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							Sermokala
							
							
						 
						
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							mikyaJ
							
							
						 
						
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					On May 12 2011 11:24 Dimagus wrote: The same way we write semester long 15 page essays requiring so many references. O.o How is he going to reference the game without seeing it? Make it up?  | ||
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					On May 12 2011 11:24 FinestHour wrote: is it still down for anyone else It's still down. Wait OMG I got an add... edit: nm no stream still. Adds are working though...  | ||
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					On May 12 2011 11:23 1Eris1 wrote: It probably does, but it's nearly impossible to obtain a 200/200 carrier/colossi army. Similar to a 200/200 tank/viking army or 200/200 broodlord/corrupter army The HT route is more viable, since then you make use of your gateways still and just need a star gate switch, which isn't too difficult. The main point though is that I'm skeptical that carriers are really that great vs. vikings. Cost effective, maybe, but after controlling for micro and build time? Not sure. I might experiment with it a bit though.  | ||
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					On May 12 2011 11:25 mikyaJ wrote: O.o How is he going to reference the game without seeing it? Make it up? Thats how I did college essays :D  | ||
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					On May 12 2011 11:21 Azarkon wrote: I've never seen carriers used effectively against mech. Yes it's possible, no I haven't seen it done. Theoretically speaking, if carriers counter vikings, then carrier colossi (or carrier HT) should ripe apart all Terran armies (since then the only tool Terran would have vs. carriers are marines) but I've never seen it work. Carriers don't really 'counter' vikings, they kill more vikings than their cost, but they build a hell of a lot slower. One carrier can take down 3 vikings for example, especially with upgrades, but a reactored starport will pump them so much faster. You don't see it often because marines destroy interceptors, carriers take ages to build and are expensive (combination meaning that you're out 350/250 for a ridiculously long time before you get the damn unit), and very rarely do terrans go for a 200/200 mech ball where protoss recognizes it early enough to get carriers out. I've seen White-Ra demolish some terran mech players with it on his stream. Carriers are actually extremely powerful units, the problem is that their build time is absurdly long, they're expensive, they're very hard to tech too while staying alive, and players don't really do large mech builds most of the time. For the record though, a high templar/carrier/archon combination is actually the strongest unit composition against terran, regardless of what terran does, but it's so incredibly hard to survive to that point without colossi.  | ||
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					edit: Carriers? Every sane Protoss might not build a single Carrier, unless he is absolutely sure the terran is not able to build up a significant amount of marines, as those ROFLSTOMP any amount of carriers. Well microed Vikings can be a problem too, but there is quite no reason to build vikings as long as the terran has some Barracks  | ||
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					On May 12 2011 11:23 oniman999 wrote: Just a thought I had, but maybe Artosis intentionally played poorly in his game against Vibe. Artosis could have recognized that he had very little or no chance at the NASL playoffs, and decided to literally "take one for the team" to increase Vibe's chance. I don't know, he hasn't played very well in any NASL match, but against Vibe he seemed to play especially poorly (by pro standards). I think he played even more poorly against Fenix and Rainbow.  | ||
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					On May 12 2011 11:25 Geolich wrote: Im watching both. EG Masters has been up the whole time. They both crashed at the exact same time for me, and EGMC is still down. It's a JTV issue that perhaps affects different regions in various ways  | ||
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					edit: Oh nvm then lol. I guess it is JTV.  | ||
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					THIS ISN'T COLLEGE. This is starcraft. This is serious. This sucks =/  | ||
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					On May 12 2011 11:25 kirbynator wrote: now thats an upset if grubby beats TLO Is it? he beat him the last time they played at Lan  | ||
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					On May 12 2011 11:23 travis wrote: Whaaat? Artosis is too top masters, dunno what ur smoking. You must have improved for you to now be better than him. Eh, not really. His US account rank is pretty modest... something in the range of 950 Masters with 45% win rate. There are definitely plenty of casual Masters players who are just flat out better. This is disregarding tournament experience.  | ||
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					On May 12 2011 11:17 Sight- wrote: Idra's analysis is so much worse with no zerg. I still like him ofc, but it's interesting edit: is anyone else tired of this fucking olive garden ad? The dad in the ad is the biggest tool ever. "YEH" "I call them my starting five. BOOM!" Seriously, dad? "Pass these down to your brothers and make sure they get some, okay?" Are your children idiots?  | ||
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