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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 14 2011 13:34 GMT
#4201
Roflstomp for the win. I for one enjoyed the games, I am one happy zerg.

Nestea is a GOD!
I had a good night of sleep.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
May 14 2011 13:38 GMT
#4202
When you look up Crushing Defeat in Google, Inca's post-match turtle should be the first thing you see.
/commercial
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 14 2011 13:39 GMT
#4203
Bad finals but the games nestea gave us up to the finals alone make the ticket worth it.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
pirates
Profile Joined October 2010
United States701 Posts
May 14 2011 13:41 GMT
#4204
After reading posts in the last few pages of this thread, I am glad I didn't stay up for the finals.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 14 2011 13:43 GMT
#4205
On May 14 2011 22:31 Mobius_1 wrote:
Thanks to GomTV, Inca and NesTea for being considerate and making the games so damn short so that I can get back to studying for my exams.

First GSL series I subscribe to and it ends with a 4-0 roflstomp.

*grumble grumble*


First off, welcome watching pro gaming, its a lot of fun. If you want to see some exciting matches, watch the season 2 finals, Idra vs Jinro and Jinro vs MC(season 3 or 4). They are super exciting and Jinro vs idra has the best fan art created.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
May 14 2011 13:52 GMT
#4206
Worst finals ever :S
to live is to suffer
cellblock
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden206 Posts
May 14 2011 13:56 GMT
#4207
Nestea godmode.. how can he be this good while being a university student?! Genius
DieterEilts
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany283 Posts
May 14 2011 13:58 GMT
#4208
nestea isnt university student afaik, but nada is
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 14:01:57
May 14 2011 13:58 GMT
#4209
On May 14 2011 22:56 cellblock wrote:
Nestea godmode.. how can he be this good

man he's 30 years so he knows how to stay calm how to analyze things right etc

btw @ page 4
On May 13 2011 22:57 HQuality wrote:
4-0 Nestea

yep
No carpal tunnel no skill
La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
May 14 2011 13:59 GMT
#4210
can people stop saying how bad inca is?
he is an amazing player and you will find it hard if ALL your build orders get changed because blizard patches a race messing up all known timings.
pff
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
May 14 2011 14:10 GMT
#4211
I can't believe how bad Inca is.
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 14:11:55
May 14 2011 14:10 GMT
#4212
On May 14 2011 22:59 La1 wrote:
can people stop saying how bad inca is?
he is an amazing player and you will find it hard if ALL your build orders get changed because blizard patches a race messing up all known timings.

man he's just bad
why he is amazing in your opinion? white-ra is amazing.xiaot's micro is amazing. nani is pleasure to watch sometimes (when no 4gating). even San's macro games is really enjoyable. why inca is amazing, because of bunch of allins, cheeses and timing pushes? e
No carpal tunnel no skill
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 14:15:53
May 14 2011 14:12 GMT
#4213
On May 14 2011 21:58 MuazizTremere wrote:
Show nested quote +

yes, so you got to see 4 super high level examples on how to read and beat what the protoss did. thats learning. if the games are close its much harder to draw out a main lesson from the games


High example lessons on how cannonless 3-gate expand builds are bad against zerg nowadays?

Basically three of the games went like this: Inca tries to do a variation of 3-gate expand without cannons. Nestea makes 10 roaches and 50 zerglings and a-moves to victory.

Wow that's some AMAZING lesson there man. Who on earth would have thought that ling/roach rolls you without a million forcefields and like six cannons. If anything Protoss pro's should by now have realized that they can neither forge-expand nor 3-gate expand vs zerg anymore.

Then game 4 Inca actually forge-expands. Nestea makes too many zerglings but drones up from 2 hatches while taking a third anyway. By the time Warpgate tech is done Nestea is 15 drones, a base and 20 supply ahead. Inca shows yet again that you can't make DT's vs Zerg because without forcefield abuse Ling/roach completely dominates gateway units.

Gee... we didn't know that yet either.

Inca played 4 terrible games, doing weak variations of strategies that Zergs know exactly how to disassemble and the one game where he didn't get way behind in the first few minutes, he borks up by getting the wrong tech and horrible unit control.

Now, tell me... how on EARTH were that "good lessons"?


