[TSL] Grand Finals - Page 420

On May 16 2011 10:28 TooN wrote:



soooo good hahahha

On May 16 2011 10:31 scatmango2 wrote:
How many viewers did the show peak at?

On May 16 2011 10:31 scatmango2 wrote:
How many viewers did the show peak at?

On May 16 2011 10:38 ggrrg wrote:
If I remember correctly, Gom TV was restreaming the TSL. Does anybody know how many people watched it there? Or maybe what the reactions were?

On May 16 2011 08:28 eloist wrote:

It's not IRC, it's the /whois.

On May 16 2011 10:43 Black Octopi wrote:
As much as I don't want to be an ass towards Chill, I have to agree with some of the sentiment here that Chill was in the wrong. If the rule was close everything, you should close everything!

Do I think this tilted the players? Maybe. If you're in the last stretch, with everything riding on the line, in one of the most prestigious tournaments in the world, and your live! knowing probably every damn starcraft fan out there is watching your ever click, every distraction is potentially game changing. It's not a matter of players making game-losing mistake, it's matter of players playing their very best. The fact that it all happened early game is actually worse then if it happed later on, since that's the unforgiving time, that's when every small decisions really matters, and that's when you pick the path you're going to go for in your mid and late game.

Would the game have been different, doesn't really matter at this point. Thorzain won and that's not gonna change. Yeah maybe Naniwa would have retreated, maybe his macro would not have slipped, maybe he could have taken some hidden expo, maybe he would have pulled some nice harass. Well, maybe Thorzain would have beat it anyway, we're not ever gonna know.

However that doesn't mean things didn't go wrong, or that we should pretend nothing happened. This situation never ever has to happen again! It's not just bad for the player, it's bad for the production. It's even more shameful that rules to prevent it were already in place, and it still happened.

On May 16 2011 10:43 Black Octopi wrote:
As much as I don't want to be an ass towards Chill, I have to agree with some of the sentiment here that Chill was in the wrong. If the rule was close everything, you should close everything!

Do I think this tilted the players? Maybe. If you're in the last stretch, with everything riding on the line, in one of the most prestigious tournaments in the world, and your live! knowing probably every damn starcraft fan out there is watching your ever click, every distraction is potentially game changing. It's not a matter of players making game-losing mistake, it's matter of players playing their very best. The fact that it all happened early game is actually worse then if it happed later on, since that's the unforgiving time, that's when every small decisions really matters, and that's when you pick the path you're going to go for in your mid and late game.

Would the game have been different, doesn't really matter at this point. Thorzain won and that's not gonna change. Yeah maybe Naniwa would have retreated, maybe his macro would not have slipped, maybe he could have taken some hidden expo, maybe he would have pulled some nice harass. Well, maybe Thorzain would have beat it anyway, we're not ever gonna know.

However that doesn't mean things didn't go wrong, or that we should pretend nothing happened. This situation never ever has to happen again! It's not just bad for the player, it's bad for the production. It's even more shameful that rules to prevent it were already in place, and it still happened.

On May 16 2011 10:55 TalkSick wrote:
you guys should stop and think for a second. A 10-15 seconds pause during a rather uneventful moment in a game = match-deciding!?

Seriously, just CHILL.

On May 16 2011 10:40 Takkara wrote:


No word on numbers, but it was likely unimpressive due to no Koreans in the finals. Quotes are here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9281253

On May 16 2011 10:46 Takkara wrote:


Dude, he made a mistake. He's apologized profusely. He admits fault. He's not hiding or dodging it in any way. If he had the ability to go back and change it, he likely would. What can he possibly do other than what he has done? Why try to take any of the focus off of one of the greatest SC2 series ever and put it on a small but very unfortunate event amongst a series of epicness?