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Do not spoil unbroadcasted results.
rjT.
Profile Joined May 2008
Italy295 Posts
April 24 2011 10:42 GMT
#241
There will be a stream for huk vs morrow? according to gg.net they're gonna face each other in an hour http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/gosubet/94725
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 24 2011 10:50 GMT
#242
how exactly does this tournament work? i watched a bit last night and it said there were 8 chinese qualifiers? were they region based or some kind of point system from other performances?

hadnt heard of any of the chinese players before so im curious where they came from
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 24 2011 11:35 GMT
#243
wow Nestea upset !!!

Nice to see TLO and Dimaga going through!
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 24 2011 11:36 GMT
#244
On April 24 2011 19:50 turdburgler wrote:
how exactly does this tournament work? i watched a bit last night and it said there were 8 chinese qualifiers? were they region based or some kind of point system from other performances?

hadnt heard of any of the chinese players before so im curious where they came from


There was a Chinese tournament to fill 8 qualify spots for just the Chinese to compete in. I think the top 8 from this tournament got a spot or they did it like the TSL.

All the others players got invited.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
April 24 2011 11:43 GMT
#245
On April 24 2011 10:29 Nerdslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:44 bluestuff wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:19 Nerdslayer wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:13 bluestuff wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:09 Nerdslayer wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:08 bluestuff wrote:
man watching one of the best zegs in the world losing to a relatively unknown protoss player makes me sad........


Nastea was gready took a quick 3rd base. thats why he lost and lovecd had nice blink macro so stop with the balance crap. If nestea had played safe this woulnt had happend

Funny you say that, when the protoss can forge fast expand and therefore is expected not be punished at all right, but a zerg player trying to capitalize on this "defensive' protoss build is being "greedy".



Wrong but most zergs are greedy and onedimensional look at game 3 today copenhagen game morrow vs MC. MC did the usual build 3 gate into forge expand. standard. Morrow decide to go for fast baneling drops on his main and it worked perfectly. why? becuase it was unexpected.

Like i sayd so many times as soon zergs learn to play creative and stop being so goddam greedy and onedimensional they will have trouble..


+ Show Spoiler +
that worked pretty well, considering he lost the series 3-1 right?
.

This argument that zerg are lazy/greedy/uncreative is absolute bullshit.. Its completely unreasonable to expect zerg to consistently win pvz games with cutesy play, that many times are equivalent to a coin flip for either player. Using nydus/drops would be fine in the matchup if the zerg didn't depend on every single unit in there main army inorder to beat off any agression. As we saw many times in this series and countless others, battles by the zerg were won or lost just barely by the flow of reinforcing units from the base. Investing in drops or nydus, particularly in the mid game,which is what u are implying, are not viable without causing significant damage.. This is amplfied with the fact that a map like xel naga where defending drops is fairly easy with blink stalkers or the like.

I am not saying nestea played perfectly,he obviously made critical mistakes in game 2 and 3, However it is pretty evident that mistakes made from a toss player are negated much quicker, and are much easier to mitigate with the various mechanics they have at there disposal.



its not bullshit 90% of all ZVP game is 15 hatch drone drone drone drone drone roach hydras mutas thats it..

So easy for the protoss to counter that sicne they played against that a million time. Its time for the zerg community to start thinking outside the box.

Like i sayd before its like playing poker and showing you opponent you hands..

I am glad that there is some zerg that have started to think outside the box abit l8tly dimaga,sheth and spanishwa come to mind..

So to sum it up Zerg need to "evolve"


hahaha. 15 hatch

HAHAHAHA. Protoss can SAFILY FAST EXPAND WHILST PUNISHING A FAST EXPANDING ZERG PLAYER. Forge expand for a protoss kills a 14 hatch So you always will have to gas pool expo. Which means you will always be behind in eco(on most maps). Mutas? Kidding me? lmao. PvZ is just a completely broken matchup. No doubt about it. PvT is quite shit as well.




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growlizing
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway122 Posts
April 24 2011 11:44 GMT
#246
Any vods of the Dimaga games?
IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 12:01:59
April 24 2011 12:01 GMT
#247
Yea, are there VOD's somewhere?

edit: nvm^^
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 17:17:30
April 24 2011 13:35 GMT
#248
mod edit.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 24 2011 15:35 GMT
#249
On April 24 2011 22:35 Benjef wrote:
Some results that ain't been posted.

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk 2-0ed MorroW.

Didn't see that coming though MorroW had it in him easily .


Damn huge upset here too
+ Show Spoiler +
Chinese Qualifier (LoveTT) beat FD, Zergs arn't doing very well atm....


Source - http://sc2.cn/xingji2.php?action-viewnews-itemid-18346-page-9

i hope LoveTT will still do good, he was one of my favorites from BW
Are Lx and PJ playing SC2?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ct2299
Profile Joined February 2011
380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 15:42:30
April 24 2011 15:40 GMT
#250
Hasn't FOX.Lyn been doing awful lately?



+ Show Spoiler +
Great job Dimaga, truly a great player


Still waiting for an actual legitimate good North American player to appear (lol) instead of all these Europeans and Asians (Taiwanese, Chinese etc.).
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 17:10:46
April 24 2011 17:06 GMT
#251
On April 24 2011 22:35 Benjef wrote:
Some results that ain't been posted.

+ Show Spoiler +
Find out later!


Damn huge upset here too
+ Show Spoiler +
Find out later!