Game 1 was the traditional 30 drone roachling "allin" thing that has been around for about 6 months that people on the forums are apparently now shitting themselves over as of this week. Game 1 was also a 2 gate expand with extremely bad sim city and no cannon, on the absolute best map for that bust (holy hell was that ever amateur).

The next 2 games not only weren't 3gate expands but 3gate DT expands, where DT's did a metric NOTHING every game, but Nestea never did the goddamn build you're so upset about. The fact that you don't notice the over 5-minute disparity between these two zerg builds is really something you should think about next time you think you should talk about balance.

He went into the games with a plan on doing a strong midgame centric play that revolves around mass attack upgraded lings and is backed up by speed upgraded roaches (starting +1 zergling melee before lair), which is designed to be good against 2 base allin timings and especially at denying protoss 3rd base, but, as we saw, can be used aggressively when your opponent enters the midgame severely behind due to having an awful opening build.

Game 4 I wasn't paying too much attention to the intricacies of their builds but there isn't much to say either. Inca starts the game at a considerable build order advantage, but squanders it by going dt's yet again and getting repelled as easily as he did in every game before that. From there it was NesTea, who is obviously too good to let his opponents come back after taking risks that do absolutely nothing, toying with his food.

It's absolutely mindboggling how the forum dwellers have taken this roachling allin (which I remind you we saw ONCE in this series) as something new and broken. I'm a grandmaster zerg on EU, and I've been using the build for months every now and then, and every goddamn protoss I have ever played is familiar with it and knows exactly how to stop it. You defend it by having a proper simcity below your ramp, by having your army in a good position before the lings swarm in, and controlling your units and forcefields properly. If you want to be absolutely safe, build a single cannon. So yeah the answer is actually controlling your units, such is the nature of this game.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Geegeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada226 Posts
May 14 2011 14:13 GMT
#4214
Free win for Nestea!
SeraKuDA
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada343 Posts
May 14 2011 14:13 GMT
#4215
4-0. There's a shock.
Lazy_89
Profile Joined April 2011
United States87 Posts
May 14 2011 14:26 GMT
#4216
Inca got destroyed in the finals I knew Nestea would win but I didn't think it would be 4:0. I figured he would learn something from MC. He just looked lost having no idea what to do against Nestea.
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
May 14 2011 14:29 GMT
#4217
I gotta say that I was extremely dissapointed with the last game of the series. Inca loses his entire army to +2 lings and sees the muta switch but even so he does not make arcons. He was on dt tech and could easily have done archon / stalker to stabilize vs mutas and then counter with some zealots in the mix. Zealot/archon/stalker is EXTREMELY strong vs mutaling after the patch. I can't believe one of the best players int he world could not think of making atleast 2 archons with his units. Instead he spends a fortune getting colossus vs a mutaling strategy.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 14 2011 14:33 GMT
#4218
Yes! I am so glad NesTea won. Inca was so undeserving of getting that far... it's a shame it wasn't a Nada vs Nestea finals or somehow a NesTea vs sC. That would have been amazing.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 14 2011 14:35 GMT
#4219
Wow, didn't think NesTea would win 4-0 :p would have imagined inca would win at least one game with something abusive lol
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
May 14 2011 14:38 GMT
#4220
On May 14 2011 20:21 branflakes14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 19:49 Ezekyle wrote:
On May 14 2011 17:21 Barca wrote:
-_________________________________________-

MC wins with all-ins using force fields and TL explodes with "imba!"

Nestea wins with all-ins using roach/ling and TL explodes with "omg i <3 Nestea"



Don't get me wrong, Nestea > InCa for sure. Just too much bias going around.


Recommended games polls:
MC win #1 vs July: 42% recommended
Nestea win #1 vs Inca 1: 18% recommended

MC win #2 vs July: 36% recommended
Nestea win #2 vs Inca 1: 10% recommended

MC win #3 vs July: 43% recommended
Nestea win #3 vs Inca 1: 13% recommended

MC win #4 vs July: 36% recommended
Nestea win #4 vs Inca 1: 15% recommended

Yep, TL sure loved Nestea's games a hell of a lot more. Damn those biased Zerg players.


If anything that just makes it look like Z can dominate P a lot harder than P can dominate Z.


Man I hope that's a joke, because no, no it really doesn't. It shows that Nestea can dominate Inca a lot harder than MC can dominate July, and that's all.
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