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On May 01 2011 15:57 aksfjh wrote:
Gotta love people rallying behind one of the cheesiest players in the sc2 scene so far. I remember the days when zerg would complain night and day about a lack of macro game, yet they jump on the Spanishiwa boat when he starts winning without any sort of macro prowess.
i hope you get banned for trolling. How does he cheese, his mineral only expanding into mass spine crawlers with no attacking units but Queens for the first 50 supply.. People like you ruining TL with bullshit like that...
Sorry if a mod hates my post but yeah..
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On May 01 2011 16:13 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 15:57 aksfjh wrote:
Gotta love people rallying behind one of the cheesiest players in the sc2 scene so far. I remember the days when zerg would complain night and day about a lack of macro game, yet they jump on the Spanishiwa boat when he starts winning without any sort of macro prowess. i hope you get banned for trolling. How does he cheese, his mineral only expanding into mass spine crawlers with no attacking units but Queens for the first 50 supply.. People like you ruining TL with bullshit like that... Sorry if a mod hates my post but yeah..
Game one was pretty clearly a cheesy all-in, but Spanishiwa doesn't do it often. Aksfjh was just pointing out the fairly hypocritical comments of the community: When a protoss or a terran cheeses, it's boring, lame, dumb, and they deserve to be lambasted. When a zerg does it, he's a hero.
For the record, I have nothing against cheese, and Spanishiwa's play was impressive.
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On May 01 2011 15:57 aksfjh wrote:
Gotta love people rallying behind one of the cheesiest players in the sc2 scene so far. I remember the days when zerg would complain night and day about a lack of macro game, yet they jump on the Spanishiwa boat when he starts winning without any sort of macro prowess.
looks like this statement was made purely based on game one with no prior knowledge of Spanishiwa's overall style of play
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On May 01 2011 16:11 ScythedBlade wrote:
Spanishiwa is the pure example of "THE" macro zerg. It's why Zerg is pretty overpowered ... it's just that no one knows about it because no one takes it to this extreme.
Of course, the playstyle that he uses makes it extremely suceptable to cheese and extremely aggressive early pressure, but he handles it with a ton of static defenses.
If you play Zerg on a mathematical basis, we already know that they're extremely powerful. It's stuff like forcefield and splash damage that helps even it out.
Gogo Spanishwa for being so pro.
Zerg isn't overpowered in the slightest, but it's not underpowered either, just isn't being played properly. I really wish people would stop using the words "overpowered" or "underpowered" unless Blizzard has asked them directly for their opinion.
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On May 01 2011 15:57 aksfjh wrote:
Gotta love people rallying behind one of the cheesiest players in the sc2 scene so far. I remember the days when zerg would complain night and day about a lack of macro game, yet they jump on the Spanishiwa boat when he starts winning without any sort of macro prowess.
User was temp banned for this post.
You sure 80 drones wasn't any sort of macro, Bro?
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On May 01 2011 14:39 Spanishiwa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 13:35 Mojar wrote:+ Show Spoiler +tlo handled that game 1 cheese so poorly, the cheese was terrible and incredibly easy to hold. spanishiwa still is unimpressive imo. Less scv pulling and a earlier bunker would of stopped it cold. Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 14:21 koolaid1990 wrote:
God TLO got so bad. Please just go back to random. Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 14:30 frucisky wrote:
TLO has failed to improve I think. His macro's pretty bad all game long. His armies just so small.. Why do you guys have to be so BM? Just enjoy the games for what they are. Everyone can have a bad day, and it's not like he was playing cross server or had a TL event coming up in a few minutes. Point is you don't know either of our situations, so don't be so quick to judge.
I guess my post is somewhat BM, but in no way am i saying TLO is a bad player (TLO is actually one of my favorite players) i just think he could of reacted better to the situation in game 1. Game 2 and 3 are pretty good showcases of your ability though, definitely improving over past games that Ive watched.
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On May 01 2011 16:11 ScythedBlade wrote:
Spanishiwa is the pure example of "THE" macro zerg. It's why Zerg is pretty overpowered ... it's just that no one knows about it because no one takes it to this extreme.
Of course, the playstyle that he uses makes it extremely suceptable to cheese and extremely aggressive early pressure, but he handles it with a ton of static defenses.
If you play Zerg on a mathematical basis, we already know that they're extremely powerful. It's stuff like forcefield and splash damage that helps even it out.
Gogo Spanishwa for being so pro.
The build he created is now a staple build and many zergs on the ladder (including myself) now use/love it. It is another way to play zerg, although calling it op is a bit exaggerated, as he gives up map control and scouting early game, which is one of zergs strengths, and wastes money on an above average amount of static defences. Im just glad to see a player being innovative and taking the game to the next level.
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On May 01 2011 16:11 ScythedBlade wrote:
Spanishiwa is the pure example of "THE" macro zerg. It's why Zerg is pretty overpowered ... it's just that no one knows about it because no one takes it to this extreme.
Of course, the playstyle that he uses makes it extremely suceptable to cheese and extremely aggressive early pressure, but he handles it with a ton of static defenses.
If you play Zerg on a mathematical basis, we already know that they're extremely powerful. It's stuff like forcefield and splash damage that helps even it out.
Gogo Spanishwa for being so pro.
rofl u say this, but over time, terrans will find out how to deal with it. Just like how zergs learned how to deal with 2 rax. Or Zergs deal with 3 sentry expands. Or when protoss thought mass mutas was op. Why do you think the hundreds of brains in korea europe and US dont play like spanishwa? u think the many paid coaches in korea didnt know about this "new" type of build? Do you think spanishwa is just a genius? nope. Its because this stuff doesnt work at the highest level, TLO is at a pretty high level but hes just playing horrific
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Is this really TLO playing? I mean I know Spanishiwa is really good but I didn't know he was THAT good. o_O
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Spanishiwa Definitely needs to start playing in major tournaments.
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geez spanishiwa playing goood!
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On May 01 2011 17:26 Shackadeemus wrote:
Spanishiwa Definitely needs to start playing in major tournaments.
The sad part is he doesn't really consider himself a progamer... XD I've heard him say it on his stream. Such a shame... He should truly consider it.
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Actually Spanishiwa has a very good micro, wonder how this playstyle works with 100 APM, will definitely try :-D. Great games, refreshing
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Spanishiwa rlly lets me think about switching my gamestyle
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We're still only at the 3rd game? Any info on when the rest will be up?
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Terran should get sensor towers against these burrowed Infestor shenanigans
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On May 01 2011 18:07 tyCe wrote:
Terran should get sensor towers against these burrowed Infestor shenanigans
i dont think sensor tower can see burrowed or invisible untis, do they ?
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On May 01 2011 18:07 tyCe wrote:
Terran should get sensor towers against these burrowed Infestor shenanigans
Hm..
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Seems like T will have to go for detection blindly :-).
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On May 01 2011 18:09 BlACKTrA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 18:07 tyCe wrote:
Terran should get sensor towers against these burrowed Infestor shenanigans i dont think sensor tower can see burrowed oder invisible untis, do they ?
They don't see burrowed or invisible units, so sensor tower wouldn't do anything.
Also, when's game 4 gonna be up? I hope soon. :D
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