EPTStarsWar Round of 32, Day 1 - Page 11
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
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bluestuff
Canada893 Posts
On April 24 2011 09:19 Nerdslayer wrote: Wrong but most zergs are greedy and onedimensional look at game 3 today copenhagen game morrow vs MC. MC did the usual build 3 gate into forge expand. standard. Morrow decide to go for fast baneling drops on his main and it worked perfectly. why? becuase it was unexpected. Like i sayd so many times as soon zergs learn to play creative and stop being so goddam greedy and onedimensional they will have trouble.. + Show Spoiler + that worked pretty well, considering he lost the series 3-1 right? This argument that zerg are lazy/greedy/uncreative is absolute bullshit.. Its completely unreasonable to expect zerg to consistently win pvz games with cutesy play, that many times are equivalent to a coin flip for either player. Using nydus/drops would be fine in the matchup if the zerg didn't depend on every single unit in there main army inorder to beat off any agression. As we saw many times in this series and countless others, battles by the zerg were won or lost just barely by the flow of reinforcing units from the base. Investing in drops or nydus, particularly in the mid game,which is what u are implying, are not viable without causing significant damage.. This is amplfied with the fact that a map like xel naga where defending drops is fairly easy with blink stalkers or the like. I am not saying nestea played perfectly,he obviously made critical mistakes in game 2 and 3, However it is pretty evident that mistakes made from a toss player are negated much quicker, and are much easier to mitigate with the various mechanics they have at there disposal. | ||
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arQ
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Results, kind people? | ||
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casualman
United States1198 Posts
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
On April 24 2011 09:45 arQ wrote: Why do I get so irritated over un-updated results in OPs? Sigh. Results, kind people? Dimaga 2-0 Lyn LoveCD 2-1 Nestea | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On April 24 2011 09:45 arQ wrote: Why do I get so irritated over un-updated results in OPs? Sigh. Results, kind people? + Show Spoiler + Dimaga 2-0 over Lyn Lovecd 2-1 over Nestea Hongun up 1-0 over TLO at the moment | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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Dragar
United Kingdom971 Posts
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
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Monoamine
United States153 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Jesus that was terrible lol | ||
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Like a Boss
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
How on earth do this guys go to Korea and invite Hongun for this tourney. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
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nat
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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askTeivospy
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Nerdslayer
Denmark1130 Posts
On April 24 2011 09:44 bluestuff wrote: + Show Spoiler + that worked pretty well, considering he lost the series 3-1 right? This argument that zerg are lazy/greedy/uncreative is absolute bullshit.. Its completely unreasonable to expect zerg to consistently win pvz games with cutesy play, that many times are equivalent to a coin flip for either player. Using nydus/drops would be fine in the matchup if the zerg didn't depend on every single unit in there main army inorder to beat off any agression. As we saw many times in this series and countless others, battles by the zerg were won or lost just barely by the flow of reinforcing units from the base. Investing in drops or nydus, particularly in the mid game,which is what u are implying, are not viable without causing significant damage.. This is amplfied with the fact that a map like xel naga where defending drops is fairly easy with blink stalkers or the like. I am not saying nestea played perfectly,he obviously made critical mistakes in game 2 and 3, However it is pretty evident that mistakes made from a toss player are negated much quicker, and are much easier to mitigate with the various mechanics they have at there disposal. its not bullshit 90% of all ZVP game is 15 hatch drone drone drone drone drone roach hydras mutas thats it.. So easy for the protoss to counter that sicne they played against that a million time. Its time for the zerg community to start thinking outside the box. Like i sayd before its like playing poker and showing you opponent you hands.. I am glad that there is some zerg that have started to think outside the box abit l8tly dimaga,sheth and spanishwa come to mind.. So to sum it up Zerg need to "evolve" | ||
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SmoKim
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