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On April 24 2011 04:19 Blyadischa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 04:17 Mailing wrote:
I thought protoss figured out how to beat MMM every game months ago =/ Adelscott I think fluked his way to the RO8. He makes rudimentary mistakes, whether it be multi-tasking, macroing, or decision making, but no one knew how to beat his mass gateway style before except for thorzain, but he's on the other side of the bracket. Kas presses Adelscott in every game, forces him to make those mistakes.
Adelscott has been playing this style for ages. Any player going into a match with Adel should be prepared for that style. If they're not then they really don't deserve to win however good they are. If they are (which I imagine most pros are) then the win is down to Adel playing well.
He's got some weaknesses to his game I agree but he does some things really really well.
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What's with Chill and his "Artosis so handsome" xDDDD
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On April 24 2011 04:22 Yaotzin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 04:21 Raji wrote:On April 24 2011 04:20 .Riot wrote:
Imo Adelscott was right going back to his base. Terran Prod facilities fly away while your base gets killed by that bio. By turning around he losses 10 times out of 10, at least by base trading he has a chance. They are both 100% losses. You lose when your army is caught so badly out of position. The rest is just dotting the i's.
Stalker/colossus can kill barracks before they fly away, and once the buildings are gone/floating, the protoss army can beat at terran army in battle.
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On April 24 2011 04:21 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 04:20 Silkath wrote:On April 24 2011 04:18 loveeholicce wrote:
Adel definitely didn't play his best lol. Floating 1.8 k minerals and had complete map control, yet didn't get that 3rd for 4 minutes wtf O-o Adel is often up at 1k minerals. If he can improve his macro he'll be one scary player. Not that getting to the Ro8 in the TSL is a non-scary thing to have achieved. If youre keeping your gateways synced you should be around that before you make the next production cycle though. Adelscott having 2k with only 5 gateways is just plain bad multi task. Personally i think Artosis is giving him too much credit
Agree with you, his macro is bad.
However, Day9 and Artosis both hold Adel in the highest regards despite his bad macro though. But i think that's testament to how good his build and timings are.
He'll improve on his macro i hope.
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On April 24 2011 04:21 skycaptain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 04:19 Blyadischa wrote:On April 24 2011 04:17 Mailing wrote:
I thought protoss figured out how to beat MMM every game months ago =/ Adelscott I think fluked his way to the RO8. He makes rudimentary mistakes, whether it be multi-tasking, macroing, or decision making, but no one knew how to beat his mass gateway style before except for thorzain, but he's on the other side of the bracket. Kas presses Adelscott in every game, forces him to make those mistakes. You don't fluke your way into the RO8 in one of the most stacked SC2 tournaments to date. That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.
Thank you. This may have been one of the hardest tourneys to qualify for ever.
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On April 24 2011 04:23 Fungal Growth wrote:
I don't under when toss goes mass zealots and sentries late game... Zealots just don't work with forcefields unless the terran is in all out retreat. Gas on sentries would have much better been spent on forge upgrades or storm.
They do, they let chargelots maximize DPS, but adelscott's FFs were bad, they were in front of the ball instead of splitting it in half, protecting terran ball from chargelots.
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On April 24 2011 04:21 skycaptain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 04:19 Blyadischa wrote:On April 24 2011 04:17 Mailing wrote:
I thought protoss figured out how to beat MMM every game months ago =/ Adelscott I think fluked his way to the RO8. He makes rudimentary mistakes, whether it be multi-tasking, macroing, or decision making, but no one knew how to beat his mass gateway style before except for thorzain, but he's on the other side of the bracket. Kas presses Adelscott in every game, forces him to make those mistakes. You don't fluke your way into the RO8 in one of the most stacked SC2 tournaments to date. That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.
i wouldnt dismiss this line of thought so easily. He played pretty poorly for TSL Ro8 standards.
This is one of the downsides of upsets happening earlier in the tournament.
Often times after a player pulls off an amazing win against a favorite they just scrub out in the later rounds and it devolves the play from then on..from a spectating point of view. It feels like we get robbed of what could of been with the more consistent players advancing instead.
