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Do not spoil unbroadcasted results.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
April 24 2011 00:44 GMT
#201
4 gate from hongun, TLO with a destiny cloud fist build
Don't mind me
bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 00:45:07
April 24 2011 00:44 GMT
#202
On April 24 2011 09:19 Nerdslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:13 bluestuff wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:09 Nerdslayer wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:08 bluestuff wrote:
man watching one of the best zegs in the world losing to a relatively unknown protoss player makes me sad........


Nastea was gready took a quick 3rd base. thats why he lost and lovecd had nice blink macro so stop with the balance crap. If nestea had played safe this woulnt had happend

Funny you say that, when the protoss can forge fast expand and therefore is expected not be punished at all right, but a zerg player trying to capitalize on this "defensive' protoss build is being "greedy".



Wrong but most zergs are greedy and onedimensional look at game 3 today copenhagen game morrow vs MC. MC did the usual build 3 gate into forge expand. standard. Morrow decide to go for fast baneling drops on his main and it worked perfectly. why? becuase it was unexpected.

Like i sayd so many times as soon zergs learn to play creative and stop being so goddam greedy and onedimensional they will have trouble..


+ Show Spoiler +
that worked pretty well, considering he lost the series 3-1 right?
.

This argument that zerg are lazy/greedy/uncreative is absolute bullshit.. Its completely unreasonable to expect zerg to consistently win pvz games with cutesy play, that many times are equivalent to a coin flip for either player. Using nydus/drops would be fine in the matchup if the zerg didn't depend on every single unit in there main army inorder to beat off any agression. As we saw many times in this series and countless others, battles by the zerg were won or lost just barely by the flow of reinforcing units from the base. Investing in drops or nydus, particularly in the mid game,which is what u are implying, are not viable without causing significant damage.. This is amplfied with the fact that a map like xel naga where defending drops is fairly easy with blink stalkers or the like.

I am not saying nestea played perfectly,he obviously made critical mistakes in game 2 and 3, However it is pretty evident that mistakes made from a toss player are negated much quicker, and are much easier to mitigate with the various mechanics they have at there disposal.
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
April 24 2011 00:45 GMT
#203
Why do I get so irritated over un-updated results in OPs? Sigh.

Results, kind people?
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
April 24 2011 00:45 GMT
#204
fail 3h drop
GuMiho <3
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
April 24 2011 00:48 GMT
#205
On April 24 2011 09:45 arQ wrote:
Why do I get so irritated over un-updated results in OPs? Sigh.

Results, kind people?

Dimaga 2-0 Lyn
LoveCD 2-1 Nestea
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
April 24 2011 00:48 GMT
#206
On April 24 2011 09:45 arQ wrote:
Why do I get so irritated over un-updated results in OPs? Sigh.

Results, kind people?


+ Show Spoiler +
Dimaga 2-0 over Lyn
Lovecd 2-1 over Nestea
Hongun up 1-0 over TLO at the moment
Don't mind me
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 24 2011 00:49 GMT
#207
What a hilarious fail by Hongun
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
April 24 2011 00:50 GMT
#208
What's better TLO, a DT or a banshee?
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
April 24 2011 00:50 GMT
#209
dimaga such a boss! <3
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Monoamine
Profile Joined April 2011
United States153 Posts
April 24 2011 00:51 GMT
#210
Watching the probes flee the base was hilarious.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 01:02:37
April 24 2011 01:01 GMT
#211
HongUn with a great strategy...Win macro game! Subsequently fail with two 4gates.

Jesus that was terrible lol
Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
April 24 2011 01:02 GMT
#212
HongUn - first person in gsl history to make a carrier.. lol
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
April 24 2011 01:02 GMT
#213
Hongun is so shit it's untrue. Unbearable play from him.

How on earth do this guys go to Korea and invite Hongun for this tourney.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
April 24 2011 01:02 GMT
#214
TLO moves on and will play against lovecd
Don't mind me
nat
Profile Joined September 2010
216 Posts
April 24 2011 01:07 GMT
#215
Hongun has no fighting spirit. U should fight like on even if 4 gate fails. thats what real pro do. Mentality is just as important as skill
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
April 24 2011 01:15 GMT
#216
GOGO SASE!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 24 2011 01:23 GMT
#217
Sorry about the OP not being updated, updated it fully now.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
April 24 2011 01:27 GMT
#218
great casters imo
hihihi
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
April 24 2011 01:29 GMT
#219
On April 24 2011 09:44 bluestuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:19 Nerdslayer wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:13 bluestuff wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:09 Nerdslayer wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:08 bluestuff wrote:
man watching one of the best zegs in the world losing to a relatively unknown protoss player makes me sad........


Nastea was gready took a quick 3rd base. thats why he lost and lovecd had nice blink macro so stop with the balance crap. If nestea had played safe this woulnt had happend

Funny you say that, when the protoss can forge fast expand and therefore is expected not be punished at all right, but a zerg player trying to capitalize on this "defensive' protoss build is being "greedy".



Wrong but most zergs are greedy and onedimensional look at game 3 today copenhagen game morrow vs MC. MC did the usual build 3 gate into forge expand. standard. Morrow decide to go for fast baneling drops on his main and it worked perfectly. why? becuase it was unexpected.

Like i sayd so many times as soon zergs learn to play creative and stop being so goddam greedy and onedimensional they will have trouble..


+ Show Spoiler +
that worked pretty well, considering he lost the series 3-1 right?
.

This argument that zerg are lazy/greedy/uncreative is absolute bullshit.. Its completely unreasonable to expect zerg to consistently win pvz games with cutesy play, that many times are equivalent to a coin flip for either player. Using nydus/drops would be fine in the matchup if the zerg didn't depend on every single unit in there main army inorder to beat off any agression. As we saw many times in this series and countless others, battles by the zerg were won or lost just barely by the flow of reinforcing units from the base. Investing in drops or nydus, particularly in the mid game,which is what u are implying, are not viable without causing significant damage.. This is amplfied with the fact that a map like xel naga where defending drops is fairly easy with blink stalkers or the like.

I am not saying nestea played perfectly,he obviously made critical mistakes in game 2 and 3, However it is pretty evident that mistakes made from a toss player are negated much quicker, and are much easier to mitigate with the various mechanics they have at there disposal.



its not bullshit 90% of all ZVP game is 15 hatch drone drone drone drone drone roach hydras mutas thats it..

So easy for the protoss to counter that sicne they played against that a million time. Its time for the zerg community to start thinking outside the box.

Like i sayd before its like playing poker and showing you opponent you hands..

I am glad that there is some zerg that have started to think outside the box abit l8tly dimaga,sheth and spanishwa come to mind..

So to sum it up Zerg need to "evolve"
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
April 24 2011 01:32 GMT
#220
SaSe takes game 1 :D gogo Kim!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
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