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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 24 2011 00:13 GMT
#181
Uh, it was pretty obvious why Nestea lost. Did you even see his third getting sniped? He lost EVERY DRONE THERE (about 10) and the hatch because he got caught with his pants down with about 8 zerglings against 2-3 rounds of +1 zealot and stalker warp-ins.

Nestea didn't scout the proxy pylon and over-droned. That's why he lost.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 24 2011 00:13 GMT
#182
On April 24 2011 09:11 emesen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:09 Tachion wrote:
That was a bad read by Nestea. Transitioning into ling/muta against mass blink stalker :[ Wish he had stuck with roach/ling or roach/hydra.


greedy how? it's the response to a forge FE... 2 base toss vs 2 base zerg = dead zerg unless he all ins... his third just got picked off by the proxy pylon pressure from lonecd which was a good response to the 3rd from nestea... so uh yeah.... dunno what you're smoking...



....what? I think you quoted the wrong person >_>
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
April 24 2011 00:13 GMT
#183
On April 24 2011 09:09 Nerdslayer wrote:
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On April 24 2011 09:08 bluestuff wrote:
man watching one of the best zegs in the world losing to a relatively unknown protoss player makes me sad........


Nastea was gready took a quick 3rd base. thats why he lost and lovecd had nice blink macro so stop with the balance crap. If nestea had played safe this woulnt had happend

Funny you say that, when the protoss can forge fast expand and therefore is expected not be punished at all right, but a zerg player trying to capitalize on this "defensive' protoss build is being "greedy".
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
April 24 2011 00:14 GMT
#184
On April 24 2011 09:12 JJH777 wrote:
This game is so horrible for zergs right now. And seriously what tourney actually still has close spawns? MLG/TSL/IPL/GSL/NASL all have them removed.

Not NASL yet I'm pretty sure (unless it was the past day or so).
the farm ends here
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
April 24 2011 00:14 GMT
#185
On April 24 2011 09:11 emesen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:09 Tachion wrote:
That was a bad read by Nestea. Transitioning into ling/muta against mass blink stalker :[ Wish he had stuck with roach/ling or roach/hydra.


greedy how? it's the response to a forge FE... 2 base toss vs 2 base zerg = dead zerg unless he all ins... his third just got picked off by the proxy pylon pressure from lonecd which was a good response to the 3rd from nestea... so uh yeah.... dunno what you're smoking...




Well I say greedy because the toss was not going for colossus or anything high tech. He could of fought off the stalker aggression off two base.
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
April 24 2011 00:15 GMT
#186
Nestea would have won the second game very easily if he committed to the all-in. I'm not sure what stopped him. Last game, his lair tech was unreasonably slow and his mid-game scouting was poor. He was up 30 supply after losing his third but decided against poking at least?

His recent interview said he was withholding some strategies. I really don't feel like I saw the best games from him.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
minru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States78 Posts
April 24 2011 00:15 GMT
#187
On April 24 2011 09:11 emesen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:09 Tachion wrote:
That was a bad read by Nestea. Transitioning into ling/muta against mass blink stalker :[ Wish he had stuck with roach/ling or roach/hydra.


greedy how? it's the response to a forge FE... 2 base toss vs 2 base zerg = dead zerg unless he all ins... his third just got picked off by the proxy pylon pressure from lonecd which was a good response to the 3rd from nestea... so uh yeah.... dunno what you're smoking...




lol wut? He didn't mention Nestea being greedy anywhere. And he's right.. Blink stalkers > Muta.. Pretty sure you're the one smoking here.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 24 2011 00:16 GMT
#188
On April 24 2011 09:15 Klamity wrote:
Nestea would have won the second game very easily if he committed to the all-in. I'm not sure what stopped him. Last game, his lair tech was unreasonably slow and his mid-game scouting was poor. He was up 30 supply after losing his third but decided against poking at least?

His recent interview said he was withholding some strategies. I really don't feel like I saw the best games from him.


That wasn't a strategic loss though. It was just him playing sloppy. Don't think Nestea thought he could lose against some random scrub from China. Well, that proved to be his undoing. At least he'll have more time to focus on GSL.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
April 24 2011 00:19 GMT
#189
On April 24 2011 09:16 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:15 Klamity wrote:
Nestea would have won the second game very easily if he committed to the all-in. I'm not sure what stopped him. Last game, his lair tech was unreasonably slow and his mid-game scouting was poor. He was up 30 supply after losing his third but decided against poking at least?

His recent interview said he was withholding some strategies. I really don't feel like I saw the best games from him.


That wasn't a strategic loss though. It was just him playing sloppy. Don't think Nestea thought he could lose against some random scrub from China. Well, that proved to be his undoing. At least he'll have more time to focus on GSL.

You don't get to play for WE and just be a random scrub.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
April 24 2011 00:19 GMT
#190
On April 24 2011 09:13 bluestuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:09 Nerdslayer wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:08 bluestuff wrote:
man watching one of the best zegs in the world losing to a relatively unknown protoss player makes me sad........