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On April 24 2011 04:23 Silkath wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 04:19 Blyadischa wrote:On April 24 2011 04:17 Mailing wrote:
I thought protoss figured out how to beat MMM every game months ago =/ Adelscott I think fluked his way to the RO8. He makes rudimentary mistakes, whether it be multi-tasking, macroing, or decision making, but no one knew how to beat his mass gateway style before except for thorzain, but he's on the other side of the bracket. Kas presses Adelscott in every game, forces him to make those mistakes. Adelscott has been playing this style for ages. Any player going into a match with Adel should be prepared for that style. If they're not then they really don't deserve to win however good they are. If they are (which I imagine most pros are) then the win is down to Adel playing well. He's got some weaknesses to his game I agree but he does some things really really well.
He isn't playing "his style" right now.
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Did Adel just trick Kas with that probe?
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On April 24 2011 04:24 Funkatron wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 04:21 skycaptain wrote:On April 24 2011 04:19 Blyadischa wrote:On April 24 2011 04:17 Mailing wrote:
I thought protoss figured out how to beat MMM every game months ago =/ Adelscott I think fluked his way to the RO8. He makes rudimentary mistakes, whether it be multi-tasking, macroing, or decision making, but no one knew how to beat his mass gateway style before except for thorzain, but he's on the other side of the bracket. Kas presses Adelscott in every game, forces him to make those mistakes. You don't fluke your way into the RO8 in one of the most stacked SC2 tournaments to date. That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. Thank you. This may have been one of the hardest tourneys to qualify for ever.
No dude he was just fluking for months during the TL Opens, just fluking over and over again, then fluked past two of the worlds best terrans.
Total fluke.
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On April 24 2011 04:22 s4life wrote:
This Europe vs Korea thing will get settled once we have Naniwa vs MC and Kas vs MVP in a bo7.. I put my money on the europeans.. that is unless the truly top talented koreans stop playing SC1 and move to SC2.
Naniwa could beat MC but as much as I like Kas I don't think he has the same finesse and starsense MVP displays.
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hahahahaha chill hesitating to say "just feeling each other up" LOL!!
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Just realized no zerg left in the tsl......makes me a sad panda....><
PvT and TvT is fun....but still, any match up with zerg in it just seems more interesting
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On April 24 2011 04:23 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 04:22 Yaotzin wrote:On April 24 2011 04:21 Raji wrote:On April 24 2011 04:20 .Riot wrote:
Imo Adelscott was right going back to his base. Terran Prod facilities fly away while your base gets killed by that bio. By turning around he losses 10 times out of 10, at least by base trading he has a chance. They are both 100% losses. You lose when your army is caught so badly out of position. The rest is just dotting the i's. Stalker/colossus can kill barracks before they fly away, and once the buildings are gone/floating, the protoss army can beat at terran army in battle.
That's if your actually there. He has CCs all over. Stalkers are not going to run at the speed of light to catch everything.
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Hmm why blaming Adel on macro ? He's always near to Kas in population, while kas is a macro monster (see grubby vs kas copenhangen games), so I don't get comments.
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On April 24 2011 04:21 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 04:21 starcraft2rush wrote:On April 24 2011 04:20 .Riot wrote:
Imo Adelscott was right going back to his base. Terran Prod facilities fly away while your base gets killed by that bio. no way was that the right decision. He was all the way in the terrans base already...it wasn't even a hard choice. So many stalkers kill production before it flies away
Marauders kill buildings faster than stalkers do and stalkers cant fly
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I am a huge fan of macro play and Kas is so good at it. I can't be the only zerg that thinks about changing to terran because of Kas.
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Again, kas with the suicide reaper. 
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On April 24 2011 04:25 Gevna wrote:
Hmm why blaming Adel on macro ? He's always near to Kas in population, while kas is a macro monster (see grubby vs kas copenhangen games), so I don't get comments.
it's quite obvious that 2000minerals floating aren't a thing you want to have :|
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