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Lord_of_Chaos
Profile Joined June 2007
Sweden372 Posts
April 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#1901
I don't think Adel's decision was that bad actually. He just executed it badly. The idea was probably to sacrifice his third, force field his ramp and trap the terran army in a bad position. Then go back and steamroll Kas when he had no army. He just failed to capture his army and didn't consider the possibility of that drop.

Wasn't a good decision, but definetly not a terrible one either.
Callosum
Profile Joined April 2010
United States56 Posts
April 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#1902
On April 24 2011 04:20 ParadigmSchism wrote:
Kas learned from game 2. Upgrades ftw!


For real. 2-2 vs. 0-0 is no contest.
ho hum
skycaptain
Profile Joined October 2010
United States101 Posts
April 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#1903
On April 24 2011 04:19 Blyadischa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 04:17 Mailing wrote:
I thought protoss figured out how to beat MMM every game months ago =/


Adelscott I think fluked his way to the RO8. He makes rudimentary mistakes, whether it be multi-tasking, macroing, or decision making, but no one knew how to beat his mass gateway style before except for thorzain, but he's on the other side of the bracket. Kas presses Adelscott in every game, forces him to make those mistakes.


You don't fluke your way into the RO8 in one of the most stacked SC2 tournaments to date. That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.
Raji
Profile Joined April 2010
United States31 Posts
April 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#1904
On April 24 2011 04:20 .Riot wrote:
Imo Adelscott was right going back to his base. Terran Prod facilities fly away while your base gets killed by that bio.


By turning around he losses 10 times out of 10, at least by base trading he has a chance.
Sucka
Helluva
Profile Joined September 2010
United States651 Posts
April 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#1905
Nice game there by Kas!
2-2 T ups vs 0-0 P.
ouchies.
<3
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
April 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#1906
On April 24 2011 04:19 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 04:18 MasterKush wrote:
Kas can only win by base trading. zzzzzzz


you mean only win by having better macro, harass, upgrades, unit composition and decision making? I thought so.

His unit control was superior too.

Yeah, that 2 wounded marauders + medivac drop at adel's high ground natural left me speechless. He killed like 5 probes and 2 free stalkers without taking any real damage.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#1907
On April 24 2011 04:20 Silkath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 04:18 loveeholicce wrote:
Adel definitely didn't play his best lol. Floating 1.8 k minerals and had complete map control, yet didn't get that 3rd for 4 minutes wtf O-o


Adel is often up at 1k minerals. If he can improve his macro he'll be one scary player. Not that getting to the Ro8 in the TSL is a non-scary thing to have achieved.

If youre keeping your gateways synced you should be around that before you make the next production cycle though.

Adelscott having 2k with only 5 gateways is just plain bad multi task.
Personally i think Artosis is giving him too much credit
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#1908
On April 24 2011 04:21 starcraft2rush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 04:20 .Riot wrote:
Imo Adelscott was right going back to his base. Terran Prod facilities fly away while your base gets killed by that bio.


no way was that the right decision. He was all the way in the terrans base already...it wasn't even a hard choice.


So many stalkers kill production before it flies away
Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
April 23 2011 19:22 GMT
#1909
[image loading]

Come on, Kas, you can do it!
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
April 23 2011 19:22 GMT
#1910
Adel did a tremendous error not attacking terran base
if play random i can't call any race imba?
Callosum
Profile Joined April 2010
United States56 Posts
April 23 2011 19:22 GMT
#1911
I don't think Adelscott is a fluke, there's a lot to be said for creative playstyles.
ho hum
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
April 23 2011 19:22 GMT
#1912
On April 24 2011 04:21 Raji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 04:20 .Riot wrote:
Imo Adelscott was right going back to his base. Terran Prod facilities fly away while your base gets killed by that bio.


By turning around he losses 10 times out of 10, at least by base trading he has a chance.

They are both 100% losses. You lose when your army is caught so badly out of position. The rest is just dotting the i's.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
April 23 2011 19:22 GMT
#1913
This Europe vs Korea thing will get settled once we have Naniwa vs MC and Kas vs MVP in a bo7.. I put my money on the europeans.. that is unless the truly top talented koreans stop playing SC1 and move to SC2.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
April 23 2011 19:22 GMT
#1914
On April 24 2011 04:20 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 04:14 Vimsey wrote:
Was he seriously suggesting Adelscott should base trade there with no air?

If you aren't planning on basetrading, don't sit in front of the Terran's empty base while their army is on the map.

Thats not what happened
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
April 23 2011 19:22 GMT
#1915
Adelscott's not that bad of a player... It's just his multitasked macro that's subpar. But his starting build order is really solid.
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
Justanx
Profile Joined November 2010
United States240 Posts
April 23 2011 19:23 GMT
#1916
On April 24 2011 04:21 skycaptain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 04:19 Blyadischa wrote:
On April 24 2011 04:17 Mailing wrote:
I thought protoss figured out how to beat MMM every game months ago =/


Adelscott I think fluked his way to the RO8. He makes rudimentary mistakes, whether it be multi-tasking, macroing, or decision making, but no one knew how to beat his mass gateway style before except for thorzain, but he's on the other side of the bracket. Kas presses Adelscott in every game, forces him to make those mistakes.


You don't fluke your way into the RO8 in one of the most stacked SC2 tournaments to date. That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.


Hey TSL_Rain made it to GSL finals, so anything can happen, I wouldn't count it out
Ding Dong Usama is dead
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 23 2011 19:23 GMT
#1917
I don't under when toss goes mass zealots and sentries late game... Zealots just don't work with forcefields unless the terran is in all out retreat. Gas on sentries would have much better been spent on forge upgrades or storm.
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
April 23 2011 19:23 GMT
#1918
On April 24 2011 04:18 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 04:17 The KY wrote:
On April 24 2011 04:15 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 24 2011 04:14 The KY wrote:
On April 24 2011 04:13 vdale wrote:
you can't basetrade with a terran.


0_o Yes you can, if you have stalkers.

Stalkers can fly now?


What?

You can't base trade with a Terran unless you have flying units.

of course you can, as long as you have enough probes/mins to get another base up, which adel could have done easily.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
thesmoosh
Profile Joined September 2010
113 Posts
April 23 2011 19:23 GMT
#1919
On April 24 2011 04:21 Lord_of_Chaos wrote:
I don't think Adel's decision was that bad actually. He just executed it badly. The idea was probably to sacrifice his third, force field his ramp and trap the terran army in a bad position. Then go back and steamroll Kas when he had no army. He just failed to capture his army and didn't consider the possibility of that drop.

Wasn't a good decision, but definetly not a terrible one either.


This. Way too many people criticizing amazing players like adel and being too stupid to understand what the reasoning behind the decision actually was.
Thor-axe the Impaler
Profile Joined April 2010
United States331 Posts
April 23 2011 19:23 GMT
#1920
Everything Artosis says is so calculated and observed. That's the real difference between him and people like Husky who simply talk quickly and make jokes while they talk about what they see.
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