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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 16 2011 00:36 GMT
#8361
On May 16 2011 09:33 mav451 wrote:
I'm still eagerly awaiting the VOD for the intro, where they summarize the road to the TSL finals.


Naniwa's

Thorzain's
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
May 16 2011 00:37 GMT
#8362
On May 16 2011 09:33 StarscreamG1 wrote:
I have a stupid question. How does the organization ensures there's no stream watch during the games?

The finals were played at the teamliquid headquarters in New York. All the other games were cast from replays, possibly days after the games were played.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
nymfaw
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway430 Posts
May 16 2011 00:37 GMT
#8363
cy@ naniwa.
Everything will be ok in the end. if it's not ok, its not the end.
SuperNomad
Profile Joined July 2009
United Kingdom70 Posts
May 16 2011 00:37 GMT
#8364
On May 16 2011 09:33 StarscreamG1 wrote:
I have a stupid question. How does the organization ensures there's no stream watch during the games?


Both Thorzain and Naniwa were in New York, playing the games in the TL office so they couldn't have cheated.
Cellardoor
Profile Joined July 2010
United States71 Posts
May 16 2011 00:38 GMT
#8365
I have a stupid question. How does the organization ensures there's no stream watch during the games?


This was a live event.
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 00:41:33
May 16 2011 00:40 GMT
#8366
On May 16 2011 09:33 StarscreamG1 wrote:
I have a stupid question. How does the organization ensures there's no stream watch during the games?


All games expect the finals are played before hand. The commentators cast replays. So all the games already happened when you see them.

The finals are played in New York on the TL headquarters where both finalists fly there to play it live.

edit- didn't noticed you already had several replies. ^^
At least you won't have any doubts by now :D
aka Wardo
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 00:46:09
May 16 2011 00:45 GMT
#8367
On May 16 2011 09:19 Fallingtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 07:49 Chill wrote:

Hot_Bid specifically told us to close anything that could lag.I had IRC open because I liked to see the feedback.


A) was told to close anything that can cause lag.
B) Chill admits he did not follow instructions because he liked to see feedback.


I'd be very mad if I was the loser of this event, no matter who it happened to be. A force outside your control made artificial game conditions out of the blue. Imagine in a chess game if someone started talking in the middle of it and told you to wait to make moves. That is what happened.

It could of even been done intentionally (not saying it was just it could of been) to create issue.

Granted I think TL should of had the casters live at the event as well all in the same place. Casters on machines controlled by TL. So overall it's Chill fault and TL staff fault for allowing the setup to happen how it did. It has now been shown that you cannot trust casters to understand the technology they must be hand-held and watched to ensure they follow the rules.
This is how it is done for other casters in other sports and for a reason the caster is there to cast not to deal with complicated internet technology and rule comprehension.




User was banned for this post.



GTFO Chill is great
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 00:51:28
May 16 2011 00:47 GMT
#8368
On May 16 2011 09:19 Fallingtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 07:49 Chill wrote:

Hot_Bid specifically told us to close anything that could lag.I had IRC open because I liked to see the feedback.


A) was told to close anything that can cause lag.
B) Chill admits he did not follow instructions because he liked to see feedback.


I'd be very mad if I was the loser of this event, no matter who it happened to be. A force outside your control made artificial game conditions out of the blue. Imagine in a chess game if someone started talking in the middle of it and told you to wait to make moves. That is what happened.

It could of even been done intentionally (not saying it was just it could of been) to create issue.

Granted I think TL should of had the casters live at the event as well all in the same place. Casters on machines controlled by TL. So overall it's Chill fault and TL staff fault for allowing the setup to happen how it did. It has now been shown that you cannot trust casters to understand the technology they must be hand-held and watched to ensure they follow the rules.
This is how it is done for other casters in other sports and for a reason the caster is there to cast not to deal with complicated internet technology and rule comprehension.




It did NOT impact the game in any possible way what so ever. As stated 100 times in this thread, but I'll point it out the 101th time for you.

