EPTWCG 2011 Grand Finals - Page 370
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On December 10 2011 13:43 Tachion wrote: No one has.figured it out. T v P is like the hardest matchup for all high-level Korean Terrans. Obviously maps and balance changes have and new BO/strats for Protoss have significantly changed the T v P landscape. MVP never really adapted to the 2 forge style. His upgrades are always so late in TvP that the longer the game goes on the worse and worse it gets for him. Terran players probably need to work harder to find counters to recent protoss improvements. Jiakji's gone for thor/banshee stuff. Others have used hellions to wreck unscrupulous protosses (Some Korean T versus Huk recently?). But it seems the most viable counters so far have either been All-in (thor banshee stuff) or early game abuse (hellions v hapless stalkers). T v P is tough man. I guess it's time for Terrans to feel the pain that Tosses felt for aaaages lol | ||
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kagamin
United States191 Posts
On December 10 2011 17:20 Meself wrote: That can't be right...there's still a building there, only thing is you can walk over it. Can't be right because otherwise we would have seen it used. I know you can move burrowed roaches over lowered supply depots, so you could camp a burrowed roach on top of a lowered depot. Never heard of burrowing on top of a lowered depot though. | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On December 10 2011 17:11 allen_ami wrote: plz dont say g-league is a random league....its the best in china....i am begging you... Sorry I know that the G-league is pretty much the championship decider of China's scene. I meant "random" as in other leagues which aren't as regular / on at the moment. G league has only happened twice in the past year of starcraft 2 right? I know it's huge, but it's not as regular as the clan wars which NeoTV / PTSL have hosted. | ||
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Suohhen
United States59 Posts
On December 10 2011 17:22 zZygote wrote: I'm confused, why is it showing 2 asian guys instead of Rotterdam and his co-caster??? These games are shown on TV in Korea, Tasteosis and RottiWolf's steams are piggybacked on those broadcasts. That is why they look terrible and they can't control the camera, honestly it makes the commenting terrible, but it can be funny at times. The same thing for the battery dying, it should be a huge embarassment for Samsung, but really it will just lead to more people talking about it. Kinda a funny world. | ||
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NoobieOne
United States1183 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
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CAPSLOCKED
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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madmax64
United States55 Posts
On December 10 2011 17:27 NoobieOne wrote: WTF is this build! this makes no sense! pretty standard build to everything, honestly this is me when i first started edit; i would have died by now | ||
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R!!
Brazil938 Posts
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Lavi
Bangladesh793 Posts
On December 10 2011 17:22 JesusOurSaviour wrote: No one has.figured it out. T v P is like the hardest matchup for all high-level Korean Terrans. Obviously maps and balance changes have and new BO/strats for Protoss have significantly changed the T v P landscape. Terran players probably need to work harder to find counters to recent protoss improvements. Jiakji's gone for thor/banshee stuff. Others have used hellions to wreck unscrupulous protosses (Some Korean T versus Huk recently?). But it seems the most viable counters so far have either been All-in (thor banshee stuff) or early game abuse (hellions v hapless stalkers). T v P is tough man. I guess it's time for Terrans to feel the pain that Tosses felt for aaaages lol all those jjakji stuff, hellions wrecking huk, etc are bandaid all in or strong timing pushes just like 1-1-1 is... very gimmicky. theres nothing to fig out since macro late game has been the same in tvp in forever, only the gimmicks change. macro terran vs macro toss - toss has advantage of stronger ball and upgrade, faster reinforcement due to warpgate so terran get one chance at max army vs max army to win outright with enough left over to kill the next remaxed army warp in, whereas toss has to win once then camp production, def in toss favour atm esp since terran form of aoe got nerfed hard (emp) | ||
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sitromit
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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Suohhen
United States59 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On December 10 2011 17:29 mierin wrote: Is my Chinese rusty, or does XiGua mean watermelon? I was wondering why I giggled to myself whenever I heard the casters mention his name. Yeah it's watermelon My favorite fruit~ | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On December 10 2011 13:45 Lavi wrote: he's tried with the early upgrades but then loses to insanely strong timing pushes by people like MC and gets called greedy. Mvp even says in his twitter that its incredibly difficult. On December 10 2011 13:45 darkness wrote: No respect for MVP from now. He used to say 1/1/1 was wrong, imba, whatever... If it's just for money/winning, then don't make stupid statements you're going to contradict soon. Man you guys gotta give Terrans some slack. 1-1-1 is not even that strong anymore. 1. Tosses have adapted well 2. maps are bigger thus making all-ins suck, 3. immortal's been buffed a little. Also - protosses all-in all the time as well. Why should you hate on a terran for all-ining? Peeps need to consider that at the highest level (GSL), Tosses are ripping terrans apart with up-zealots / nice tech switches. Once the double forge goes down and the natural expansion is secure.... gl breaking a good Protoss | ||
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xilaratu
United States233 Posts
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On December 10 2011 17:22 Zeroxk wrote: What's Rotterdam doing in Korea? Commentating WC3? Is he going to apply for Code A casting? Yes, he's there for WC3. I highly doubt it he'll be leaving ESL for Gom. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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