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Spanishiwa vs TLO Bo7 SHOWMATCH - Page 9

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Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
May 02 2011 06:16 GMT
#161
Anyone else thinks the first 4 game look completely 1 sided ?
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
SweetAs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
New Zealand290 Posts
May 02 2011 06:27 GMT
#162
Rofl stomped
CJ.sAviOr : oGsjookTo : mTwDIMAGA
PoisedYeTi
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia167 Posts
May 02 2011 07:41 GMT
#163
TLO got stomped rofl

Great game though
"Just read game like book" -WhiteRa
Kokosaft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany172 Posts
May 02 2011 11:42 GMT
#164
Amazing series, especially the first four games, really worth watching! Thanks a lot
evanthebouncy
Profile Joined November 2004
China491 Posts
May 02 2011 12:23 GMT
#165
I'm just so happy hahaha wow
BOINK BOINK! Recursively defined
hazeee
Profile Joined April 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 12:37:11
May 02 2011 12:36 GMT
#166
The last 3 games were played the next day @7am for Spanishiwa + Show Spoiler +
which might have had something to do with his poor scouting which in turn allowed TLO to do the 6rax rush effectivily in g6. I have a strong feeling Spanishiwas scouting and decision making is way better then what we saw in g5 and g6 under normal circumstances. And for those of you wondering what he could have done if he did scout it? Well the same thing he does vs 4g. Get 5-6 spines and a bunch of queens to transfuse. GL breaking that defense.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 02 2011 13:14 GMT
#167
On May 02 2011 15:16 Aterons_toss wrote:
Anyone else thinks the first 4 game look completely 1 sided ?


Yup.

I think people focus too much on the "build" and strategy and Spanishiwa doesn't get enough credit for improving really fast and being just a good overall player. He already looks a lot better than he did in his first competitive series vs Minigun.

I mean regardless of your initial build, when the game gets into 15-20th minute, just being smart and having a clever unit composition won't win you games against pros. His harassment and micro seem to be getting better every game/series I see him play.
Kwaa
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden91 Posts
May 02 2011 13:35 GMT
#168
In a Bo7 he should have won after game 4, right?
MACRO HARD!
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 13:46:05
May 02 2011 13:45 GMT
#169
On May 02 2011 22:35 Kwaa wrote:
In a Bo7 he should have won after game 4, right?

Yes. And Spanishiwa was declared the winner after game 4. However, it was agreed upon beforehand to play out all 7 matches regardless of results, sot hey did just that.
Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
May 02 2011 14:33 GMT
#170
I would like to hear TLOs opinion on the games...
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 15:10:27
May 02 2011 15:07 GMT
#171
Spanishiwa's build is relatively weak to very early pressure as seen in the FXOpen when scfOu owned him with bunker rushes. Maybe he didn't play well there. I'd like to see how he adjusts in the next tournament he attends, and look forward to other Zergs adapting the style. I know Idra has been experimenting with a variant of Spanishiwa's build to good effect in NASL. Darkforce seems to think it's too easily countered, though.
Sentient66
Profile Joined July 2009
United States651 Posts
May 02 2011 15:52 GMT
#172
On May 03 2011 00:07 Azarkon wrote:
Spanishiwa's build is relatively weak to very early pressure as seen in the FXOpen when scfOu owned him with bunker rushes. Maybe he didn't play well there. I'd like to see how he adjusts in the next tournament he attends, and look forward to other Zergs adapting the style. I know Idra has been experimenting with a variant of Spanishiwa's build to good effect in NASL. Darkforce seems to think it's too easily countered, though.


I think Spanishiwa has greatly improved his early game defense tactics and micro since that series. Judging by this series and his series vs. Spades, I'd say Spanishiwa is pretty damn good at holding those super early rushes with just queens, crawlers, and drones.
seNsiX.421
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
May 02 2011 17:30 GMT
#173
WoW, 4th game!!! never expected someone could execute that style (nydus and in-battle transfuse).
Its grack
AntiSleep
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada91 Posts
May 02 2011 20:52 GMT
#174
Think I'm switching to zerg now after watching spanishiwa play -_-"
Looks so intense and fun instead of protoss now
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
May 02 2011 23:34 GMT
#175
Sanishiwa is very creative. Would love to watch him in one of the leagues.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
May 02 2011 23:36 GMT
#176
On May 02 2011 15:16 Aterons_toss wrote:
Anyone else thinks the first 4 game look completely 1 sided ?

Yes, and not only that, the title of being a "creative player" was lost forever by TLO, IMO.

Because we saw that in comparison to a truly creative and innovative player, he looked just a very very conservative player. Two of his wins were early marine pushes, which has been around for ages and which almost any pro can carry out.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 02 2011 23:42 GMT
#177
On May 03 2011 00:07 Azarkon wrote:
Spanishiwa's build is relatively weak to very early pressure as seen in the FXOpen when scfOu owned him with bunker rushes. Maybe he didn't play well there. I'd like to see how he adjusts in the next tournament he attends, and look forward to other Zergs adapting the style. I know Idra has been experimenting with a variant of Spanishiwa's build to good effect in NASL. Darkforce seems to think it's too easily countered, though.

It's easy for something to be made to look weak when you're playing against someone who's way better than you. scfOu is Code-S and 3-0ed his group.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
May 02 2011 23:44 GMT
#178
On May 03 2011 08:36 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 15:16 Aterons_toss wrote:
Anyone else thinks the first 4 game look completely 1 sided ?

Yes, and not only that, the title of being a "creative player" was lost forever by TLO, IMO.

Because we saw that in comparison to a truly creative and innovative player, he looked just a very very conservative player. Two of his wins were early marine pushes, which has been around for ages and which almost any pro can carry out.

That's such a bs. TLO does creative and innovative things since beta. Spanishiwa is around like 1 month or so.
They are both fun to watch and came up with new things.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Glad0s
Profile Joined May 2011
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 23:49:05
May 02 2011 23:48 GMT
#179
I honestly can't wait for Spanishiwa to play in a major tourni against some really high tier players. I still love TLO but I no longer consider him an 'S' class player as he seems to be very shaky in every game I see him. Hopefully he will have a return but alas, Spanishiwa will get a wake up call when he goes up against the better pros.


Hopes to both inventive players improving greatly
EG.Idra Fighting
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 23:51:30
May 02 2011 23:50 GMT
#180
This was jaw droppingly amazing. Holy crap. Insane games making for an insane and completely unexpected (at least for me) series

EDIT: Oh wow, I didn't even know there were more games after game 4
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
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