Source - http://sc2.cn/xingji2.php?action-viewnews-itemid-18346-page-9




Quit going through and posting unbroadcasted results. Seriously. U did this in our other thread as well. These games will be streamed by us, no need in senseless spoiling. It ruins the whole point of casting. TT
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
lowkontrast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 17:12:51
April 24 2011 17:12 GMT
#252
On April 24 2011 22:35 Benjef wrote:Damn huge upset here too
+ Show Spoiler +
Chinese Qualifier (LoveTT) beat FD, Zergs arn't doing very well atm....


Source - http://sc2.cn/xingji2.php?action-viewnews-itemid-18346-page-9


How is that an upset? + Show Spoiler +
FD has been playing really poorly ever since he won GSL.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 17:24:17
April 24 2011 17:19 GMT
#253
On April 25 2011 02:12 lowkontrast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 22:35 Benjef wrote:Damn huge upset here too
+ Show Spoiler +
Chinese Qualifier (LoveTT) beat FD, Zergs arn't doing very well atm....


Source - http://sc2.cn/xingji2.php?action-viewnews-itemid-18346-page-9


How is that an upset? + Show Spoiler +
FD has been playing really poorly ever since he won GSL.

There is no upset man, just all zerg loosing like always... lol... ho and DIMAGA

On April 24 2011 10:29 Nerdslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:44 bluestuff wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:19 Nerdslayer wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:13 bluestuff wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:09 Nerdslayer wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:08 bluestuff wrote:
man watching one of the best zegs in the world losing to a relatively unknown protoss player makes me sad........


Nastea was gready took a quick 3rd base. thats why he lost and lovecd had nice blink macro so stop with the balance crap. If nestea had played safe this woulnt had happend

Funny you say that, when the protoss can forge fast expand and therefore is expected not be punished at all right, but a zerg player trying to capitalize on this "defensive' protoss build is being "greedy".



Wrong but most zergs are greedy and onedimensional look at game 3 today copenhagen game morrow vs MC. MC did the usual build 3 gate into forge expand. standard. Morrow decide to go for fast baneling drops on his main and it worked perfectly. why? becuase it was unexpected.

Like i sayd so many times as soon zergs learn to play creative and stop being so goddam greedy and onedimensional they will have trouble..


+ Show Spoiler +
that worked pretty well, considering he lost the series 3-1 right?
.

This argument that zerg are lazy/greedy/uncreative is absolute bullshit.. Its completely unreasonable to expect zerg to consistently win pvz games with cutesy play, that many times are equivalent to a coin flip for either player. Using nydus/drops would be fine in the matchup if the zerg didn't depend on every single unit in there main army inorder to beat off any agression. As we saw many times in this series and countless others, battles by the zerg were won or lost just barely by the flow of reinforcing units from the base. Investing in drops or nydus, particularly in the mid game,which is what u are implying, are not viable without causing significant damage.. This is amplfied with the fact that a map like xel naga where defending drops is fairly easy with blink stalkers or the like.

I am not saying nestea played perfectly,he obviously made critical mistakes in game 2 and 3, However it is pretty evident that mistakes made from a toss player are negated much quicker, and are much easier to mitigate with the various mechanics they have at there disposal.



its not bullshit 90% of all ZVP game is 15 hatch drone drone drone drone drone roach hydras mutas thats it..

So easy for the protoss to counter that sicne they played against that a million time. Its time for the zerg community to start thinking outside the box.

Like i sayd before its like playing poker and showing you opponent you hands..

I am glad that there is some zerg that have started to think outside the box abit l8tly dimaga,sheth and spanishwa come to mind..

So to sum it up Zerg need to "evolve"

Can I ask you what should zerg do? Do you know drone are needed to gather mineral ? Do you know most zerg go for a 14 gaz 14 pool then expand just to feel safe ? Do you know protoss players all do the same build 3 gate expand into colossi with sometimes void rays ? Do you know many zerg go for ling bling or ling infestor instead of roach hydra ?

Do you know you are clueless ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 24 2011 17:48 GMT
#254
Wow another tournament lending credence to the fact foreigners maybe equal to Koreans.
MC for president
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
April 24 2011 21:06 GMT
#255
TLO and DIMAGA , both nice guys , nice that both are through
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
April 24 2011 23:12 GMT
#256
On April 25 2011 02:48 tdt wrote:
Wow another tournament lending credence to the fact foreigners maybe equal to Koreans.

lag
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
April 24 2011 23:28 GMT
#257
Will there be english vods anywhere?
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
April 24 2011 23:30 GMT
#258
On April 25 2011 08:28 bdictkam wrote:
Will there be english vods anywhere?



All our vods are on our ustream immediately after the games are casted. They are then uploaded to our youtube channel shortly afterwards.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
April 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#259
On April 25 2011 08:30 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 08:28 bdictkam wrote:
Will there be english vods anywhere?



All our vods are on our ustream immediately after the games are casted. They are then uploaded to our youtube channel shortly afterwards.


Thank you
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
April 26 2011 23:11 GMT
#260
Not sure why HongUn felt the need to 4 gate two games in a row after he won the first game...

But good series for the most part. It was pretty great in the third game when it came down to a small skirmish, and one of the casters was convinced TLO's force would lose. TLO's guys were pinned against force fields but then he just picked up and dropped any wounded units right BEHIND the force field. Great display of micro!
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