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bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
May 02 2011 02:01 GMT
#281
On May 02 2011 11:00 Mailing wrote:
Why don't protoss build two cannons when they see drop?

I know 300 minerals per base hurts a little, but 2 cannons can kill an overlord before the even reach the probes, and if any banes drop they get killed really quickly.

zerg would then start sending in a empty overlord to get hit first
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
May 02 2011 02:02 GMT
#282
4 gate GO! I think. I hope.. now i want to delete this cause i'll get made fun of if he doesn't
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Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
May 02 2011 02:02 GMT
#283
On May 02 2011 10:59 Juanald wrote:
Can Paintuser Still Win This Season Or Is He Out?? Great Showing By Idra Glad Blizz Added Overlord Drops In Patch This Really Seems To Have Balanced Out This Matchup. Hwaiting!


The top 2 from each group advance to playoffs straight away for a total of 10/16 playoff spots.

The top 11-30th players in the league get divided up into 4 man brackets and play for 5 more playoff spots.

The final spot is filled by a gigantic open qualifier.

He might not win his group at this rate, but he still has a chance to make top 30, and failing that, he could still get to playoffs through the open qualifier.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
May 02 2011 02:02 GMT
#284
BTW smooth commentary and video, crisp sound, much improved experience as time goes by
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
May 02 2011 02:02 GMT
#285
On May 02 2011 10:59 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:58 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:55 Azarkon wrote:
To beat this style from Zerg you really have to stretch yourself to the limits as Protoss. It's a very taxing style to play against because the Zerg just has to click and drop, whereas Protoss has to be constantly scanning his mini map and to have his probes hotkeyed or be very fast at switching to his nexuses.

One mistake can put you way behind in terms of economy.


O u mean like blue flame helion drops? Lol, same situation buddy, it's nothing new that protoss players suddenly have to face

Blue flame drops are x10 easier to handle than multi prong baneling drops. Cannons alone don't stop it, you still have to pull probes.


?

You're sure they aren't 9x easier to handle?

IMO they are equally annoying and you must be equally fastidious to catch them in time. They can deal just as much damage as 4 blings, or more.
Juanald
Profile Joined February 2011
United States354 Posts
May 02 2011 02:02 GMT
#286
On May 02 2011 11:01 Shaetan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:59 Juanald wrote:
Glad Blizz Added Overlord Drops In Patch


What? They've been around for a long time.


Realy? Why Didnt We See Them Before? I Cant Find The New Patch Notes Thread To Check What The Zerg Buf Was.
"hey it could happen!" ~ angels n the outfield
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 02 2011 02:03 GMT
#287
Failed cannon rush attempt into Forge FE :p
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 02 2011 02:03 GMT
#288
On May 02 2011 10:59 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Thank god Idra read this http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html

I would refer you here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=206769&currentpage=184#3664
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
May 02 2011 02:03 GMT
#289
failed cannon rush
Mataru
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway356 Posts
May 02 2011 02:04 GMT
#290
On May 02 2011 11:02 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 11:01 Shaetan wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:59 Juanald wrote:
Glad Blizz Added Overlord Drops In Patch


What? They've been around for a long time.


Realy? Why Didnt We See Them Before? I Cant Find The New Patch Notes Thread To Check What The Zerg Buf Was.


I really hope you are trolling.
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zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
May 02 2011 02:04 GMT
#291
wow idra super fast third
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 02 2011 02:04 GMT
#292
On May 02 2011 11:02 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 11:01 Shaetan wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:59 Juanald wrote:
Glad Blizz Added Overlord Drops In Patch


What? They've been around for a long time.


Realy? Why Didnt We See Them Before? I Cant Find The New Patch Notes Thread To Check What The Zerg Buf Was.

Why Do You Put A Capital Letter At The Start Of Each Word?

Overlord drops have been around for a very long time; the zerg buff proposed on the PTR is the spore crawler root time being reduced?
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
May 02 2011 02:04 GMT
#293
I gotta say, IdrA's ZvP has been looking pretty good as of late
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 02 2011 02:05 GMT
#294
On May 02 2011 11:00 sjschmidt93 wrote:
It's kind of a "cross your fingers and hope he isn't looking at his minimap" style, but it clearly works well.

Ha, wow. Way to dumb it down. If you drop banelings at two expos whilst engaging his main army, IT IS NOT EASY to defend against it. There is so much more to this game than just defending against the drops, the drops can do no damage and still give the Zerg an advantage, it gives him the room to expand at will. It is tough, you need to know your timings well and what your army is capable of.

HasuObs may have made it look easy but just look at the way Mana played, even at these levels it is still easy to get raped by baneling play.
heaven-
Profile Joined February 2010
United States361 Posts
May 02 2011 02:05 GMT
#295
Im a lil confused about the map, Didnt this map have rocks on the third????

Either this map somehow doesnt have them, or idra took those rocks down super quick.

halp?
The road to success is dotted with many tempting parking places.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 02:06:49
May 02 2011 02:05 GMT
#296
On May 02 2011 11:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:59 Dommk wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:58 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:55 Azarkon wrote:
To beat this style from Zerg you really have to stretch yourself to the limits as Protoss. It's a very taxing style to play against because the Zerg just has to click and drop, whereas Protoss has to be constantly scanning his mini map and to have his probes hotkeyed or be very fast at switching to his nexuses.

One mistake can put you way behind in terms of economy.


O u mean like blue flame helion drops? Lol, same situation buddy, it's nothing new that protoss players suddenly have to face

Blue flame drops are x10 easier to handle than multi prong baneling drops. Cannons alone don't stop it, you still have to pull probes.


?

You're sure they aren't 9x easier to handle?

IMO they are equally annoying and you must be equally fastidious to catch them in time. They can deal just as much damage as 4 blings, or more.


They're both hard to handle, but blue flame drops you see less because most Terrans don't go mech vs. Protoss. And when they do go mech they don't usually build medivacs, which after all are useless for a mech army except for transporting things around. By contrast with Zerg, going the ling baneling style the drops come with the strategy. You don't have to add anything extra.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
May 02 2011 02:06 GMT
#297
On May 02 2011 11:05 heaven- wrote:
Im a lil confused about the map, Didnt this map have rocks on the third????

Either this map somehow doesnt have them, or idra took those rocks down super quick.

halp?


I believe this is the GSL version, not the ladder version.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 02 2011 02:06 GMT
#298
On May 02 2011 11:05 heaven- wrote:
Im a lil confused about the map, Didnt this map have rocks on the third????

Either this map somehow doesnt have them, or idra took those rocks down super quick.

halp?


I think they're playing the GSL/TSL version of the map now, just like they are with the others. So I don't think there are rocks.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
May 02 2011 02:06 GMT
#299
The ladder version Taldarim Altar LE has rocks on the third.

The GSL version ( i think its Taldarim Altar SE or RE not sure) has no rocks on the third.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 02 2011 02:06 GMT
#300
On May 02 2011 11:05 heaven- wrote:
Im a lil confused about the map, Didnt this map have rocks on the third????

Either this map somehow doesnt have them, or idra took those rocks down super quick.

halp?

They were using a stupidly old version of this map originally that was a bit more Protoss friendly, and had rocks at the third. They were proposing to change the maps but had to have every team manager agree to the change to use the more recent maps.
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
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