do they get two seeds in GSL? (and no that's not serious I don't want a paragraph response about how stupid of an idea that is, but the first question is serious).
Frequencyy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States344 Posts
May 19 2011 23:35 GMT
#454
Yay I am gonna like this, now I don't have to wait a month to see my favorite players if they get knocked out of the GSL, I can see them in GSTL I like how they are popularizing MLG, they must have an agreement with them as I have a feeling MLG is gonna start getting a lot more players now that there is a huge initiative besides a fun time and a possible chance of prize money, now you can get a shot to go to Korea and compete in the gsl!
You will not do incredible things without an incredible dream
Docmedical
Profile Joined November 2010
Libya75 Posts
May 19 2011 23:49 GMT
#455
If the winner of MLG is a korean code S player, the invite would go to the 2nd place winner. It doesn't strictly say that, but we can imply that this will occur because the code S player would be forced to decline and then the 2nd placed player will take it.
derp
FrodaN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
754 Posts
May 19 2011 23:52 GMT
#456
This is awesome!!!!!
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6119 Posts
May 19 2011 23:55 GMT
#457
Someone make a fantasy SC2 GSTL league!
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
May 19 2011 23:56 GMT
#458
So GOM is so awesome is every way possible. <3
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DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
May 20 2011 00:10 GMT
#459
I'm pretty impressed to tell the truth they're consistently coming up with ways to encourage me to fork out some cash, to enjoy their product. From my perspective the value proposition just keeps getting better.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
May 20 2011 00:16 GMT
#460
On May 20 2011 07:12 Flying_Cake wrote:
Is there even 10 teams? Maybe Tastetosis, Huk, Jinro and the foreigners in Korea can form a team?

So i guess we will see FOX or NSHoSeo?

IM and NSHoSea will fill the other two spots, think are the teams that will be added to make the 10 I'm fairly sure.
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