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Spanishiwa vs TLO Bo7 SHOWMATCH - Page 8

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DocSeverinsen
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany86 Posts
May 01 2011 23:04 GMT
#141
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Noooooo TLOOOOO . However, those games were awesome!
No one leaves alive... hero stalker
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 01 2011 23:06 GMT
#142
On May 02 2011 04:38 TheLight wrote:
I wonder when Spanishiwa is going to participate in a tournament? He has a good chance of making the championship bracket via the open bracket in an MLG.


He's played in the last FXOpen IS + Show Spoiler +
Unfortunately his first opponent was sCfOu so he lost 2-0. I've seen the replay of the first game though, and it wasn't a rolfstomp at all. sC went with an abusive early Hellion/marine aggression build and eventually edged the game out purely by better micro.


I'd certainly rank him in top 20 competitive NA players right now. He's now beaten some very highly rated players in money games (all were BO7 series at least), and is actually sitting at quite an impressive prize money sum this month.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 01 2011 23:18 GMT
#143
On May 02 2011 07:23 Zorgaz wrote:
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Damn Spanishiwa playing such awesome and unusual builds and just stomping TLO down 4-0 makes me stunned. He really plays Zerg as it should be played using all the awesome mechanics. Nydus, Mass Quenn, Infestors&Ultras. And even though he is a greedy greedy guy often he seems to get away with it most of the time.

Would be interested to see how he fares against Korean T aggression


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He was crushed 2-0 by sCfOu in the most recent FXOpen
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
May 01 2011 23:20 GMT
#144
To Oldern,

The thing is spanishiwa really delays the lair. So if you could hide a marauder push behind some hellion harass, then you could have some luck, I would think... Lair takes 80 seconds to complete. Spire takes 100 seconds to make and Mutas take 33 seconds to hatch. That is a 3 and half minute window between the time the zerg scouts your marauders to the time you can make a push...and as a protoss player I know terran can do a fast marauder push!
uberism
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada271 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 23:39:23
May 01 2011 23:38 GMT
#145
Yea, Spanishiwa lost in the FXOpen, but in the loser brackets he had some good games against Mkengyn. I found some replays of the games here: http://www.sc-replay.com/player/10805-xSixMkengyn.html

I just watched the first 4, but very unique strategies by Spanishiwa!
Sixes
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1123 Posts
May 01 2011 23:46 GMT
#146
On May 02 2011 08:20 Fungal Growth wrote:
To Oldern,

The thing is spanishiwa really delays the lair. So if you could hide a marauder push behind some hellion harass, then you could have some luck, I would think... Lair takes 80 seconds to complete. Spire takes 100 seconds to make and Mutas take 33 seconds to hatch. That is a 3 and half minute window between the time the zerg scouts your marauders to the time you can make a push...and as a protoss player I know terran can do a fast marauder push!


Remember that Spanishiwa does mix up his strategies and tends to have very good scouting.

Generally 1 base Terran showing no sign of expanding is going to set off alarms (especially if they seem to be hiding tech), the most likely reaction is in fact queens (because it could be banshee). Queens do quite decently at tanking marauders or hellions as both rely on their bonus damage vs light/armored. Additionally spine crawlers, even though they do die pretty fast to marauders, also kill them very fast.

Not saying it couldn't work but I wouldn't write it off as a sure loss.
Lumin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 23:52:19
May 01 2011 23:49 GMT
#147
On May 02 2011 00:20 Bobster wrote:
Great games so far.

A Husky comment during he first game gave me the idea to make a Bo7 showmatch and the prize pool distribution is governed by how many games each player wins. I mean, they're all getting played anyway, would be a cool way to make every game count. Like, with this $500 prizepool, make each game worth $70. bam, payout perfectly distributed to the player's performance.


Do you know how to do math? Please tell me how many games worth 70$ would fit into a 500$ prize pool. "Perfectly distributed" huh.

But otherwise, great matches! Very impressed with Spanishiwa's play. Not too impressed with TLO as normal.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 00:15:08
May 02 2011 00:04 GMT
#148
On May 02 2011 08:49 Lumin wrote:
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On May 02 2011 00:20 Bobster wrote:
Great games so far.

A Husky comment during he first game gave me the idea to make a Bo7 showmatch and the prize pool distribution is governed by how many games each player wins. I mean, they're all getting played anyway, would be a cool way to make every game count. Like, with this $500 prizepool, make each game worth $70. bam, payout perfectly distributed to the player's performance.


Do you know how to do math? Please tell me how many games worth 70$ would fit into a 500$ prize pool. "Perfectly distributed" huh.
I apparently overestimated people's ability to mentally adjust ~$500 into $490, $420, $700 etc.

