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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3441
To be honest, roach corrupter cant beat voidray colossus stalker, he out played him hard but the deathball can not be stopped with roaches + corrupter
IMNestea's biggest fan.
VEReHrT
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada121 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3442
On April 18 2011 05:18 travis wrote:
stop complaining people, jesus christ. not giving cruncher any credit at all... u don't realize how good his defensive play was. mondragon lost LOTS of units over and over. his play was amazing and great to watch but not all of it was that cost effective.


you post as if they are amenable to reason
As long as we keep our passion as progamers, we will always have an opportunity to meet again. On a purely personal note, I'd like to show him the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. SlayerS_BoxeR
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3443
That was easily some of the best zerg harass I've ever seen. Now I am sad.
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3444
On April 18 2011 05:17 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Mondragon plays beautifully all game with multipronged attacks an harassment...

Cruncher a-moves and wins.

NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3445
Mondragon was never that far ahead in supply or economy due to constant aggresson/donating units. Compare to an Idra game where Idra is 200 to 160, while in that game it was 180 to 160 with a much worse economy.

Mad props to Mondragon for trying though.
PGriff
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3446
Ya how is his defense brilliant??? He built a shitload of cannons and just a-moved his ball from drop to drop.

Then he a-moves and wins toss is fucking retarded

User was temp banned for this post.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3447
I want Mondragon to win so bad.. he will win on the bigger maps, I believe :D Go go go!
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Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3448
i dont see how cruncher played that so badly that he didnt deserve the win. i mean what else was he supposed to do lol. if mondragon's style was completely unbeatable then it would be unbalanced. cruncher defended well, gg to him
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:21:14
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3449
On April 18 2011 05:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Cruncher's dead. Voids are gone.

gg soon.

Hmmmm, you don't play against Colossi-VR-Stalkers too much do you?

It may seem that Mondragon completely outplayed Cruncher, but keep in mind his style is not cost efficient at all, it needs to pick early colossus, a VR or two, getting a robotics bay, sniping like 30 probes, denying third expos or else, there comes that point where P slowly adds unit to his deathball while the Z doesn't have a 200 army to dwindle a bit the deathball, remax and finish it off in the second round. So, all in all, letting that third go up so easily costed Mondragon so much
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3450
*waits patiently for a comment from IdrA*

.. That game deserves one!
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3451
Mondragon should've 6pooled him! It would have worked perfectly on old shakuras =_=
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3452
Mondragon still got this. <3
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3453
Spoiler for next match: Protoss wins.

User was temp banned for this post.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3454
On April 18 2011 05:18 travis wrote:
stop complaining people, jesus christ. not giving cruncher any credit at all... u don't realize how good his defensive play was. mondragon lost LOTS of units over and over. his play was amazing and great to watch but not all of it was that cost effective.


sadly they won't listen. but i feel just the same way. mondragons play is risky and agressive and he can _make_ it work but cruncher defended very well.
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3455
On April 18 2011 05:19 Aus.Force wrote:
too many roaches, not enough hydra's towards the end


Against collosus? oO
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
Tommie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
China658 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3456
Void ray Colossus smashes Zerg

Imagine what would have happened if Cruncher did not overextend himself by trying to get a useless fourth. He would have smashed Zerg a lot harder.


If you wanna fight the deathball head on there is only 1 option.
Get maxed on pure corruptor and remax on pure roach.
Im not even joking.

Being a ho doesn't automatically make you "immoral" or a bad person, but it does make you a ho.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3457
Old Shakuras really is protoss favoured in pvz imo as a protoss player. The new version is better because you cant just turtle on 3 bases.
I still think Mondi can win this series. He showed he has the skills.
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3458
On April 18 2011 05:17 Karthane wrote:
I really don't understand how someone can get THAT outplayed and still just a-move and win. fucking disgusting.

Yeah, disgusting is the word, but don't worry, the game is still young, Blizzard will surely adress this. Bill Roper, please come back for HotS!!!

User was temp banned for this post.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3459
This series and Boxer vs Sen yesterday have been so sick. Best weekend for TSL so far.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3460
On April 18 2011 05:19 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:17 Fist wrote:
Why the fuck is everyone acting like Cruncher is the only Protoss who is going for a deathball?


Well, cruncher pvz on sharukas is so obviously abusive so he get most of the hate about that. :p

That's why blizzard change the map, since everyone still use the old imbalance old sharukas.

People are complaining about the deathball because he's only won public PvZs with either 6 gate, or that.
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