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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 23 2011 03:15 GMT
#521
On May 19 2011 17:31 shire wrote:
In the event there is no MLG, the Code S will be given by wild-card.

I don't understand that, what's a wild card?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Silent331
Profile Joined June 2010
United States356 Posts
May 23 2011 04:02 GMT
#522
theres still blank days, need moar starcraft!!!

lol all kidding aside i really like this over the last system, but they still need code A to take place over <2 weeks, the month long qualifier deal is still an issue
They cant beat you, They only hope you beat yourself.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 23 2011 04:36 GMT
#523
On May 23 2011 12:15 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 17:31 shire wrote:
In the event there is no MLG, the Code S will be given by wild-card.

I don't understand that, what's a wild card?

It's just someone who missed out through normal qualification but gets a spot later. There's several ways they can do it but we don't know that at this point until Gom comes up with their rules for this. It could be invitational (they could pick someone they deem awesome), it could be a separate quick tournament to pick a winner for the spot, it could be the best person who failed to make it in up and down matches.

We don't know until Gom explain the rules for it because there's so many different ways they could go about handling it. Don't worry about it tbh. Gom will decide how they're going to decide the wild card and we will know then. Very vague until then.
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 23 2011 04:50 GMT
#524
On May 23 2011 13:36 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:15 VIB wrote:
On May 19 2011 17:31 shire wrote:
In the event there is no MLG, the Code S will be given by wild-card.

I don't understand that, what's a wild card?

It's just someone who missed out through normal qualification but gets a spot later. There's several ways they can do it but we don't know that at this point until Gom comes up with their rules for this. It could be invitational (they could pick someone they deem awesome), it could be a separate quick tournament to pick a winner for the spot, it could be the best person who failed to make it in up and down matches.

We don't know until Gom explain the rules for it because there's so many different ways they could go about handling it. Don't worry about it tbh. Gom will decide how they're going to decide the wild card and we will know then. Very vague until then.

Oh ok cool, thanks Hope they find another way to get a foreigner in there ^^
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jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
May 23 2011 10:45 GMT
#525
On May 20 2011 14:51 coldasice wrote:
What about the subscription price? Any news on the price?

I guess 30-40$ for 3 months.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
May 24 2011 05:36 GMT
#526
This is a way better format, i hope for the love of god people make more teamleagues.
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bobq
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States136 Posts
May 24 2011 16:57 GMT
#527
On May 21 2011 05:35 p4NDemik wrote:
More team league matches can only be a good thing. Everything else is extraneous imo, but the fact that GSTL is expanding brings a smile to my face.


This. As someone who's been buying GSTL tickets and not GSL tickets, I'm so happy about this change I'll gladly buy both if they lump them together like they seem likely to do now.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 09 2011 16:45 GMT
#528
I think more should be done to 'protect' the best players, like what happens with MLG with the pool play and double elimination. Right now there's so many upsets in the GSL it completely devalues the suprise when an MC/Nestea/MVP is eliminated and it means we consistantly get crappy finals/semi finals.

I don't mind seeing upsets or good new players come through, but it would be a lot more epic/exciting to me if when we hit the Ro8 it was 6 of the worlds top 10 players and 2 outsiders, instead of 2 top players and 6 outsiders.

Fortunately we've not had a GSL yet where someone who really isn't top quality wins it (in spite of many finalists).
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
June 09 2011 17:20 GMT
#529
On June 10 2011 01:45 Blasphemi wrote:
I think more should be done to 'protect' the best players, like what happens with MLG with the pool play and double elimination. Right now there's so many upsets in the GSL it completely devalues the suprise when an MC/Nestea/MVP is eliminated and it means we consistantly get crappy finals/semi finals.

I don't mind seeing upsets or good new players come through, but it would be a lot more epic/exciting to me if when we hit the Ro8 it was 6 of the worlds top 10 players and 2 outsiders, instead of 2 top players and 6 outsiders.

Fortunately we've not had a GSL yet where someone who really isn't top quality wins it (in spite of many finalists).


I soooo completely disagree with this. If you protect the "best" players, then people like Gretorp get to keep their seeds for much longer than they really should. The format change works well enough so that weak players don't make it to the finals on a fluke.

Besides, they protect good players enough by sending them to Up and Downs rather than sending them straight to code A, or worse, making them re-qualify.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 09 2011 17:51 GMT
#530
On June 10 2011 02:20 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 01:45 Blasphemi wrote:
I think more should be done to 'protect' the best players, like what happens with MLG with the pool play and double elimination. Right now there's so many upsets in the GSL it completely devalues the suprise when an MC/Nestea/MVP is eliminated and it means we consistantly get crappy finals/semi finals.

I don't mind seeing upsets or good new players come through, but it would be a lot more epic/exciting to me if when we hit the Ro8 it was 6 of the worlds top 10 players and 2 outsiders, instead of 2 top players and 6 outsiders.

Fortunately we've not had a GSL yet where someone who really isn't top quality wins it (in spite of many finalists).


I soooo completely disagree with this. If you protect the "best" players, then people like Gretorp get to keep their seeds for much longer than they really should. The format change works well enough so that weak players don't make it to the finals on a fluke.

Besides, they protect good players enough by sending them to Up and Downs rather than sending them straight to code A, or worse, making them re-qualify.


There is obviously a middle ground between the Gretorp situation and the mess GSL has of almost all the good players getting knocked out early every season.

Even the MLG format while not perfect at least creates great finals with MMA/Losira, Naniwa/Kiwi, Huk/Kiwi, Idra/Select etc.. There's never been an MLG which didn't end with two of the top players there meeting and this far outweighs the Gretorp issue. Plus it's not just the finals, we get to see Idra/MC, Idra/Thorzain, MMA/Idra, MC/Losira, Losira/MMA, MC/Thorzain, MC/Naniwa, Naniwa/Losira.

Almost all the combinations of top players meeting each other happens at an MLG. That's great it's exciting. I would love to see a GSL where we Nestea/MC, MC/MVP, Nestea/MKP, Nestea/Bomber and other combinations of that all in one season, but it never happens. We probably get one matchup like that per season in a Bo3/5/7.

Certainly I have no issue with a guy like Bomber, MMA etc.. coming through if they're good enough but it's not enjoyable that every GSL the Ro8 is full of people who've got there through nothing more than a mix of luck, cheese and a very favourable draw, it's so anti climatic and really cheapens the achievement of the guys like Bomber/MMA when they do make it far in Code S because so did Inca, Rain, Anypro, Hongun and many others who are nothing special.
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