Nastea was gready took a quick 3rd base. thats why he lost and lovecd had nice blink macro so stop with the balance crap. If nestea had played safe this woulnt had happend

Funny you say that, when the protoss can forge fast expand and therefore is expected not be punished at all right, but a zerg player trying to capitalize on this "defensive' protoss build is being "greedy".



Wrong but most zergs are greedy and onedimensional look at game 3 today copenhagen game morrow vs MC. MC did the usual build 3 gate into forge expand. standard. Morrow decide to go for fast baneling drops on his main and it worked perfectly. why? becuase it was unexpected.

Like i sayd so many times as soon zergs learn to play creative and stop being so goddam greedy and onedimensional they will have trouble..

Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 00:20:45
April 24 2011 00:19 GMT
#191
On April 24 2011 09:14 RajaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:11 emesen wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:09 Tachion wrote:
That was a bad read by Nestea. Transitioning into ling/muta against mass blink stalker :[ Wish he had stuck with roach/ling or roach/hydra.


greedy how? it's the response to a forge FE... 2 base toss vs 2 base zerg = dead zerg unless he all ins... his third just got picked off by the proxy pylon pressure from lonecd which was a good response to the 3rd from nestea... so uh yeah.... dunno what you're smoking...




Well I say greedy because the toss was not going for colossus or anything high tech. He could of fought off the stalker aggression off two base.

.... you can't be serious....

if the protoss saw that he was on 2 base he would never have attacked with just blink stalkers and just ended up teching and macroing until he would end up way too far ahead for nestea to come back

that was not a greedy build when it's a very standard reaction to a forge FE
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
April 24 2011 00:20 GMT
#192
On April 24 2011 09:16 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:15 Klamity wrote:
Nestea would have won the second game very easily if he committed to the all-in. I'm not sure what stopped him. Last game, his lair tech was unreasonably slow and his mid-game scouting was poor. He was up 30 supply after losing his third but decided against poking at least?

His recent interview said he was withholding some strategies. I really don't feel like I saw the best games from him.


That wasn't a strategic loss though. It was just him playing sloppy. Don't think Nestea thought he could lose against some random scrub from China. Well, that proved to be his undoing. At least he'll have more time to focus on GSL.


I don't think he lost on purpose. I just don't think he cared enough to prepare for these games or to reveal his best/standard builds.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 00:23:20
April 24 2011 00:22 GMT
#193
On April 24 2011 09:20 Klamity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:16 Azarkon wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:15 Klamity wrote:
Nestea would have won the second game very easily if he committed to the all-in. I'm not sure what stopped him. Last game, his lair tech was unreasonably slow and his mid-game scouting was poor. He was up 30 supply after losing his third but decided against poking at least?

His recent interview said he was withholding some strategies. I really don't feel like I saw the best games from him.


That wasn't a strategic loss though. It was just him playing sloppy. Don't think Nestea thought he could lose against some random scrub from China. Well, that proved to be his undoing. At least he'll have more time to focus on GSL.


I don't think he lost on purpose. I just don't think he cared enough to prepare for these games or to reveal his best/standard builds.


I don't mean he lost on purpose. I mean that he played sloppy. His builds were fairly standard and could've worked. He just didn't execute them as well as he should have. For example, not scouting for proxies, over-droning, etc.
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
April 24 2011 00:24 GMT
#194
<3 orb! he's a really solid caster
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
April 24 2011 00:31 GMT
#195
Edward Norton knows when TLO needs medivacs
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 24 2011 00:36 GMT
#196
On April 24 2011 09:22 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 09:20 Klamity wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:16 Azarkon wrote:
On April 24 2011 09:15 Klamity wrote:
Nestea would have won the second game very easily if he committed to the all-in. I'm not sure what stopped him. Last game, his lair tech was unreasonably slow and his mid-game scouting was poor. He was up 30 supply after losing his third but decided against poking at least?

His recent interview said he was withholding some strategies. I really don't feel like I saw the best games from him.


That wasn't a strategic loss though. It was just him playing sloppy. Don't think Nestea thought he could lose against some random scrub from China. Well, that proved to be his undoing. At least he'll have more time to focus on GSL.


I don't think he lost on purpose. I just don't think he cared enough to prepare for these games or to reveal his best/standard builds.


I don't mean he lost on purpose. I mean that he played sloppy. His builds were fairly standard and could've worked. He just didn't execute them as well as he should have. For example, not scouting for proxies, over-droning, etc.

exatcly, he was so passive, almost like he didnt care , prolly focusing on gsl
Stork[gm]
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
April 24 2011 00:37 GMT
#197
On April 24 2011 09:11 udgnim wrote:
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On April 24 2011 09:08 Dragar wrote:
It surprises me how so many Protoss players consider stalkers to be a bad unit.


Stalkers without blink are meh

Stalkers with blink are really good


Yup!
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
April 24 2011 00:41 GMT
#198
It's funny listening to SC2-games being casted in Edward Nortons voice.

I can't get over the similarity.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
April 24 2011 00:43 GMT
#199
Hopefully TLO can pull out a win and go to a third game.
Don't mind me
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 24 2011 00:43 GMT
#200
I am Jacks' Starcraft 2 commentary.
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