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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#621
On April 18 2011 03:34 hidiliho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 03:33 Durp wrote:
On April 18 2011 03:32 Whitewing wrote:
Naniwa needed carriers.

No joke, he needed carriers, not colossi.

QFT.
Carriers > T Mech


How would he be able to transition to Carriers?


Not go DTs or robo? He started off with a stargate. How COULDN'T he transition to carriers?
Justanx
Profile Joined November 2010
United States240 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#622
Favorite players, Idra, and anyone playing against Naniwaaah
Ding Dong Usama is dead
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 18:36:42
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#623
Wonder why Naniwa was going Colossus when he forced Vikings out.

He was playing flawlessly till that first engagement.
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#624
On April 18 2011 03:33 Caphe wrote:
wow Goody really impress me here. TSL why so good, I have to admit TSL brings one of the best matches in many tourney this month/


agreed.. been some cool games, especially yesterday..

~ The Ultimate Weapon
darksage78
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada243 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#625
C'mon Nani, I want to see a MC vs Nani grand finals >=)
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#626
I feel like its a good time to finally sign up here


gogogo General :D
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#627
On April 18 2011 03:33 Bergys wrote:
Why is goody the only one to figure styles like this out? They are sick good. I mean goody has really awful macro and is not very good but still he's able to beat players like naniwa and nestea etc.


Jinro did it vs. MC in the GSL--he actually knocked him out with it, and it was the only season of the past 3 MC didn't win.

Tarson also did it against White-Ra.

People theorycrafted this to death since the beta, and it was actually pretty popular back when tanks did 50 flat damage.

Goody really deserves credit, though, for sticking with it and refining it.
Sickworld
Profile Joined March 2011
437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 18:37:48
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#628
On April 18 2011 03:34 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 03:34 ckukner wrote:
Why no carriers, no I am not a bronze league scrub. Carrier+ phonix could have won him the game. Anyone experienced in carrier play against mech can tell us?


Carriers take too long to make, plus look at how many vikings Goody had.

nvm
Leave it to me
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 18:37:06
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#629
On April 18 2011 03:35 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 03:34 archflames wrote:
are hellions too powerful against workers?
if i'm correct, vulture mines in sc1 aren't triggered by workers... i think hellions are a little too powerful against them and blizz should do something about it.

nah. vultures can kill probes in almost the exact same manner and are probably a bit more reliable about it

Hellions require a lower critical mass to kill probes instantly. Vultures have more utility with their mines though.
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Housemd
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1407 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#630
On April 18 2011 03:36 R3N wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 03:34 archflames wrote:
are hellions too powerful against workers?
if i'm correct, vulture mines in sc1 aren't triggered by workers... i think hellions are a little too powerful against them and blizz should do something about it.


against workers too powerful, against regular units not so much =p



Vultures also had the speed upgrade and did pretty much the same amount of damage to workers that hellions do, maybe more.
Fantasy is a beast
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#631
Finally...terran realizes the power of hellions on these macro maps vs chargelots and expansions.

Nani broke a cardinal toss rule with his last expansion...always include at least one pylon for emergency warp ins. A couple of stalkers could have really shut down that first hellion attack.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#632
On April 18 2011 03:35 oGm`REM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 03:34 Cryhavoc wrote:
no marines? void rays for teh win

Because Void Rays > Thors/Vikings right?


Yes void rays do take down thors. More vikings means his tank numbers will be lower so they help there too. Carriers are more ideal though.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 18:38:21
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#633
The composition vs Mech is Immortals, Blink Stalkers (to get on top of the tanks) and Templar (for storms on tanks). I used to mech a TON in beta when I played Terran, and the best players lead with Immos- then Blink onto Tanks, then Storm the shit out of anything else. Naniwa's composition was as if Goody went bio.

The only thing I liked was the DT's for map control and harass. It forces Terran to do a whole lot, also fairly easy to get if you're getting Blink and HT anyways.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#634
at the beginning all hate goody , cause he´s so lame.
but more games you see , you like him even more
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
Maitolasi
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland441 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#635
I think Naniwa should have used all that excess gas for archons tbh
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#636
On April 18 2011 03:36 darksage78 wrote:
C'mon Nani, I want to see a MC vs Nani grand finals >=)


nice one
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REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#637
On April 18 2011 03:34 archflames wrote:
are hellions too powerful against workers?
if i'm correct, vulture mines in sc1 aren't triggered by workers... i think hellions are a little too powerful against them and blizz should do something about it.

to be honest if vultures reached an unprotected base in bw he was even more fucked because he had no wapgates and there were 100% mines in the way to the expo to clear up. So even though hellions kill workers faster it doesn't matter.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
April 17 2011 18:37 GMT
#638
On April 18 2011 03:36 Justanx wrote:
Favorite players, Idra, and anyone playing against Naniwaaah

If you're going to call him Naniwaaah then surely it's also Crydra.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 17 2011 18:37 GMT
#639
On April 18 2011 03:35 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 03:34 hidiliho wrote:
On April 18 2011 03:33 Durp wrote:
On April 18 2011 03:32 Whitewing wrote:
Naniwa needed carriers.

No joke, he needed carriers, not colossi.

QFT.
Carriers > T Mech


How would he be able to transition to Carriers?


carriers aren't > mass vikings anyways. they are just a waste of money.

Carriers are pretty costeffective vs Vikings, but tbh Goody started making Vikings so early that I don't think Naniwa had the time to build up the numbers quickly enough.
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Crazyahmed
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada280 Posts
April 17 2011 18:37 GMT
#640
On April 18 2011 03:33 Bergys wrote:
Why is goody the only one to figure styles like this out? They are sick good. I mean goody has really awful macro and is not very good but still he's able to beat players like naniwa and nestea etc.


his mechanics may not be very good, but his decision making and unit positioning in long games especially in TvT is impressive
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