1. It was not at a time where they had to micro a battle.
2. Naniwa took the lead after chill had left the game. If he was tilted when chill was lagging, then you would think he was back to normal after getting a pretty big lead like he did.
3. There are things that happen in online tournaments that are 100 times worse then what happened here. If you get 100% thrown off your game by a small thing like this, you have a problem.
4. This happened to both players. If it did impact the game(im not saying it did), you could argue that the one who let this throw him off his game would be less deserving then the one who didnt.
DarthKhan
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada166 Posts
May 16 2011 00:49 GMT
#8369
Here is the music that played in the highlight reel at the beginning for the finals, really epic music!

http://soundcloud.com/methodic-doubt-music/blue-leader-kopiusfew
HOLY CHECK G.G.
Xercen
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom375 Posts
May 16 2011 00:59 GMT
#8370
On May 16 2011 09:45 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 09:19 Fallingtoss wrote:
On May 16 2011 07:49 Chill wrote:

Hot_Bid specifically told us to close anything that could lag.I had IRC open because I liked to see the feedback.


A) was told to close anything that can cause lag.
B) Chill admits he did not follow instructions because he liked to see feedback.


I'd be very mad if I was the loser of this event, no matter who it happened to be. A force outside your control made artificial game conditions out of the blue. Imagine in a chess game if someone started talking in the middle of it and told you to wait to make moves. That is what happened.

It could of even been done intentionally (not saying it was just it could of been) to create issue.

Granted I think TL should of had the casters live at the event as well all in the same place. Casters on machines controlled by TL. So overall it's Chill fault and TL staff fault for allowing the setup to happen how it did. It has now been shown that you cannot trust casters to understand the technology they must be hand-held and watched to ensure they follow the rules.
This is how it is done for other casters in other sports and for a reason the caster is there to cast not to deal with complicated internet technology and rule comprehension.




User was banned for this post.



GTFO Chill is great


I can't believe somebody on these forums can be so stupid. It was early game when chill was having lag issues and they paused and later on when lag was becoming a problem, thorzain said chill t.t in chat when naniwa was camped below the cliffs of his natural expo sniping off like 8 scvs, making thorzain truly behind in the decider.

After chill left naniwa had the upper hand but thorzain played great.

the tournament was awesome....another idiot like the ones who said mc played bad vs white ra.


hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 16 2011 01:08 GMT
#8371
On May 16 2011 09:36 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 09:33 mav451 wrote:
I'm still eagerly awaiting the VOD for the intro, where they summarize the road to the TSL finals.


Naniwa's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Sqih8IF5o
Thorzain's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmcPaEEDBTM

Great videos! Thanks
Jeffsekai
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada12 Posts
May 16 2011 01:09 GMT
#8372
That was one of the most intense games I have even seen! I'm really looking forward to the next TSL.
Everyone fights, no one quits. If you don't fight I'll kill you myself.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
May 16 2011 01:09 GMT
#8373
I just want to say thanks to the TL staff for running this event and of course the players for playing. The finals were quite simply one of the best series I've seen of Starcraft 2 and when Thorzain went down to 3-1 I thought it was all but over for our hero Terran and somehow he pulled it back and got the last game. Man that last game was so tense and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. I was cheering for Thorzain the whole way through and glad he won, Naniwa played well too but got to support my fellow Terrans! :p
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
May 16 2011 01:17 GMT
#8374
TSL finals are what the GSL finals want to be when they grow up.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
May 16 2011 01:18 GMT
#8375
Hands down one of the best series I have seen.

Thanks to TL for putting on the tournament. I looked forward to the new set of matches every weekend... I'm glad the finals did not disappoint in the slightest.

I'm already looking forward to TSL4! :D Can't wait!
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
May 16 2011 01:19 GMT
#8376
how much does 1st and 2nd place get?
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 01:25:40
May 16 2011 01:23 GMT
#8377
15k 7k if i remember correctly

EDIT: Indeed it is. In the future a good google search or liquipedia search should answer your question.
What does it matter how I loose it?
Fezz
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia62 Posts
May 16 2011 01:25 GMT
#8378
Seriously the narrative that forms from the style/format of tournament is un-matched so far in SC2. Well done to everyone involved, you guys know your shit and got it together.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
May 16 2011 01:27 GMT
#8379
On May 16 2011 09:49 DarthKhan wrote:
Here is the music that played in the highlight reel at the beginning for the finals, really epic music!

http://soundcloud.com/methodic-doubt-music/blue-leader-kopiusfew



Thanks! Awesome song
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
May 16 2011 01:28 GMT
#8380
On May 16 2011 09:14 socommaster123 wrote:
I think this is how Nani felt when Chill was lagging... maybe he thought it was a set up. [image loading]



soooo good hahahha
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