Sorry that you didn't get my point.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
May 02 2011 00:14 GMT
#149
On May 01 2011 14:39 Spanishiwa wrote:
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On May 01 2011 13:35 Mojar wrote:
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tlo handled that game 1 cheese so poorly, the cheese was terrible and incredibly easy to hold. spanishiwa still is unimpressive imo. Less scv pulling and a earlier bunker would of stopped it cold.


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On May 01 2011 14:21 koolaid1990 wrote:
God TLO got so bad. Please just go back to random.


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On May 01 2011 14:30 frucisky wrote:
TLO has failed to improve I think. His macro's pretty bad all game long. His armies just so small..


Why do you guys have to be so BM? Just enjoy the games for what they are. Everyone can have a bad day, and it's not like he was playing cross server or had a TL event coming up in a few minutes. Point is you don't know either of our situations, so don't be so quick to judge.


Thank you Spanishiwa, gl hf!
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Wherewolf
Profile Joined December 2010
United States353 Posts
May 02 2011 00:31 GMT
#150
Spanishiwa's style just looks so fun, makes me consider switching from Toss to Zerg D:

Great games.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
May 02 2011 00:38 GMT
#151
GREAT GAMES!!

my mouth its still open. epic games! i love Spanishiwa's style so much!

i read his guide and now this videos... i cant believe it, its the funnier and powerful zerg style that i watch in the last weeks, congrats to both players!
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
May 02 2011 01:41 GMT
#152
How does one stop that attack in g6 as Zerg?
<3 DongRaeGu <3
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
May 02 2011 01:43 GMT
#153
Wow, I play Terran and TLO is one of my favorite players...but I just can't bring myself to root against Spanishiwa. He is so entertaining. He is fast becoming one of my favorite players. Would love to see him do well in a large tournament. I hope he can qualify for IPL Season 2
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
Sirverik
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belarus26 Posts
May 02 2011 03:57 GMT
#154
On May 02 2011 08:49 Lumin wrote:

Do you know how to do math? Please tell me how many games worth 70$ would fit into a 500$ prize pool.



7 games.
Sirverik
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belarus26 Posts
May 02 2011 04:04 GMT
#155
On May 02 2011 10:41 frucisky wrote:
How does one stop that attack in g6 as Zerg?



Idra almost stopped it with banelings. It is really tough to deal with.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 04:09:23
May 02 2011 04:08 GMT
#156
On May 02 2011 12:57 Sirverik wrote:
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On May 02 2011 08:49 Lumin wrote:

Do you know how to do math? Please tell me how many games worth 70$ would fit into a 500$ prize pool.



7 games.


Still doesn't make sense in any outcome less than all 7 games. Winning 4-0 only yields $280 to winner and $0 to loser, for example.

Better yet would be to take the percentage of games won, multiply that by the prize pool for the winner, then do the same for the loser. 4-0 yields $500 to winner, $0 to loser. 4-3 yields $286 for winner and $214 to loser.

Only in this manner are games won commensurate to prize money earned, while still accurately summed from the total starting prize pool.

edit:

nevermind. Wasn't aware all 7 games were played regardless of out-of-7 status.
eatpraylove
Profile Joined October 2010
United States53 Posts
May 02 2011 05:12 GMT
#157
Win or lose, I'm loving Spanishiwa's play and all the variety he's showing. He's making use of units and strategies that I just haven't seen that much from the pros. Upgrades! His and Thorzain's matches really demonstrate the power of upgrades. I'm inspired to be less terrible at them.
Flummie
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands417 Posts
May 02 2011 05:28 GMT
#158
/switched to zerg from protoss

gg guys and spanishiwa is inspirational
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Sirverik
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belarus26 Posts
May 02 2011 05:31 GMT
#159
On May 02 2011 08:46 Sixes wrote:
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On May 02 2011 08:20 Fungal Growth wrote:
To Oldern,

The thing is spanishiwa really delays the lair. So if you could hide a marauder push behind some hellion harass, then you could have some luck, I would think... Lair takes 80 seconds to complete. Spire takes 100 seconds to make and Mutas take 33 seconds to hatch. That is a 3 and half minute window between the time the zerg scouts your marauders to the time you can make a push...and as a protoss player I know terran can do a fast marauder push!


Remember that Spanishiwa does mix up his strategies and tends to have very good scouting.

Generally 1 base Terran showing no sign of expanding is going to set off alarms (especially if they seem to be hiding tech), the most likely reaction is in fact queens (because it could be banshee). Queens do quite decently at tanking marauders or hellions as both rely on their bonus damage vs light/armored. Additionally spine crawlers, even though they do die pretty fast to marauders, also kill them very fast.

Not saying it couldn't work but I wouldn't write it off as a sure loss.


How about a big mass nitro pack reaper timing push? Reapers do remarkably well against both queens and spines, they kill drones fast and can kite zerglings without metabolic boost.

Just a though.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
May 02 2011 05:46 GMT
#160
Damn, I'm sitting at work!
I will look at this in the evening! Will be great! Two of the most innovative players getting down together!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
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